--- Log opened Thu Jul 01 00:00:11 2010 2010-07-01 02:25:20 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-131-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-01 02:29:53 -!- rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-156-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-01 03:19:53 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.158.18] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-01 05:50:49 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.158.18] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-01 06:00:06 -!- ddalton (Unknown) [~ddalton@124-168-113-106.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-01 06:00:29 < ddalton> hey guys, how can I make my current usb version of debian live persistant over reboot? 2010-07-01 06:04:32 -!- Hohi (ah) [~ah@fw-linz.sbs.co.at] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-01 06:09:50 -!- ddalton [~ddalton@124-168-113-106.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-01 06:53:41 -!- plhardy (purple) [~philippe@92.103.174.253] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-01 07:21:35 < lindi-> by waiting more than 9 minutes :) 2010-07-01 07:30:43 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-01 07:33:46 < Kryczek> :) 2010-07-01 08:20:24 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-01 08:40:57 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.158.18] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2010-07-01 08:42:17 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-131-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-01 09:19:16 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-131-054.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-01 09:31:47 -!- juliank (Julian Andres Klode) [~juliank@p5B2523D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-01 10:00:18 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-01 10:07:53 -!- juliank [~juliank@p5B2523D5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-01 10:49:49 < hendry> two stupid problems 2010-07-01 10:49:59 < hendry> new extlinux isn't booting my LVM based X61 2010-07-01 10:50:20 < hendry> i would repair it with Webconverger, but the lenny intel driver seems b0rked 2010-07-01 10:55:16 < hendry> i need a rescue CD to be able to boot into my LVM partitions 2010-07-01 10:55:24 < hendry> or rather USB image 2010-07-01 10:55:28 < hendry> any recommendations? 2010-07-01 10:55:39 < hendry> I know Ubuntu has some sort of repair option 2010-07-01 11:07:21 < SynrG> no idea. ive never done anything with lvm 2010-07-01 11:08:16 < SynrG> there are squeeze debian live images kicking around aren't there? 2010-07-01 11:08:30 < SynrG> presumably they support lvm ... 2010-07-01 11:09:36 < SynrG> these are a bit old, but may work: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/squeeze_live_alpha1/ 2010-07-01 11:13:42 < lamby> d-i can do it 2010-07-01 11:17:06 < SynrG> ah, that too 2010-07-01 11:17:10 < SynrG> smaller download too 2010-07-01 11:30:31 -!- Hohi [~ah@fw-linz.sbs.co.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-01 11:45:13 < SynrG> huh why is there no try-usb in my config? 2010-07-01 11:45:36 < SynrG> using binary-hybrid 2010-07-01 11:46:12 < hendry> giving d-i a try lamby & SynrG 2010-07-01 11:47:01 < SynrG> er, iso-hybrid i mean 2010-07-01 11:47:49 < SynrG> falling back to usb-hdd for now, then 2010-07-01 11:50:12 < hendry> argh, Boot error on my x61 2010-07-01 11:50:22 < hendry> seen this before on d-i 2010-07-01 11:50:40 < hendry> grrr, can't remember the workaround off the top of my head 2010-07-01 11:50:58 < SynrG> dba: does iso-hybrid just not work with the installer when booting from usb? 2010-07-01 11:51:22 < hendry> ffs rescue is 519M :( 2010-07-01 11:52:13 < SynrG> dba: that's been my experience anyway. the cdrom-detect/try-usb=true isn't added to the config 2010-07-01 11:54:43 < dba> SynrG: that's what i said last time, yes. 2010-07-01 11:54:49 < SynrG> oh, ok. 2010-07-01 11:54:52 < dba> SynrG: cdrom-detetct needs update. 2010-07-01 11:54:54 < SynrG> duh. somehow i missed that 2010-07-01 11:55:18 < SynrG> so this is short-term enough not to warrant adding a warning message or some such? 2010-07-01 11:59:27 < SynrG> dba: in the case of drivers with non-free firmware, what do you think is the best way for a project like debian-eeepc to proceed. build an image with main only and provide instructions and/or script to update the image after the fact with necessary firmware file? if so, is that a fairly easy process, or hard? 2010-07-01 11:59:51 < SynrG> keeping in mind i want to support this both for live & install 2010-07-01 12:05:00 < lindi-> dba: btw, is it possible to generate images, that have "deb http://ftp.fi.debian.org/debian sid main" in sources.list using the web interface? It seems to be hardcoded to localhost 2010-07-01 12:09:33 < dba> hendry: your picture is not helpful. 2010-07-01 12:09:49 < dba> hendry: you only show the (outdated) version, but don't tell what fs you use. 2010-07-01 12:11:52 < hendry> dba: i'm using ext4 with LVM IIRC 2010-07-01 12:12:25 < hendry> i'm going to try boot USB with debian-live-60alpha1-i386-standard.iso and see if I can reflash extlinux? 2010-07-01 12:12:39 < hendry> tbh wish i didn't choose LVM 2010-07-01 12:12:48 < hendry> but I'm getting a new computer soon :D 2010-07-01 12:14:58 < dba> hendry: and why are you using syslinux 3.83 for that? 2010-07-01 12:15:18 < dba> hendry: only syslinux >= 2:4.00~ supports ext4. 2010-07-01 12:15:39 < dba> (even for syslinux 3.x, 3.83 is very, very old) 2010-07-01 12:16:00 < hendry> blast, not sure what happened 2010-07-01 12:16:48 < dba> i suggest you do install extlinux 4.00+dfsg-1, and read /usr/share/doc/extlinux/README.Debian. 2010-07-01 12:16:57 < dba> it tells you everything you'd need to do. 2010-07-01 12:18:35 < hendry> ok, i hope that's possible ontop of debian-live-60alpha1-i386-standard.iso 2010-07-01 12:18:39 < hendry> lets give it a try 2010-07-01 12:20:25 < SynrG> dba: bleah. even with usb-hdd it fails in the same way as before. /proc/cmdline confirms cdrom-detect/try-usb=true is there but ... 2010-07-01 12:21:06 < SynrG> dba: it still tells me it fails to find a CD-ROM, then prompts to manually select one. i have to tell it 'no', then select driver 'none', then specify the usb device (e.g. /dev/sdb1) 2010-07-01 12:21:54 < SynrG> dba: this is using live-helper from sid-snapshots, squeeze + -r live.debian.net, and daily installer 2010-07-01 12:23:18 < hendry> SynrG: btw are you attending debconf? 2010-07-01 12:23:26 < hendry> lamby: btw are you attending debconf? 2010-07-01 12:23:43 < lamby> yes 2010-07-01 12:23:50 < hendry> lamby: cool :) 2010-07-01 12:24:21 < dba> hendry: and there's no lvm support yet anyway 2010-07-01 12:24:43 < dba> hendry: it was postponed for after 4.00 release, and supposedly to be added quite easily. 2010-07-01 12:25:03 < dba> lamby: nice, including debcamp 2010-07-01 12:25:04 < dba> ? 2010-07-01 12:25:19 < hendry> dba: oh, no lvm? so what bootloader should I use? grub? 2010-07-01 12:26:07 < lamby> dba: Yap, a bit of it. :) Can finally get stuck back into Debian stuff.. 2010-07-01 12:26:21 < SynrG> hendry: yup! 2010-07-01 12:26:54 < hendry> SynrG: cool :) 2010-07-01 12:30:31 < hendry> trying to figure out now how to install grub 1.98 on /dev/sda which is simply ext+lvm 2010-07-01 12:30:48 < mikap> does building isos based on sid work for you? is it just a problem with apt-utils/apt-file/... that aptitude/apt-get breaks? 2010-07-01 12:31:24 < dba> lamby: yay! 2010-07-01 12:31:26 < hendry> crap, i think i accidentally install grub2 2010-07-01 12:31:37 < SynrG> dba: so do i bug #debian-boot about this issue? 2010-07-01 12:31:38 < hendry> i hate grub2 2010-07-01 12:31:55 < lamby> dba: What about you? 2010-07-01 12:32:12 < dba> hendry: for the moment, until syslinux has lvm support in some time, you should stick with grub2, yes. 2010-07-01 12:32:25 < dba> lamby: full debcamp+debconf. 2010-07-01 12:32:53 < dba> hendry: i too don't like it, but so do i with lvm :) 2010-07-01 12:33:00 < hendry> grub2 isn't allowing a cross-disk install. grub-probe fails and it moans my filesystem does not support UUIDs. erf. 2010-07-01 12:33:14 < dba> SynrG: on iso-hybrid images (if you don't use --debian-installer live), then 2010-07-01 12:33:46 < dba> SynrG: it's no different than 'normal' d-i, so #d-b is the appropriate place 2010-07-01 12:34:16 < dba> SynrG: and hopefully, they'll fix it soon, otherwise they're not ready for isohybrid images with squeeze, which would be a shame. 2010-07-01 12:34:35 < dba> SynrG: and yes.. i should do my test image with a hacked cdrom-detect that supposedly fixes this, 2010-07-01 12:34:56 < dba> but so far, still, i don't have a local mirror here, so building images is almost impossible :( 2010-07-01 12:35:07 < SynrG> i'm not using iso-hybrid for this test 2010-07-01 12:35:10 < SynrG> it fails with usb-hdd 2010-07-01 12:35:14 < dba> same thing 2010-07-01 12:35:23 < SynrG> bleah 2010-07-01 12:36:24 < SynrG> where almost impossible == takes a long time? how much crap needs to be downloaded to build a hacked cdrom-detect? 2010-07-01 12:41:13 * hendry regrets installing lvm big time 2010-07-01 12:41:26 < hendry> can't seem to get my lvm partitions mounted. urgh 2010-07-01 12:44:54 < dba> SynrG: well, building a standard image from scratch takes about an hour for the first time, and about half an hour for builds using caches. this makes iterative things very painfull. 2010-07-01 12:45:16 < dba> SynrG: at home, i do builds in 3 minutes, and iteratives in about 2 or so. 2010-07-01 12:45:28 < dba> also testing doesn't require me writing it to an usb stick first. 2010-07-01 12:45:51 < SynrG> well, if you need me to test ... i just need to know what to do. i have plenty of disk space and local access 2010-07-01 12:46:11 < SynrG> but i'm headed out to play with family for a bit (Canada Day today, national holiday) 2010-07-01 12:46:26 < SynrG> back a bit later to continue 2010-07-01 12:48:08 < dba> have fun ;) 2010-07-01 12:54:51 < CIA-11> daniel * re15140d wiki-content/project/status.mdwn: Adding note about aufs and kernels in experimental on project status page. 2010-07-01 13:07:49 < SynrG> dba: back. so where is this hacked cdrom-detect of which you speak? 2010-07-01 13:12:13 < dba> i can upload it later to live.debian.net/other or so 2010-07-01 13:24:46 < SynrG> ok 2010-07-01 13:31:49 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-01 13:31:55 -!- plhardy [~philippe@92.103.174.253] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-01 13:33:19 -!- plhardy (purple) [~philippe@217.108.116.29] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-01 13:38:22 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-01 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SynrG: just checking.. any news about gdm/slim/$whatever wrt/ lxde meta package? 2010-07-02 13:31:27 -!- rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-139-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-02 13:32:15 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-139-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-02 13:53:39 -!- juliank [~juliank@p5B252703.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-02 14:09:25 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-02 14:51:49 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-02 15:01:47 -!- AmberJ [amberj@support.team.at.shellium.org] has quit [Quit: brb] 2010-07-02 15:02:32 -!- AmberJ (Amber Jain) [amberj@support.team.at.shellium.org] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-02 15:54:12 < SynrG> dba: bremner pointed out slim has some security issues. one, at least, that affects squeeze/sid. insecure /tmp type thing 2010-07-02 15:55:54 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live-helper/helpers/binary_virtual-hdd: Fix virtual-hdd packing only the stuff inside the binary/ tree in the image in binary_virtual-hdd. 2010-07-02 16:24:04 < CIA-11> asac debian * rb07272a live-helper/helpers/binary_linux-image: Fix linux-image generation for no initramfs images. 2010-07-02 16:24:04 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r3d3bd68 live-helper/helpers/binary_rootfs: Adding slightly modified patch from Alexander Sack to add meta info about filesystem size in binary_rootfs. 2010-07-02 16:24:05 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r1b642e1 live-helper/lists/lxde: Going back to using gdm for lxde as this is what the lxde meta package recommends. 2010-07-02 16:24:07 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r9ca9ca1 live-helper/manpages/ (320 files in 4 dirs): Correcting entry about --language in lh_config manpage, it doesn't set the bootparameters automatically for locale selection. 2010-07-02 16:24:10 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rd70dc3b live-helper/ (322 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a17-1. 2010-07-02 16:24:33 < lindi-> dba: standard-x11 + gnome uses wrong driver for samsung ml-1610 by default. installing splix makes it work. any idea what package I should file this bug against? I have no idea how the different GUI parts work 2010-07-02 16:24:44 < lindi-> dba: (it's a printer) 2010-07-02 16:25:23 < lindi-> I've done a lot of hardware / usability testing with testing live usb stick recently :) 2010-07-02 16:29:02 < dba> lindi-: well, the tasksel maintainers should tell if they want splix to be added to their desktop task 2010-07-02 16:29:22 < dba> (or their 'printing' related sub-tasks or whatever they categorize it) 2010-07-02 16:29:38 < dba> you can reach them through debian-desktop@lists.debian.org 2010-07-02 16:29:56 < dba> or, by submitting a bug report against tasksel should do it too i think. 2010-07-02 16:30:08 < lindi-> dba: I don't think we want to include all possible printer drivers. 2010-07-02 16:30:19 < lindi-> dba: the UI should inform the user that he needs to install splix to be able to print with this printer 2010-07-02 16:30:56 < dba> lindi-: then i don't see a bug 2010-07-02 16:31:14 < dba> lindi-: i'm not sure if that's the correct thing to do, 2010-07-02 16:31:27 < dba> maybe the driver that gets selected is supposed to support SPLIx printers, 2010-07-02 16:31:32 < lindi-> dba: why not? currently the only way to figure that out is to try blindly all drivers 2010-07-02 16:31:38 < dba> but isn't just as good as the splix one? 2010-07-02 16:31:52 < lindi-> dba: no, the one included in standard-x11+debian setup does not print at all 2010-07-02 16:31:57 < lindi-> that obviously is a bug 2010-07-02 16:32:10 < dba> anyway.. not my call. please do take it up with either one of tasksel maintainers (for including splix) or 2010-07-02 16:32:21 < lindi-> yes I understand this is not really a live issue 2010-07-02 16:32:22 < dba> cups maintainers (for adjusting autodetection in cups) 2010-07-02 16:51:10 -!- AmberJ [amberj@support.team.at.shellium.org] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-02 16:51:30 -!- AmberJ (Amber Jain) [amberj@support.team.at.shellium.org] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-02 16:57:26 -!- AmberJ [amberj@support.team.at.shellium.org] has quit [Quit: brb] 2010-07-02 17:00:13 -!- AmberJ (Amber Jain) [amberj@support.team.at.shellium.org] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-02 17:04:56 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-02 17:20:02 -!- coruja [coruja@coruja.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-02 17:48:25 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host89-192-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-02 18:16:04 < BTS> live-helper 2.0~a17-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-helper 2010-07-02 19:05:15 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.134.67] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-02 19:10:38 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@187.132.134.67] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-02 19:26:44 -!- coruja (Markus Meyer) [coruja@coruja.info] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-02 20:29:15 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-02 21:16:34 -!- Igloo_ (Ian Lynagh) [ian@chaos.earth.li] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-02 21:18:35 -!- Igloo [ian@chaos.earth.li] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-02 21:36:13 -!- Igloo (Ian Lynagh) [ian@chaos.earth.li] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-02 21:38:12 -!- Igloo_ [ian@chaos.earth.li] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-02 21:38:48 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-02 21:45:37 -!- Igloo_ (Ian Lynagh) [ian@chaos.earth.li] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-02 21:47:37 -!- Igloo [ian@chaos.earth.li] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-02 21:52:29 -!- unixabg [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-02 22:39:15 -!- d0rt [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-02 23:49:58 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@187.132.134.67] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-02 23:54:00 -!- sirrus14 (sirrus) [~sirrus@p4FFD0B43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian-live --- Day changed Sat Jul 03 2010 2010-07-03 00:06:12 < zumbi> dba: if you fancy an arm cortex-a8+NEON board, let me know 2010-07-03 00:10:19 < dba> zumbi: you have one? 2010-07-03 00:10:25 < dba> one spare i mean. 2010-07-03 00:10:29 < zumbi> dba: for you, yes 2010-07-03 00:10:33 < dba> zumbi: how much? 2010-07-03 00:10:46 < zumbi> uhm.. free 2010-07-03 00:11:23 < dba> wow, great.. i was looking for one the other day, but didn't found some below 200usd 2010-07-03 00:11:34 < zumbi> dba: I got an offering from a company, they are asking me names to give away boards 2010-07-03 00:11:50 < dba> (and the new beagle board will only be shipped beginning 2011) 2010-07-03 00:12:10 < zumbi> dba: the only thing you need to do is sign up at powerdeveloper.org site and wait (are you coming to DC this year?) 2010-07-03 00:12:13 < dba> zumbi: well, i would love to offer arm debian-live images for squeeze. 2010-07-03 00:12:26 < zumbi> dba: great! 2010-07-03 00:12:32 < dba> zumbi: yes, i'm at debcamp and debconf. 2010-07-03 00:13:17 < zumbi> i'll be only DC, but great! I talked to ralph and he wanted to take me for a tour at his house, maybe you want to join :) 2010-07-03 00:13:45 < dba> zumbi: i'm at his house right now :) 2010-07-03 00:13:59 < dba> or rather.. sitting on his couch 2010-07-03 00:14:15 < zumbi> really?! greetings from my side 2010-07-03 00:14:32 < zumbi> oh! wow! that is so nice :) 2010-07-03 00:14:57 < dba> zumbi: told him; he's thanking and returning greetings 2010-07-03 00:15:11 < dba> zumbi: i've registered, what else do you want me to do? 2010-07-03 00:15:37 < zumbi> dba: not much, just wait, I'll give them your contact if you are ok 2010-07-03 00:15:52 < dba> zumbi: sure. accountname is 'Daniel Baumann'. 2010-07-03 00:16:02 < zumbi> perfect! 2010-07-03 00:16:28 < dba> thanks so much, you definitely made my day ;) 2010-07-03 00:16:45 < dba> .oO(and now off for dinner.. brb) 2010-07-03 00:16:48 < zumbi> no problem, thanks to you 2010-07-03 00:17:01 < zumbi> dba: i had one more thing I wanted to discuss 2010-07-03 00:17:45 < zumbi> I might be working/testing logfs, not sure if you have or will have a packaged version of logfs utils 2010-07-03 00:18:09 < zumbi> but if you like I could take that package 2010-07-03 00:19:00 < zumbi> but, you can have a thought, I am not sure what your plans are regarding logfs utils 2010-07-03 00:19:11 < zumbi> see you :) 2010-07-03 00:41:13 -!- sirrus14 [~sirrus@p4FFD0B43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-03 00:42:20 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 01:08:37 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host89-192-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-03 01:37:31 < dba> zumbi: logfs-tools was uploaded long time ago, it's stuck in NEW. 2010-07-03 01:37:52 < dba> zumbi: debacle was added as co-maintainer recently. 2010-07-03 01:38:31 < dba> zumbi: git tree is at git://git.debian-maintainers.org/git/daniel/logfs-tools.git 2010-07-03 02:02:38 < CIA-11> daniel * r7185c72 wiki-content/devel/live-helper/todo.mdwn: Adding note about usb-zip and usb-gpt support on live-helper todo page. 2010-07-03 02:23:17 -!- rhaeder1 (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-159-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 02:29:17 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-139-022.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-03 06:21:33 -!- rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-159-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-03 07:33:34 -!- sirrus14 (sirrus) [~sirrus@p4FFD0B43.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 08:10:16 -!- sirrus14 [~sirrus@p4FFD0B43.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-03 10:59:54 < zumbi> dba: great! thanks, then I'll use bts if i have any stuff to complain about. :) 2010-07-03 11:08:32 < dba> zumbi: sure 2010-07-03 11:09:04 < dba> zumbi: and feel free to send git patches to merge.. :) 2010-07-03 11:09:23 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host89-192-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 11:09:32 < zumbi> dba: of course 2010-07-03 11:25:28 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-159-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 11:42:48 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-159-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-03 12:28:56 -!- AmberJ [amberj@support.team.at.shellium.org] has quit [Quit: brb] 2010-07-03 12:29:28 -!- AmberJ (Amber Jain) [amberj@support.team.at.shellium.org] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 13:11:43 < unixabg> dba, if you can paste an example of the format you want for stats on l-h.cgi I will try to work on that.\ 2010-07-03 13:11:51 < unixabg> or a link 2010-07-03 13:12:12 < unixabg> I can put that in with the logic around success or fail I believe 2010-07-03 16:32:55 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-159-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 16:35:59 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host89-192-dynamic.20-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-03 16:47:46 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 17:37:48 < mikap> dba: what are you going to about #573189 for squeeze? is there a solution/workaround for you? 2010-07-03 18:03:10 < dba> mikap: nothing. squeeze has 2.6.32. 2010-07-03 18:04:21 < mikap> dba: and squeeze provides aufs with 2.6.32? 2010-07-03 18:06:52 < dba> mikap: yes. 2010-07-03 18:15:53 < mikap> dba: great, providing it through a -source/dkms package? 2010-07-03 18:17:36 < dba> mikap: i'll intend to re-upload aufs for post-squeeze, yes. probably during debcamp. 2010-07-03 18:17:53 < mikap> dba: post-squeeze? 2010-07-03 18:18:41 < dba> for the debian release after squeeze. 2010-07-03 18:19:13 < mikap> dba: what i don't know yet: does squeeze provide aufs a) out-of-the-box, b) as external module you've to compile on your own using -source and m-a or c) it's provided as separate package through official debian repos 2010-07-03 18:19:58 < dba> have you ever either read that bug report or considered doing a 'find /lib/modules -name "*aufs*"'? 2010-07-03 18:20:06 < dba> squeeze has aufs in mainline. 2010-07-03 18:22:02 < mikap> dba: ah, so it's being dropped for >2.6.32? ok 2010-07-03 18:22:09 < dba> we don't know yet. 2010-07-03 18:22:24 < dba> see #573189. 2010-07-03 18:22:34 < mikap> yeah, benh and maks won't support it 2010-07-03 18:35:41 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@c-66-30-141-145.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 18:47:00 -!- d0rt [~ni@c-66-30-141-145.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-03 18:47:26 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r4256e2d live-boot/ (hooks/live scripts/live): Adding initial for memdisk support, part 1. 2010-07-03 18:48:48 < CIA-11> unixabg debian * rc406b1e live-manual/manual/en/other/use-cases.xml: Added VMWare-Player use-case and minor cleanup on vnc-kiosk. 2010-07-03 18:49:26 < unixabg> dba, that push although I could not do make tidy should be ok. You may want to pull and test. 2010-07-03 19:10:39 < unixabg> dba, on the log part for stats something like: [date] [maybe-failed|maybe-successful] [client IP] (not sure after here) 2010-07-03 19:11:11 < dba> unixabg: it should be identical to apache 2010-07-03 19:12:40 < dba> 69.120.36.226 - - [28/Jun/2010:00:19:04 +0000] "GET /dists/sid-snapshots/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 HTTP/1.1" 304 - "-" "Debian APT-HTTP/1.3 (0.7.25.3) 2010-07-03 19:12:50 < dba> so.. for the cgi, something like 2010-07-03 19:13:45 < unixabg> dba, ok I looked at error.log 2010-07-03 19:13:52 < unixabg> not access.log 2010-07-03 19:13:53 < dba> IP - - [DATE] "BUILD $architecture/$distribution/$whatever..." 404 - "-" "$whatever 2010-07-03 19:13:59 < dba> for failed builds 2010-07-03 19:14:00 < dba> and 2010-07-03 19:14:09 < dba> IP - - [DATE] "BUILD $architecture/$distribution/$whatever..." 200 - "-" "$whatever 2010-07-03 19:14:13 < dba> for successful builds 2010-07-03 19:14:32 < unixabg> Ok 2010-07-03 19:14:50 < unixabg> What do you want to name the log file? 2010-07-03 19:15:19 < dba> don't know.. /var/log/live/cgi.log or something like that? 2010-07-03 19:52:42 -!- jstein (Jonas Stein) [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-227-178.netcologne.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 20:25:15 -!- niktaris (Nick Niktaris) [~niktaris@178-21-147.dynamic.cyta.gr] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 20:36:45 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@c-66-30-141-145.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 20:45:48 -!- d0rt [~ni@c-66-30-141-145.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-03 22:19:09 -!- jstein_ (Jonas Stein) [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-249-27.netcologne.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 22:20:24 -!- jstein [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-227-178.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-03 22:23:28 -!- jstein_ [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-249-27.netcologne.de] has quit [] 2010-07-03 22:28:59 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-03 22:29:17 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 22:50:39 -!- unixabg_ (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-03 22:50:39 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-03 23:28:36 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Day changed Sun Jul 04 2010 2010-07-04 00:14:18 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@c-66-30-141-145.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 00:23:20 -!- d0rt [~ni@c-66-30-141-145.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-04 02:32:57 -!- unixabg_ [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-04 02:33:09 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 02:35:58 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.134.67] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 03:18:57 < CIA-11> unixabg debian-next * r0281192 live-helper/cgi/cgi: Added REMOTE_ADDR to l-h.cgi log file. 2010-07-04 03:56:09 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-04 03:56:28 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 04:32:45 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-159-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-04 06:48:46 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@187.132.134.67] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2010-07-04 09:04:05 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 10:28:45 -!- mib_v8cpwj (227.246.broadband13.iol.cz) [5ab4f6e3@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 10:45:41 -!- mib_v8cpwj [5ab4f6e3@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 2010-07-04 10:58:04 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-159-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 14:22:02 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@c-66-30-141-145.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 14:31:47 -!- d0rt [~ni@c-66-30-141-145.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-04 15:59:11 -!- jstein (Jonas Stein) [~jstein3@cip1.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 16:02:29 < jstein> i use this line to configure an image for net boot. but i get no binary. http://paste.debian.net/79595/ Any ideas, what could be wrong? It is part of a large configuration that worked until few months ago. 2010-07-04 16:03:57 < dba> which version of live-helper are you using? 2010-07-04 16:04:10 < jstein> the one from testing... mom 2010-07-04 16:04:28 < jstein> lh --version lh, version 2.0~a14-1 2010-07-04 16:04:35 < dba> do s/enabled/true/g and s/disabled/false/g 2010-07-04 16:04:43 < jstein> ok 2010-07-04 16:09:28 < jstein> dba, i still dont get a binary.* 2010-07-04 16:13:28 < CIA-11> unixabg debian-next * r61cfa06 live-helper/cgi/cron: Added logging features to l-h.cgi cron. 2010-07-04 16:14:08 < dba> jstein: as usual, there's no help possible, you'll need to give the required information, 2010-07-04 16:14:31 < dba> jstein: see http://live.debian.net/manual/en/html/bugs.html for more information. 2010-07-04 17:32:49 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-04 17:33:03 < jstein> dba here i collect all information to reproduce the problem: http://paste.debian.net/79610/ 2010-07-04 17:33:09 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 18:46:51 -!- jstein [~jstein3@cip1.ph-cip.uni-koeln.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2010-07-04 18:58:34 -!- franklin_ (Franklin PIAT) [~fpiat@klabs.be] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 19:05:33 -!- franklin [~fpiat@klabs.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-04 20:40:19 -!- sirrus14 (sirrus) [~sirrus@p4FFD21CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 20:49:39 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-04 20:49:58 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 20:52:10 -!- sirrus14 [~sirrus@p4FFD21CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Quit: Nettalk6 - www.ntalk.de] 2010-07-04 21:19:35 -!- sirrus14 (sirrus) [~sirrus@p4FFD21CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 21:21:16 -!- sirrus14 [~sirrus@p4FFD21CC.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 2010-07-04 22:27:15 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.137.66] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-04 22:38:22 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] --- Day changed Mon Jul 05 2010 2010-07-05 00:23:17 -!- niktaris_ (Nick Niktaris) [~niktaris@178-13-125.dynamic.cyta.gr] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 00:28:57 -!- niktaris [~niktaris@178-21-147.dynamic.cyta.gr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-05 02:24:39 -!- rhaeder1 (purple) [~quix0r@188.109.250.165] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 02:29:08 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-159-240.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-05 02:52:46 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 03:09:25 -!- twb (Trent W. Buck) [~twb@ppp118-209-35-11.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 03:09:45 < twb> Is it possible to have multiple kernels configured in a single live-helper image? 2010-07-05 03:10:16 < twb> I'd like to have both the stock squeeze kernel and a couple I've placed in config/chroot_local-packages 2010-07-05 03:35:53 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-05 03:39:05 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 03:39:46 < CIA-11> unixabg debian-next * r099646b live-helper/cgi/cron: Matching logging date format to apache to use log analyzers on l-h.cgi builds. 2010-07-05 03:40:50 < unixabg> dba, I have matched to apache on logs and tested and pushed. On next release I will update l-h.d.n and run with webalizer. 2010-07-05 03:47:06 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-05 03:47:44 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 03:59:28 < twb> Why is "lh bootstrap" trying (and failing!) to mount chroot/proc ? 2010-07-05 04:00:23 < twb> This is with a git clone of just now, using "sudo lh local bootstrap" 2010-07-05 04:14:58 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-05 04:22:16 < unixabg> twb, I do not use sudo but if you sudo su then try the command does it still fail? 2010-07-05 04:23:02 < unixabg> twb, are you using branch debian-next or debian? 2010-07-05 04:24:45 < twb> I'm using whatever is the default branch, I suppose 2010-07-05 04:25:09 < twb> It's true that until now I've been using sudo -i and running live-helper directly as root 2010-07-05 04:25:36 < twb> (But the last build I did was a month ago and I lost its config, and I was running sid's lh, so a lot of other stuff has changed, too.) 2010-07-05 04:26:46 < twb> I'm trying "lh local bootstrap" again, as root (i.e. sudo -i). It'll take a few minutes to step through the bootstrap 2010-07-05 04:27:19 < twb> Note that immediately after the failure of lh, I *can* run the command it failed to run, and it succeeds. 2010-07-05 04:32:21 < unixabg> twb, hmm. Are you running in X? 2010-07-05 04:32:33 < unixabg> Like gnome or kde environment? 2010-07-05 04:32:39 < twb> No. 2010-07-05 04:33:03 < unixabg> twb, so you are running in console mode 2010-07-05 04:33:27 < twb> I'm in bash, in screen, in a framebuffer console. X is not running. 2010-07-05 04:33:53 < twb> The host OS is sid and I'm attempting to build LH_DISTRIBUTION=testing. 2010-07-05 04:34:33 < unixabg> twb, can you share you config call? 2010-07-05 04:34:58 < twb> I don't call lh config at all. I have a single file, config/common, which I shall pastebin. 2010-07-05 04:35:10 < unixabg> twb, also have you tried lenny or sid? 2010-07-05 04:35:36 < twb> (I realize that's an unusual way to do it, but I hate the auto/ style and I hate the how "lh config" expands my variables.) 2010-07-05 04:35:50 < twb> http://pastebin.com/kfrn62SZ 2010-07-05 04:36:20 < twb> The behaviour is the same with sudo -i. 2010-07-05 04:37:34 < twb> According to "git branch", I have only the "debian" branch. 2010-07-05 04:37:57 < unixabg> twb, I understand, but may I ask that you consider an ./auto/config file? 2010-07-05 04:38:23 < twb> I can do so temporarily, but I am not amenable to that as a permanent thing. 2010-07-05 04:38:28 < unixabg> twb, please know it may have nothing to do with the error you encounter. But it is the way I would recommend 2010-07-05 04:38:42 < unixabg> twb, may I ask why? 2010-07-05 04:39:01 < twb> Because it's fugly. 2010-07-05 04:39:16 < twb> Why should I write a script to call a script to write config files that are, in fact, scripts? 2010-07-05 04:40:06 < unixabg> twb, lol. Ok. Well I think in general it is an easy way to reproduce errors by a common usage of lh config 2010-07-05 04:40:22 < twb> I'd much prefer a debhelper-style configuration, where you have a single imperative script that is, by default, a couple of lines long, and every other config file is purely declarative. 2010-07-05 04:40:35 < unixabg> twb, please know that I understand your position. 2010-07-05 04:40:39 < twb> OK. 2010-07-05 04:41:37 < twb> I actually suspect it has something to do with "lh local" 2010-07-05 04:41:56 < twb> Since AFAICT the bootstrap helpers never do anything related to /proc except to tar --exclude it. 2010-07-05 04:41:58 < unixabg> twb, dba would have to comment on the topic, but as I recall the main issue was a way to allow users to create custom configs in a way that would move between releases and I do know that the variables can change a bit (or their param values). 2010-07-05 04:42:29 < unixabg> twb, do you have anything like FAM running? 2010-07-05 04:42:48 < twb> Neither fam nor gamin are installed in the host or the guest 2010-07-05 04:43:07 < unixabg> twb, could you humor me and try a lenny build? 2010-07-05 04:43:30 < unixabg> s/build/setup/ 2010-07-05 04:43:37 < unixabg> or sid 2010-07-05 04:43:40 < twb> Given that config/* is *actually* imperative, and can contain arbitrarily fugly evil things, I'd have said the right way to allow users to create release-independent config was for them to put the scripts in config/*, not to make a whole additional layer of imperative config scripts 2010-07-05 04:43:43 < twb> Sure. 2010-07-05 04:44:30 < unixabg> twb, I ask since I am running debian-next and I just built a bunch of lenny images 2010-07-05 04:44:30 < twb> I'll do an lh clean --purge in between, so it'll take a little longer 2010-07-05 04:45:05 < unixabg> twb, I am on a quota connection or I would just test here. 2010-07-05 04:45:16 < unixabg> mom and let me see if I mirror testing 2010-07-05 04:45:53 < unixabg> Ok I have local mirror of testing 2010-07-05 04:46:22 < twb> I'm not married to testing. 2010-07-05 04:46:39 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-05 04:47:00 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 04:47:25 < unixabg> hmm my connection is very bad 2010-07-05 04:48:30 < unixabg> twb, I have not looked through code to see the precedence of sourcing in common. Have you and if so is it in the correct way to act nice? 2010-07-05 04:48:51 < unixabg> I am offline for about 6hrs in 14min 2010-07-05 04:50:07 < twb> Sorry, I don't understand the question. 2010-07-05 04:52:23 < twb> Same behaviour if I set LH_DISTRIBUTION to lenny. 2010-07-05 04:52:40 < twb> Good idea, though; I added "set -u" to the top, and found that of course $HOSTNAME isn't set because this is sh, not bash. 2010-07-05 04:54:07 < unixabg> So I am off in a bit, can you move to the short term to ./auto/config and reproduce. If it works there you will have to take up with dba tomorrow. 2010-07-05 04:54:31 < twb> I *can't* reproduce it with the same files, but with sid's live-helper. 2010-07-05 04:54:42 < twb> (I'm still porting config/common to auto/config format) 2010-07-05 04:55:09 < twb> I should confirm that I'm using "lh local" as intended... 2010-07-05 04:57:58 < unixabg> twb, yes I understand. I do not love nor do I hate ./auto but it meets a need and it does work. So I think dialog about ./config/common is ok as well. Again as I recall the reason for ./auto was a means to keep lh calls the same while param options can move. 2010-07-05 04:58:43 < unixabg> twb, if you port and reproduce then we can nail down tomorrow. 2010-07-05 04:58:56 < twb> Erm, I've already demonstrated that config/common doesn't affect it. 2010-07-05 04:59:14 < twb> Because using git lh, the problem is there, and with sid lh, the problem is gone. Both times with config/common. 2010-07-05 04:59:46 < unixabg> twb, ok. Let me make install git 2010-07-05 05:00:03 < unixabg> twb, late for me so last thing I do tonight. 2010-07-05 05:00:06 < twb> OK. 2010-07-05 05:00:21 < twb> Note I was using "lh local" rather than installing git's version 2010-07-05 05:00:43 < twb> And the debian branch (not debian-next). 2010-07-05 05:01:48 < twb> Hum, odd that there's no shift in helpers/local... 2010-07-05 05:02:27 < twb> Oh, I see. I'm supposed to call live-helper/helpers/local directly, NOT live-helper/helpers/lh local. 2010-07-05 05:02:42 < twb> Lemme try again with git using that approach. 2010-07-05 05:05:16 -!- zumbi_ (Hector Oron) [~zumbi@77.230.237.25] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 05:05:39 -!- blathijs_ [~matthijs@drsnuggles.stderr.nl] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 05:05:39 -!- mikap_ [~mika@mail.michael-prokop.at] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 05:05:41 -!- blathijs_ is Matthijs Kooijman 2010-07-05 05:05:54 < unixabg> twb, I just did a lh config -m http://localhost --apt-recommends false 2010-07-05 05:06:02 < unixabg> now testing lh bootstrap 2010-07-05 05:06:07 -!- Netsplit charon.oftc.net <-> galapagos.oftc.net quits: mikap, blathijs, zumbi 2010-07-05 05:06:14 -!- mikap_ is now known as mikap 2010-07-05 05:07:01 < unixabg> twb, on tomorrows time. But l-h support is worth it. I will give myself an extra cup of coffee today after I wake up. :) 2010-07-05 05:07:37 < unixabg> twb, the lh bootstrap works here. 2010-07-05 05:07:46 < unixabg> I am running sid on my notebook 2010-07-05 05:07:57 < unixabg> Ok I am off till later today. 2010-07-05 05:14:50 < twb> Bye 2010-07-05 05:21:06 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-05 05:21:23 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 06:37:11 -!- Hohi (ah) [~ah@fw-linz.sbs.co.at] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 07:11:41 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 07:12:25 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-05 07:23:02 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-05 07:23:20 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 07:29:39 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 07:37:26 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@187.132.137.66] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-05 07:54:27 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-05 09:04:00 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 09:07:25 -!- twb [~twb@ppp118-209-35-11.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-05 10:18:50 -!- Kasreyn (Harman Smith) [~i@h59ec10dc.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 10:19:04 < Kasreyn> hi :) 2010-07-05 10:21:22 < Kasreyn> does anyone have a better wiki for snapshots than this? -> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/Persistence 2010-07-05 10:23:01 < Kasreyn> i've labeled my partition "live-sn", start with "persistent" kernel option, and it just empties the file, never restores a thing 2010-07-05 10:24:02 < Kasreyn> so i copy in a 22MB "live-sn.cpio.gz", reboot and it's just a couple of KBs 2010-07-05 10:28:39 < SynrG> mornin 2010-07-05 10:29:31 < SynrG> either the file is called live-sn or the partition is called live-sn not both 2010-07-05 10:29:45 < Kasreyn> ok i suspected as much 2010-07-05 10:30:54 < Kasreyn> is there a guide for the official debian way of doing it on USB sticks? 2010-07-05 10:31:56 < SynrG> also the official doc is the manual not the wiki so that page really should be deleted. 2010-07-05 10:31:59 < SynrG> i haven't looked at it recently (and have no easy way to do so, as i am composing my replies to you offline on the bus) but if i recall correctly 2010-07-05 10:32:02 < SynrG> it's nothing more than some hastily scribbled notes 2010-07-05 10:32:07 < SynrG> and not really a proper howto 2010-07-05 10:32:25 < SynrG> live.debian.net links to the manual 2010-07-05 10:32:52 < SynrG> not sure if the manual is detailed enough. 2010-07-05 10:34:15 < Kasreyn> well thanks for the info SynrG. i'll keep looking 2010-07-05 10:38:17 < SynrG> but if you're following what's in the manual and yet it still doesn't work, why not post to the list and see if we can improve those instructions? 2010-07-05 10:42:21 < Kasreyn> well the manual does not say how exactly you should structure your partitions on a USB stick 2010-07-05 10:43:10 < SynrG> it ought to be as simple as booting with persistent and using live-snapshot with an appropriate destination to take a new snapshot, but i never got this to work properly for me (though the last time i tried was many months ago and i think some fixes may have been made since then) 2010-07-05 10:43:16 < SynrG> so either the instructions aren't complete or there are still some bugs 2010-07-05 10:43:18 < SynrG> or, well, s/complete/idiot-proof/ :) 2010-07-05 10:43:23 < SynrG> yeah, that's what i thought 2010-07-05 10:48:43 < Kasreyn> ok i'm trying this on the stable iso from http://live.debian.net/ 2010-07-05 10:49:51 < Kasreyn> but the 60alpha1 is an iso hybrid 2010-07-05 10:50:23 < Kasreyn> if you dd that to a usb stick kernel thinks you plugged in a CDROM :) 2010-07-05 10:51:56 < SynrG> it shouldn't, actually 2010-07-05 10:52:36 < SynrG> so far as the bios is concerned at least, it's still a USB stick ... unless you have one with CDROM emulation 2010-07-05 10:53:45 < Kasreyn> no i mean, you dd the iso, then i want to create a partition for live-sn 2010-07-05 10:54:24 < Kasreyn> on the computer i dd:ed the iso it will register as a CDROM 2010-07-05 10:54:43 < Kasreyn> so i can't cfdisk it 2010-07-05 10:55:52 < Kasreyn> the stick works to boot from but mounts the entire stick /dev/sdb 2010-07-05 10:56:24 < Kasreyn> can't be umounted so you can't create live-sn partition from there either 2010-07-05 10:57:04 < SynrG> ah. that's an interesting problem. i don't know a workaround 2010-07-05 10:57:15 < Kasreyn> workaround i think is to use live-helper 2010-07-05 10:57:23 < Kasreyn> and roll your own 2010-07-05 10:57:26 < SynrG> but i referred you to live.debian.net for the manual, not necessarily the images 2010-07-05 10:57:47 < SynrG> yeah. but it sucks that you can't use the extra space on the stick with the default images. 2010-07-05 10:58:00 < Kasreyn> indeed :) 2010-07-05 10:58:07 < Kasreyn> it is an alpha though! 2010-07-05 10:59:49 < SynrG> an alternative, i suppose, might be to use the contents of the iso ... 2010-07-05 11:00:18 < SynrG> to create a bootable USB stick partitioned the way you want ... 2010-07-05 11:00:27 < Kasreyn> yes i could try that 2010-07-05 11:00:29 < SynrG> much the same way as d-i uses boot.img.gz + iso 2010-07-05 11:00:45 < SynrG> a la the install manual's "flexible" approach 2010-07-05 11:01:06 < SynrG> there may already be some notes in the wiki about doing it this way 2010-07-05 11:01:21 < SynrG> someone wrote some howto a long time ago ... 2010-07-05 11:01:43 < SynrG> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/Custom_Install 2010-07-05 11:01:49 < SynrG> this even mentions persistence 2010-07-05 11:01:52 < Kasreyn> thanks 2010-07-05 11:02:31 < SynrG> but again, the wiki is deprecated and the manual is the official doc ... 2010-07-05 11:02:42 < SynrG> if you find this doc useful, we need patches to the manual 2010-07-05 11:02:49 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-05 11:03:09 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 11:28:59 -!- Hohi [~ah@fw-linz.sbs.co.at] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-05 12:14:49 < CIA-11> daniel pristine-tar * r28a0db2 live-helper/ (2 files): Adding pristine-tar version 2.0~a17. 2010-07-05 12:14:53 < CIA-11> daniel upstream * re8c7524 live-helper/ (331 files in 10 dirs): Adding upstream version 2.0~a17. 2010-07-05 12:16:09 < SynrG> decided to splurge and get two model 1001PX eeepcs for Ariannah and me 2010-07-05 12:16:28 < SynrG> http://ncix.com/products/?sku=53069&vpn=1001PX-EU0X-BK&manufacture=ASUS 2010-07-05 12:17:03 < SynrG> at $313.50 CAD, a reasonably priced little system 2010-07-05 12:22:33 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-05 12:26:35 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r90b1e0d live-helper/lists/gnome: Adding ubuntu specifics for system-config-printer in gnome list, thanks to Philippe Lel??dy . 2010-07-05 12:29:23 < SynrG> should be reasonably ok as a test system for live images. 2x usb ports tho. bleah. but i can live without the mouse when i have two usb keys attached. that will only be for brief periods of time ... 2010-07-05 12:29:32 < SynrG> or else get a cheap mini usb hub 2010-07-05 12:31:33 < Kasreyn> i have found some new interesting things about live-sn. it only works the first time :/ 2010-07-05 12:32:42 < Kasreyn> i boot without "persistent" kernel option, use live-snapshot -d /dev/sdb2, reboot with "persistent", working! second time i reboot it's gone 2010-07-05 12:38:24 < Kasreyn> i mean, packages i install on the systems are gone after reboot 2010-07-05 12:39:26 < dba> Kasreyn: which version of live-initramfs are you using? 2010-07-05 12:39:46 < Kasreyn> how do i find out ? i use lenny 2010-07-05 12:39:48 < dba> the one in lenny has bugs wrt/ snapshots. 2010-07-05 12:39:53 < dba> ah, ok. 2010-07-05 12:39:54 < Kasreyn> hah 2010-07-05 12:40:00 < Kasreyn> that's the bug? 2010-07-05 12:40:08 < Kasreyn> is there a workaround? 2010-07-05 12:40:16 < dba> Kasreyn: use live-helper 2.x (the one from sid, can be installed on lenny just fine) 2010-07-05 12:40:25 < dba> and use 'lh config -r live.debian.net' 2010-07-05 12:40:44 < Kasreyn> ok i'm about to rebuild my live distro anyway 2010-07-05 12:40:54 < dba> then you'll get the bugfixed version (which, amonst other things, also boots about 30s faster) 2010-07-05 12:41:05 < Kasreyn> yes i want faster boot too :) 2010-07-05 12:41:58 < Kasreyn> well thanks for the tip! i've been working on this for a few days now 2010-07-05 12:43:19 < Kasreyn> no harm done i'm learning lots of new things 2010-07-05 12:51:55 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 13:09:00 -!- unixabg [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2010-07-05 13:09:25 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 13:22:10 < Kasreyn> using a new image built from live.debian.net i now get: Warning: failure to "zcat /snap-backing/live-sn.cpio.gz | cpio --unconditional --make-directories --extract --preserve-modification-time --no-absolute-filenames --sparse" 2010-07-05 13:22:51 < dba> at which point do you get that? 2010-07-05 13:23:10 < Kasreyn> at boot 2010-07-05 13:23:49 < dba> please boot with 'debug' and paste live.log on some pastebin 2010-07-05 13:24:05 < Kasreyn> where is live.log located again? 2010-07-05 13:24:47 < Kasreyn> nevermind i think i found it 2010-07-05 13:25:05 -!- unixabg [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-05 13:25:17 < Kasreyn> rebooting with debug now 2010-07-05 13:29:28 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 13:36:07 < Kasreyn> dba: http://codepad.org/vg0VMIxY 2010-07-05 13:39:20 < Kasreyn> codepad didn't take the important part: http://codepad.org/RPMGGtdr 2010-07-05 13:46:50 < dba> hmm, not being so familiar with the snapshot parts, i know the reasons for why it's claiming to fail. 2010-07-05 13:47:01 < dba> mammadori_: do you have any idea about http://codepad.org/RPMGGtdr ? 2010-07-05 13:47:19 < Kasreyn> why is failing ? 2010-07-05 13:47:44 < dba> s/know/don't know/ 2010-07-05 13:48:03 -!- juliank (Julian Andres Klode) [~juliank@p5B252DF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 13:48:50 < Kasreyn> neither do i, i can execute that command and from what i can tell it does what it's supposed to 2010-07-05 13:53:25 < SynrG> improper handling of return status from the pipeline? 2010-07-05 13:54:24 < mammadori_> or busybox overrides cpio 2010-07-05 13:54:35 < SynrG> hmm 2010-07-05 13:54:43 < SynrG> so one of the switches is now invalid? 2010-07-05 13:54:49 < mammadori_> better maybe to retry specifying PATH/cpio 2010-07-05 13:55:07 < mammadori_> we should check for syntax often :-) 2010-07-05 13:55:13 < mammadori_> or start using wrappers 2010-07-05 13:56:39 < SynrG> yah, there is cpio in busybox 2010-07-05 13:56:44 < SynrG> and it doesn't take long switchnames 2010-07-05 13:56:49 < mammadori_> Kasreyn: try to see if it fails copying the command on a shell and using "busybox cpio" instead of cpio 2010-07-05 13:57:07 < SynrG> i can almost guarantee it will fail 2010-07-05 13:57:13 < SynrG> i did busybox sh 2010-07-05 13:57:16 < SynrG> then cpio -? 2010-07-05 13:57:22 < SynrG> it only shows short switches 2010-07-05 13:57:38 < SynrG> vs. lots of supported long switches in the non-busybox version 2010-07-05 13:57:44 < mammadori_> I think we used to copy a cpio in the intitramfs some ages ago 2010-07-05 13:58:28 < SynrG> well, well. this could explain my repeated failures! 2010-07-05 13:58:44 < SynrG> so only snapshots made manually would work, then 2010-07-05 13:58:45 < mammadori_> It is some time I didn't checked snapshot on > lenny 2010-07-05 13:58:56 < mammadori_> on lenny they worked 2010-07-05 13:58:59 < Kasreyn> you mean | busybox cpio .. ? 2010-07-05 13:59:00 < SynrG> no wait, this is when it adds it to the union? 2010-07-05 13:59:08 < SynrG> so it will fail utterly on squeeze 2010-07-05 13:59:40 < mammadori_> Kasreyn: I mean "| busybox cpio" to have them fails 2010-07-05 13:59:51 < Kasreyn> i'll try it now 2010-07-05 14:00:11 < mammadori_> Kasreyn: and "| /usr/bin/cpio" to have them succeed 2010-07-05 14:00:23 < mammadori_> "/bin/cpio" 2010-07-05 14:00:48 < mammadori_> and be assured that "/bin/cpio" is the proper one, not the klibc's one 2010-07-05 14:01:06 < SynrG> ya 2010-07-05 14:01:11 < dba> who wants to come up with a patch? *puppy eyes with sugar and cherry on top* 2010-07-05 14:01:26 < mammadori_> " /bin/cpio --version" 2010-07-05 14:01:35 < dba> .oO(off for shower) 2010-07-05 14:01:44 < Kasreyn> ok that's not going to work busybox cpio just gices me the help 2010-07-05 14:02:13 < Kasreyn> /bin/cpio --version: cpio (GNU cpio) 2.9 2010-07-05 14:03:18 < SynrG> yes! just giving you the help is exactly what i thought! 2010-07-05 14:03:37 < SynrG> this is concealed in the log but is the reason for the failure 2010-07-05 14:03:39 < Kasreyn> cpio -idmvu is the same as all those -- switches 2010-07-05 14:03:56 < Kasreyn> and much quicker to write :P 2010-07-05 14:04:09 < SynrG> but not self-documenting 2010-07-05 14:04:16 < mammadori_> yes 2010-07-05 14:04:22 < mammadori_> agree 2010-07-05 14:04:36 < Kasreyn> it also says "cpio: error resolving hardlink: archive made by GNU cpio 2.0-2.2?" 2010-07-05 14:04:54 < mammadori_> interesting 2010-07-05 14:05:18 < SynrG> oh 2010-07-05 14:05:24 < Kasreyn> will i get the same thing in squeeze from debian.live.net ? 2010-07-05 14:05:24 < mammadori_> sid has 2.11 2010-07-05 14:06:10 < SynrG> but what is the busybox one based on? 2010-07-05 14:06:22 < SynrG> that may very well be identified as 2.0-2.2 2010-07-05 14:06:38 < SynrG> due to some change after that to support hardlinks 2010-07-05 14:06:46 < mammadori_> is git://live.debian.net/git/live-initramfs.git still valid? 2010-07-05 14:06:59 < SynrG> (i mean there is a check because the old versions don't support them?) 2010-07-05 14:07:37 < SynrG> hm. i haven't checked anything out of git since the split 2010-07-05 14:08:39 < mammadori_> I'll wait daniel, he probably have already told me about that, but I'm @work were I have another setup :-) 2010-07-05 14:08:51 < Kasreyn> *confused* what does busybox has to do with this? can't it just use the regular cpio? 2010-07-05 14:09:12 < mammadori_> Major changes in version 2.3: 2010-07-05 14:09:14 < mammadori_> * in newc and crc format archives, only store 1 copy of multiply linked files 2010-07-05 14:09:53 < SynrG> Kasreyn: by this point, yes, but busybox things are in the path and are being used instead 2010-07-05 14:10:28 < Kasreyn> so how could it be fixed? 2010-07-05 14:10:30 -!- blathijs_ is now known as blathijs 2010-07-05 14:10:35 < mammadori_> hooks/live: # Override already present cpio's, mostly klibc's 2010-07-05 14:10:36 < mammadori_> hooks/live: rm "${DESTDIR}/bin/cpio" 2010-07-05 14:10:38 < SynrG> or ... well ... i'm not sure if they're in the path. i think they're just internal. 2010-07-05 14:10:46 < mammadori_> are those lines still presents? 2010-07-05 14:10:46 < SynrG> he just *said* how to fix it 2010-07-05 14:11:07 < SynrG> Kasreyn: yes, you use the normal cpio 2010-07-05 14:11:28 < SynrG> 11:01 < mammadori_> Kasreyn: I mean "| busybox cpio" to have them fails 2010-07-05 14:11:33 < SynrG> 11:01 < mammadori_> Kasreyn: and "| /usr/bin/cpio" to have them succeed 2010-07-05 14:11:34 < SynrG> 11:02 < mammadori_> "/bin/cpio" 2010-07-05 14:11:57 < SynrG> (note his correction of the path) 2010-07-05 14:12:04 < Kasreyn> ok .. but is that something i can configure ? 2010-07-05 14:12:16 < mammadori_> maybe 2010-07-05 14:12:18 < SynrG> you could hand edit the live script and rebuild your image 2010-07-05 14:12:29 < Kasreyn> i'm kindof new to the live-helper configs 2010-07-05 14:12:52 < mammadori_> look at /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/ in target system 2010-07-05 14:13:04 -!- lindi-_ (Timo Lindfors) [~lindi@holodeck.hut.fi] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-05 14:13:50 -!- lindi- [~lindi@holodeck.hut.fi] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-05 14:14:20 < mammadori_> $ grep cpio chroot//usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/live 2010-07-05 14:14:47 < mammadori_> this seems to be already fixed... 2010-07-05 14:14:56 < mammadori_> later I'll check if I can reproduce ti 2010-07-05 14:15:11 < Kasreyn> fixed where? in squeeze? 2010-07-05 14:16:07 < Kasreyn> and yes mammadori_, those lines are present in hooks/live 2010-07-05 14:16:22 < mammadori_> You shoulld check the "/bin/cpio" in the initramfs, if it is not a link, probably there is an option in new busyboxes to use applets instead of binaries even if links are missing 2010-07-05 14:17:16 < mammadori_> if that is true, then those lines are not sufficients and invoking cpio with full path is mandatory to have it work 2010-07-05 14:17:28 < Kasreyn> it's not a link 2010-07-05 14:17:46 < mammadori_> I would provide this simple patch as soon as I find the proper git :-) 2010-07-05 14:18:49 < mammadori_> Kasreyn: please try to fix it by hand in your build system replacing "\" with "/bin/cpio" 2010-07-05 14:19:26 < Kasreyn> in which file? 2010-07-05 14:19:49 < mammadori_> grep '\' chroot//usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/live 2010-07-05 14:20:15 < SynrG> mammadori_: they're all linked from live.debian.net under the Development section 2010-07-05 14:20:22 < SynrG> easy to find. live-boot is what you want, i believe 2010-07-05 14:20:29 < mammadori_> then chroot in it, do an update-initramfs -tu -kall and copy the initrd out of it 2010-07-05 14:20:30 < SynrG> http://live.debian.net/gitweb?p=live-boot.git;a=blob;f=scripts/live;h=412094aee2b4990b231e064e71da8d423ed4abee;hb=HEAD 2010-07-05 14:20:45 < SynrG> that has the cpio line in question in it, in any case. 2010-07-05 14:21:04 < SynrG> line 995 2010-07-05 14:21:12 < mammadori_> SynrG: I have them right, then, maybe my boss firewalled me 2010-07-05 14:22:21 < SynrG> ah 2010-07-05 14:22:25 < SynrG> git://live.debian.net/git/live-boot.git doesn't work for you? 2010-07-05 14:22:42 < mammadori_> no, it's me, I'm still using live-initramfs :-( 2010-07-05 14:22:58 < SynrG> oh 2010-07-05 14:26:01 < Kasreyn> i changed cpio to /bin/cpio in chroot/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/live, then i did lh build, would that be suffice ? 2010-07-05 14:26:31 < SynrG> Kasreyn: you should not directly edit things in the chroot 2010-07-05 14:26:48 < SynrG> provide your own version in config/chroot_local-includes/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/live 2010-07-05 14:27:02 < Kasreyn> alright 2010-07-05 14:27:22 < SynrG> i *think* that works. you might need to rebuild the initramfs afterwards ... 2010-07-05 14:28:32 < mammadori_> http://codepad.org/5nguDLNk 2010-07-05 14:28:35 < SynrG> though i think chroot_hacks handles that 2010-07-05 14:28:57 < SynrG> and chroot_hacks runs after chroot_local-includes 2010-07-05 14:28:59 < SynrG> so you should be ok 2010-07-05 14:29:05 < mammadori_> this could be a patch 2010-07-05 14:29:09 < Kasreyn> hehe ok mammadori_ :) 2010-07-05 14:30:04 < Kasreyn> will you submit that so it ends up in squeeze at some point? 2010-07-05 14:30:31 < mammadori_> I'm finding my way to publish it, would you like to try it before? 2010-07-05 14:30:45 < Kasreyn> sure 2010-07-05 14:30:57 < Kasreyn> might take some time to rebuild though 2010-07-05 14:34:47 < mammadori_> I'll wait, I also need to find which user can push to live-boot git repo :-) 2010-07-05 14:45:32 < Kasreyn> beginning of the end of day for me though. i'll resume testing tomorrow 2010-07-05 14:45:57 < SynrG> mammadori_: if all else fails, just mail a patch 2010-07-05 14:49:33 -!- cody-somerville (Cody A.W. 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2010-07-06 07:34:56 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.250.165] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-06 07:40:07 < Kasreyn> this is what happens with the patch: http://codepad.org/b4dyLHH5 2010-07-06 07:40:23 < Kasreyn> "/root/bin/cpio --unconditional --make-directories --extract --preserve-modification-time --no-absolute-filenames --sparse 2010-07-06 07:40:55 < Kasreyn> instead of "cpio --unconditional.." 2010-07-06 07:42:10 < Kasreyn> will someone submit this to git ? 2010-07-06 07:44:58 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@188.109.250.165] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 07:47:14 -!- ihammers [~ihammers@81.201.254.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-06 08:29:23 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 08:37:52 -!- ihammers (purple) [~ihammers@81.201.254.124] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 09:13:25 -!- ihammers [~ihammers@81.201.254.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-06 10:10:58 -!- ihammers1 (purple) [~ihammers@81.201.254.124] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 10:20:34 -!- juliank (Julian Andres Klode) [~juliank@p5B25245D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 11:19:09 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-06 11:38:33 -!- Igloo_ is now known as Igloo 2010-07-06 11:41:12 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 11:43:44 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 11:47:24 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-06 12:19:31 -!- AmberJ [amberj@support.team.at.shellium.org] has quit [Quit: brb] 2010-07-06 12:35:44 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 12:47:29 < mammadori_> Kasreyn: the problem seems different to what I thought; /root/bin is in PATH before /bin, so if cpio is not installed in the target rootfs the wrong one is used it seems 2010-07-06 12:54:16 < mammadori_> Kasreyn: already submitted 2010-07-06 13:06:55 < CIA-11> amadorim debian-next * rd2991fa live-boot/scripts/live: 2010-07-06 13:06:55 < CIA-11> Snapshots: fix a debug message. 2010-07-06 13:06:55 < CIA-11> * Do not print misleading debug message if the snapshot was found correctly. 2010-07-06 13:06:55 < CIA-11> Signed-off-by: Marco Amadori 2010-07-06 13:07:34 < mammadori_> Kasreyn: thanks for debug outputs 2010-07-06 13:08:19 < dba> mammadori_: thanks, however, could you please not make 'better' commit messages, 2010-07-06 13:08:34 < dba> in the sense that the first line should be meaningfull and contain everything that's important, 2010-07-06 13:08:48 < dba> and, if any, subsequent lines are just more verbose/descriptive/whatever 2010-07-06 13:09:01 < dba> because remeber: only the first line does make it into the debian changelog 2010-07-06 13:09:57 < CIA-11> amadorim debian-next * rd197dfe live-boot/scripts/live: Do not print misleading debug message if the snapshot was found correctly. 2010-07-06 13:14:50 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-06 13:17:27 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 14:04:33 < Kasreyn> mammadori_: sweet! thanks 2010-07-06 14:08:21 < Kasreyn> wait where is it submitted ? 2010-07-06 14:18:31 < Kasreyn> now i found it 2010-07-06 14:19:18 < SynrG> Kasreyn: did that wiki guide for preparing a custom usb stick help? 2010-07-06 14:19:31 < SynrG> as i said, that needs to make it into the manual if you're inspired ... 2010-07-06 14:19:36 < Kasreyn> SynrG: well the manual i feel is better 2010-07-06 14:20:10 < SynrG> oh? it has instructions for getting an iso onto a usb stick and still use the rest for a persistence snapshot? 2010-07-06 14:20:14 < Kasreyn> actually, this is helpful though not sure if it's in the manual: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FirstStepsUSB 2010-07-06 14:20:33 < Kasreyn> i'll check the manual 2010-07-06 14:20:53 < SynrG> i think that would be a fairly typical use case 2010-07-06 14:21:43 < Kasreyn> well the manual doesn't mention lh config -d switch at all 2010-07-06 14:22:06 < Kasreyn> or -r switch which i feel is pretty important 2010-07-06 14:22:42 < Kasreyn> atleast it was for me. but no doubt others also want snapshots to work 2010-07-06 14:23:01 < Kasreyn> or just building from squeeze instead of default lenny 2010-07-06 14:24:11 < Kasreyn> yeah the wiki is slightly different and provides more info i feel 2010-07-06 14:24:57 < Kasreyn> the wiki doesn't have anything about using rest of the available space though 2010-07-06 14:25:05 < Kasreyn> they should merge :) 2010-07-06 14:25:43 < SynrG> --distribution is mentioned in the faq 2010-07-06 14:26:13 < SynrG> it refers to etch. hah! 2010-07-06 14:26:34 < SynrG> it also refers to casper. oy 2010-07-06 14:26:38 < Kasreyn> and why not have a subsection "3.3.5. Using persistance/snapshots on USB/HDD.." 2010-07-06 14:26:51 < SynrG> en/other/use-cases.xml has --distribution lenny 2010-07-06 14:27:33 < SynrG> the use case is "VMWare-Player Sessions" 2010-07-06 14:27:52 < SynrG> so yeah, nothing directly discusses selecting a distribution 2010-07-06 14:28:32 < mammadori_> dba: I'm aware that just the first line ends in the log, and I had that in mind writing the commit message. But please modify the commit message if you want, it is a matter of taste. 2010-07-06 14:28:35 < SynrG> yeah. i agree some more practical doc on persistence would help. submissions to the manual can be done by anyone 2010-07-06 14:39:07 < dba> there's a few things i'll want to finish/fix on the manual; and hopefully i'll get arround, after that, to move the stuff from the unsorted 'Other' to their proper location in the manual (either 'User', 'Development', or 'Project' part) and update it for squeeze. 2010-07-06 15:20:57 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-06 15:21:19 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 15:33:47 -!- d0rt [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-06 16:09:22 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-06 17:14:29 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 17:28:01 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-06 17:38:53 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 17:58:42 -!- jstein (Jonas Stein) [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-220-107.netcologne.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 18:10:04 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 18:17:25 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 18:20:12 -!- zumbi_ is now known as zumbi 2010-07-06 18:45:37 -!- d0rt [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-06 20:08:40 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 20:40:30 -!- unixabg [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-06 20:43:33 -!- d0rt [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-06 20:44:36 -!- jstein [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-220-107.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-06 20:44:53 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 20:52:23 -!- juliank [~juliank@p5B25245D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-06 20:55:28 -!- ihammers1 [~ihammers@81.201.254.124] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-06 21:03:03 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-06 21:52:57 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-06 22:17:15 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-06 23:29:25 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-06 23:30:49 -!- shoragan [~shoragan@sicherheitsschwankung.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Day changed Wed Jul 07 2010 2010-07-07 01:39:42 -!- ihammers (purple) [~ihammers@81.201.254.124] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 02:24:30 -!- rhaeder1 (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-134-234.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 02:29:03 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.250.165] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-07 04:33:27 -!- mammadori_ [~mammadori@firewall.vdavda.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-07 05:25:32 -!- ihammers [~ihammers@81.201.254.124] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-07 06:00:14 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 06:36:51 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 06:40:35 -!- mammadori (Marco Amadori) [~mammadori@firewall.vdavda.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 06:45:07 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-07 06:53:28 -!- twb (Trent W. Buck) [~twb@nat064.cyber.com.au] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 06:53:34 < twb> How do I enable experimental? 2010-07-07 06:53:45 < twb> In a live-helper configuration, I mean. 2010-07-07 06:54:14 < twb> I created config/chroot_sources/experimental.chroot, containing "deb http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/debian experimental @ARCHIVE_AREAS@" 2010-07-07 06:54:26 < twb> ...but I still get Package systemd is not available, but is referred to by another package. 2010-07-07 06:58:21 < twb> AFAICT chroot_sources is *supposed* to copy config/chroot_sources/*.chroot into chroot/etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list 2010-07-07 06:59:35 < twb> Hmm... it *does* get copied in. 2010-07-07 07:45:18 < twb> OK, never mind, I worked it out. 2010-07-07 07:45:27 < twb> config/repositories/experimental.chroot 2010-07-07 07:46:15 < twb> And a stub .gpg, to prevent it skipping out... 2010-07-07 08:25:22 -!- twb [~twb@nat064.cyber.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-07 08:39:02 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 08:44:01 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-07 08:45:27 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-07 08:45:46 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 08:48:51 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 08:49:32 < BTS> Opened #588306 in live-initramfs 1.236.2-1 by Colin Watson «Unreachable code in do_netmount». http://bugs.debian.org/588306 2010-07-07 08:55:31 < BTS> Opened #588307 in live-initramfs 1.236.2-1 by Colin Watson «Unreachable code in Arguments». http://bugs.debian.org/588307 2010-07-07 09:07:37 < mammadori> bug 588306 seems invalid, it confuses do_netsetup with do_netmount 2010-07-07 09:08:23 < mammadori> and do_netsetup is orrible indented 2010-07-07 09:09:37 < mammadori> 588307 is real, how that code could evolved that way? 2010-07-07 09:39:03 < CIA-11> amadorim debian-next * r1bde008 live-boot/scripts/live: 2010-07-07 09:39:03 < CIA-11> Remove unreachable code (Closes: #588307). 2010-07-07 09:39:03 < CIA-11> Signed-off-by: Marco Amadori 2010-07-07 10:09:29 < hendry> dba: are there some git experts around? mammadori ? 2010-07-07 10:09:37 < hendry> i'm trying to do a rebase 2010-07-07 10:09:56 < hendry> and i want to choose the XXX branch version of a file 2010-07-07 10:10:07 < hendry> i don't want to manually edit out the goddam conflict markers 2010-07-07 10:10:16 < hendry> how do i quickly say I want XXX file 2010-07-07 10:10:22 < hendry> or MY branch file 2010-07-07 10:13:41 < mammadori> git reset XXX -- file 2010-07-07 10:13:47 < mammadori> git checkout XXX -- file 2010-07-07 10:14:13 < mammadori> git add file 2010-07-07 10:14:20 < mammadori> git rebase --continue 2010-07-07 10:22:18 < hendry> i was hoping for a simpler UI like svn or mercurial does 2010-07-07 10:22:44 < hendry> with you can just select (o)urs (t)hiers 2010-07-07 10:22:58 < hendry> without coping and pasting filenames and such things 2010-07-07 10:25:19 < Kasreyn> really, how DO i set language in lh config? i have LH_BOOTAPPEND_LIVE="locale=sv_SE.utf8 keyb=se" but it does nothing. is it supported at all ? 2010-07-07 10:26:19 < Kasreyn> i've also set LH_LANGUAGE="se", nothing seems to help 2010-07-07 10:29:38 < mammadori> lang=se in bootline 2010-07-07 10:30:22 < mammadori> and be sure that "locales" package is available in the target system 2010-07-07 10:30:47 < mammadori> hendry: never used "git mergetool" having kdiff3 installed? 2010-07-07 10:34:43 < mammadori> hendry: there is the 'ours' and ''theirs', "git merge --help" and look for "theirs" 2010-07-07 10:35:27 < mammadori> but I'll use "git mergetool" for conflict resolution, it is easier 2010-07-07 10:38:44 < mammadori> hendry: look also at useful "git diff --base", "git diff --ours", and "git diff --theirs" 2010-07-07 10:42:36 < hendry> yes, git mergetool is what i need 2010-07-07 10:43:29 < Kasreyn> mammadori: i have locales package installed, if i dpkg-reconfigure and generate sv_SE.UTF-8 it works. i assume live generates those at boot but somehow fails to set it default? 2010-07-07 11:22:19 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 11:42:46 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rcc71f16 live-boot/ (hooks/live scripts/live): Adding btrfs support. 2010-07-07 11:45:33 < mikap> mammadori: where's the git repos available you're commiting+pushing to? 2010-07-07 11:52:18 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r7b250fa live-config/scripts/config/104-initramfs-tools: Updating replacement update-initramfs cope with files being in /boot rather than root. 2010-07-07 11:53:09 < dba> mikap: as always.. http://live.debian.net/gitweb 2010-07-07 11:54:32 < mikap> dba: didn't help, but found the answer: it's branch debian-next in live-boot 2010-07-07 11:56:46 < mikap> dba: live-boot isn't fully compatible with live-initramfs anymore, right? 2010-07-07 12:01:07 < hendry> mammadori: did I answer your question? 2010-07-07 12:03:18 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-07 12:08:43 < dba> mikap: that the branch is 'debian-next' you can see from the commit message. 2010-07-07 12:09:31 < mikap> dba: ah in the channel, ok 2010-07-07 12:09:32 < dba> mikap: and yes, some boot parameters are different, see man live-config. 2010-07-07 12:09:37 -!- harobed [~harobed@pda57-1-82-231-115-1.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-07 12:09:43 < mikap> dba: ok, thx 2010-07-07 12:10:44 < dba> Kasreyn: what is your boot parameter that you're using to setup the locales? 2010-07-07 12:11:43 < dba> Kasreyn: ah, i saw above.. you'll need to use live-config.locales=se_SV.UTF-8 2010-07-07 12:11:59 < dba> Kasreyn: if you use other boot parameters, you might want to check man live-config. 2010-07-07 12:35:07 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 13:28:56 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-07 13:58:41 < Kasreyn> dba: ok thanks 2010-07-07 14:06:24 < Kasreyn> dba: yepp works like a charm 2010-07-07 14:45:25 -!- sirrus14 (sirrus) [~sirrus@p4FFD2553.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 14:46:47 -!- sirrus14 [~sirrus@p4FFD2553.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 2010-07-07 15:22:30 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r5a5bbcf live-helper/helpers/binary_iso: Updating package name for isohybrid, in syslinux 4 it's in syslinux instead of syslinux-common. 2010-07-07 15:22:30 < BTS> Closed #517444 in live-initramfs by daniel@debian.org «'more' doesn't work». http://bugs.debian.org/517444 2010-07-07 15:26:18 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r2c114b7 live-boot/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.0. 2010-07-07 15:26:30 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rb7cfcee live-config/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.0. 2010-07-07 15:26:45 < CIA-11> daniel debian * ra2bb389 live-config-staging/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.0. 2010-07-07 15:27:09 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r4223b86 live-helper/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.0. 2010-07-07 16:00:25 -!- pallen (Patrick) [~patrick@209.254.15.226] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 16:03:04 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-07 17:21:15 -!- pallen [~patrick@209.254.15.226] has quit [Quit: ircII EPIC4-2.10.1 -- Are we there yet?] 2010-07-07 17:45:50 -!- KiBi_ (Cyril Brulebois) [~kibi@home.ikibiki.org] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 17:46:09 -!- KiBi_ [~kibi@home.ikibiki.org] has quit [] 2010-07-07 17:46:19 -!- KiBi_ (Cyril Brulebois) [~kibi@home.ikibiki.org] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 17:46:31 -!- KiBi_ [~kibi@home.ikibiki.org] has quit [] 2010-07-07 17:47:06 < CIA-11> daniel * r9c4e0fd live-magic/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.0. 2010-07-07 17:48:23 < CIA-11> daniel debian * re6d72e3 live-manual/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.0. 2010-07-07 18:07:37 < BTS> Closed #585932 in live-initramfs by daniel@debian.org «the PATH environment variable is not standard». http://bugs.debian.org/585932 2010-07-07 18:09:30 < SynrG> dba: hm. ya, i was annoyed to find slim didn't set PATH properly by default 2010-07-07 18:09:38 < SynrG> nothing to do with live, of course 2010-07-07 18:10:10 < SynrG> bugs.d.o isn't updated yet. what did #585932 turn out to be? 2010-07-07 18:10:36 < SynrG> oh, it is now 2010-07-07 18:10:40 < SynrG> maybe they have an image with slim? 2010-07-07 18:12:13 < SynrG> dba: i will add a note on the closed bug that may help the submitter, then, referring to #581775 2010-07-07 18:14:05 < CIA-11> amadorim debian * r4b9610a live-boot/scripts/live: Removing unreachable code in ethdevice argument handling (Closes: #588307). 2010-07-07 18:14:06 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r99a3dc0 live-boot/ (hooks/live scripts/live): Adding preparations for booting through syslinux memdisk. 2010-07-07 18:14:06 < CIA-11> amadorim debian * rd197dfe live-boot/scripts/live: Do not print misleading debug message if the snapshot was found correctly. 2010-07-07 18:14:08 < CIA-11> amadorim debian * rb1e77d7 live-boot/scripts/live: Avoiding using busybox cpio applet, this should fix snapshot restore. 2010-07-07 18:14:08 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rfa4e3b7 live-boot/ (hooks/live scripts/live): Adding btrfs support. 2010-07-07 18:14:15 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rafc4b60 live-boot/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.0. 2010-07-07 18:14:16 < CIA-11> amadorim debian-next * r4b9610a live-boot/scripts/live: Removing unreachable code in ethdevice argument handling (Closes: #588307). 2010-07-07 18:14:17 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rfa4e3b7 live-boot/ (hooks/live scripts/live): Adding btrfs support. 2010-07-07 18:14:18 < CIA-11> daniel pristine-tar * r470f0e1 live-boot/ (2 files): Adding pristine-tar version 2.0~a12. 2010-07-07 18:14:19 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rafc4b60 live-boot/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.0. 2010-07-07 18:14:19 < CIA-11> daniel upstream * rb6e6b37 live-boot/ (11 files in 7 dirs): Adding upstream version 2.0~a12. 2010-07-07 18:14:20 < CIA-11> daniel debian * re2ba97a live-boot/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a12-1. 2010-07-07 18:14:21 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * re2ba97a live-boot/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a12-1. 2010-07-07 18:15:00 < dba> SynrG: oh, i didn't even though of using a display manager changes that. 2010-07-07 18:15:15 < dba> SynrG: that's indeed very strange if slim does that. 2010-07-07 18:15:19 < SynrG> yes 2010-07-07 18:15:27 < SynrG> i'm pretty sure gdm/kdm are ok 2010-07-07 18:15:40 < dba> yes 2010-07-07 18:15:40 < SynrG> nodm? 2010-07-07 18:15:51 < SynrG> anyway. additional info submitted. 2010-07-07 18:15:54 < dba> checking on other notebook.. 2010-07-07 18:16:58 < dba> nodm does it correct too. 2010-07-07 18:17:54 -!- Father0fNine (Darren) [~Father0fN@207.225.184.101] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 18:20:55 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r11974af live-config/scripts/ (config.sh config/999-hooks): Factoring out common function to start network. 2010-07-07 18:20:56 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rb7cfcee live-config/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.0. 2010-07-07 18:20:58 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r7b250fa live-config/scripts/config/104-initramfs-tools: Updating replacement update-initramfs cope with files being in /boot rather than root. 2010-07-07 18:21:06 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r8a3631d live-config/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a12-1. 2010-07-07 18:21:07 < CIA-11> daniel upstream * ra6d8fd8 live-config/ (10 files in 9 dirs): Adding upstream version 2.0~a12. 2010-07-07 18:21:08 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r8a3631d live-config/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a12-1. 2010-07-07 18:21:14 < CIA-11> daniel pristine-tar * re6619a9 live-config/ (2 files): Adding pristine-tar version 2.0~a12. 2010-07-07 18:27:27 < dba> SynrG: thanks a lot for the bug addition. 2010-07-07 18:27:32 < SynrG> dba: highly probably he was using slim, then. but he never posted his config :p 2010-07-07 18:27:42 < SynrG> dba: maybe we need to patch reportbug to ask some more questions? 2010-07-07 18:28:12 < SynrG> would be nice if it could automatically include your config (well, with some limit on size, i guess) 2010-07-07 18:29:44 < dba> SynrG: patches welcome :) 2010-07-07 18:30:02 < SynrG> yeah, a belated birthday patch :) 2010-07-07 18:30:16 < dba> we once had the idea of having lh config knowing about a --report option or something like that, 2010-07-07 18:30:25 < SynrG> ah! 2010-07-07 18:30:26 < dba> where it produces some sort of overview of the config that are relevant 2010-07-07 18:30:31 < SynrG> that would be perfect for this 2010-07-07 18:30:34 < dba> jup 2010-07-07 18:30:40 < SynrG> explode the package lists 2010-07-07 18:30:54 < SynrG> and then condense it 2010-07-07 18:31:05 < SynrG> (space-delimited, filled to the width of the display) 2010-07-07 18:31:14 < dba> there are three things we need to know: 2010-07-07 18:31:18 < dba> a) what host distribution 2010-07-07 18:31:56 < dba> b) what version of some packages of importance on the host distribution (e.g. squashfs, debootstrap) 2010-07-07 18:32:43 < dba> c) an overview of the config, means: an ls-lR of auto/* and config/*, and the contents of any local packageslists and probably also local hooks. 2010-07-07 18:33:14 < dba> d) all LH_* values 2010-07-07 18:33:24 < dba> s/debootstrap/debootstrap, live-helper/ 2010-07-07 18:33:28 < dba> anything else you can think of? 2010-07-07 18:33:30 < SynrG> or. all non-default LH_* values ;) 2010-07-07 18:33:40 < SynrG> all LH_* values is horrible to look at 2010-07-07 18:33:52 < SynrG> however, "non-default" is hard, since it's dynamic :p 2010-07-07 18:33:56 < dba> jup :) 2010-07-07 18:34:28 < dba> but i have an idea how to avoid that 2010-07-07 18:34:45 < dba> currently, and this is broken behaviour, lh config populates the config files with commentary on 2010-07-07 18:35:06 < dba> the default value, but that default value is inherited from defaults.sh, 2010-07-07 18:35:10 < SynrG> yeah. "default" doesn't mean what's default, but what it was before 2010-07-07 18:35:27 < dba> means, if you do: lh config -d sid, then lh config will write in config/bootstrap that sid is default. 2010-07-07 18:35:35 * SynrG nods 2010-07-07 18:35:54 < dba> if i don't expand those values, but hardcode them for the comments, 2010-07-07 18:36:09 < dba> then we could compare config/* to the values in the commentary, and only list non-defaults then. 2010-07-07 18:36:16 < dba> .oO(very ugly....) 2010-07-07 18:37:11 < SynrG> or else just get defaults.sh to produce a structure in memory containing defaults and have defaults.sh called somehow from --report 2010-07-07 18:38:07 < SynrG> hell 2010-07-07 18:38:21 < SynrG> just make top-level config files immutable :p 2010-07-07 18:38:38 < SynrG> and force everyone to use auto 2010-07-07 18:38:51 < dba> heh :) 2010-07-07 18:38:57 < SynrG> really 2010-07-07 18:39:01 < dba> well, the whole config thing anyway is somewhat really ugly 2010-07-07 18:39:08 < SynrG> indeed 2010-07-07 18:39:30 < SynrG> if it's a registry of what --switches we specified ... 2010-07-07 18:39:42 < SynrG> write it as such, make a gawdawful XML file ;) 2010-07-07 18:39:50 < dba> xml sucks 2010-07-07 18:39:57 < SynrG> hence winky ;) 2010-07-07 18:40:01 < dba> i want to go for ini format 2010-07-07 18:40:20 < SynrG> fine by me. but really it must be immutable 2010-07-07 18:40:24 < dba> hmm 2010-07-07 18:40:28 < SynrG> or else the defaulting fixed 2010-07-07 18:40:44 < dba> let's discuss this during debcamp/debconf 2010-07-07 18:40:48 < SynrG> ok. 2010-07-07 18:41:45 < dba> unless you have some more ideas now, because i don't :) 2010-07-07 18:41:48 < SynrG> if it knows what the dependencies are, it should be able to tell you when they need to be reset. 2010-07-07 18:42:29 < SynrG> if each variable not only has a value, but attributes ... 2010-07-07 18:42:40 < SynrG> one could be depends: 2010-07-07 18:43:19 < SynrG> if you can construct a dependency tree, you'll know when you change a variable that dependent variables need to change too 2010-07-07 18:43:33 < SynrG> or at least warn that they *may* need to change 2010-07-07 18:46:55 < SynrG> to restate: 2010-07-07 18:47:24 < SynrG> 1. i should know if a variable has dependencies 2010-07-07 18:48:32 < SynrG> 2. i should know what the values of the dependent variables were at the time the variable was set 2010-07-07 18:49:52 < SynrG> 3. given i know both 1 and 2, i can check if any of the *current* values of dependent variables differ from those at the time the variable was set, and therefore know if this variable should change 2010-07-07 18:52:34 < SynrG> lh_foo = bar # depends: lh_baz = quux, lh_bar = foo 2010-07-07 18:53:57 < SynrG> we ought to be able to replay this through the default setter and compare results, flagging the change as a warning 2010-07-07 18:54:31 < SynrG> e.g. if lh_baz = wibble ... 2010-07-07 18:54:37 < SynrG> lh_foo may now need to change 2010-07-07 18:55:15 < SynrG> but only flag the warning if the calculated default differs from the currently set value 2010-07-07 18:57:20 < dba> SynrG: jfyi, i've did a slim 0-day nmu for the missing xauth depends, and updated the path by that. testing now, then uploading. 2010-07-07 18:58:02 -!- Father0fNine [~Father0fN@207.225.184.101] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-07 18:58:48 < SynrG> dba: excellent 2010-07-07 18:58:51 < SynrG> gotta run 2010-07-07 19:01:22 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-07 19:07:01 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 19:19:17 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 19:19:38 < dba> SynrG: uploaded to delayed/3 2010-07-07 19:19:58 < dba> not 0-day, since we're not in 0day phase already iirc. 2010-07-07 19:30:12 -!- d0rt [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-07 19:54:38 -!- Father0fNine (Darren) [~Father0fN@207.225.184.101] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 19:55:23 < Father0fNine> What is the difference between Live and Live(failsafe) in the image (using webconverger add-on) 2010-07-07 19:56:31 < Father0fNine> Never you mind, it just came up. The screen just scrambled instead of producing any neat clean boot procedures 2010-07-07 20:13:32 -!- Father0fNine [~Father0fN@207.225.184.101] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-07 20:53:40 -!- Father0fNine (Darren) [~Father0fN@207.225.184.101] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 20:54:40 -!- unixabg [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-07 21:26:55 < SynrG> dba: good 2010-07-07 21:43:23 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 22:00:16 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2010-07-07 22:11:43 -!- khopesh (www.khopesh.com) [~khopesh@alumni-linux.ccs.neu.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-07 22:12:06 < khopesh> is there a way to create a usb boot image straight from an ISO? 2010-07-07 22:13:01 < dba> as straight forward as manually partitioning the stick, copy the content of the iso, 2010-07-07 22:13:16 < dba> adjusting the syslinux configs, and writing syslinux to the sticks mbr is. 2010-07-07 22:13:33 < dba> however, note that you can avoid the problem if you don't build a iso image 2010-07-07 22:13:53 < dba> but an isohybrid in the first place. those images can be either burned as cd/dvd/$whatever, 2010-07-07 22:14:06 < dba> or be dd'ed to a block device such as usb sticks. 2010-07-07 22:15:21 < khopesh> i just need a quick repair disk. live-magic needs to download 334MB just to get the data, then build it into a jail ... the rescue disk should be ~40MB, no? 2010-07-07 22:17:17 < khopesh> hrm, alpha1 of squeeze's iso is 519MB... that's enormous. 2010-07-07 22:20:55 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-07 22:26:17 -!- Father0fNine [~Father0fN@207.225.184.101] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-07 22:29:15 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-07 22:30:12 < dba> khopesh: rescue is not ment as a small disk, it contains all sorts of programs that can be handy 2010-07-07 22:30:30 < dba> khopesh: the idea is to have as much stuff arround as on one cd fits 2010-07-07 23:43:31 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-07 23:47:06 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has joined #debian-live --- Day changed Thu Jul 08 2010 2010-07-08 00:12:39 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r29bc7ef live-helper/helpers/chroot_hacks: Updating hacks to cope with gdm and gdm3 packages. 2010-07-08 00:22:48 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 00:31:40 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 01:17:31 -!- Igloo_ (Ian Lynagh) [ian@chaos.earth.li] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 01:19:31 -!- Igloo [ian@chaos.earth.li] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 01:58:01 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-08 02:00:18 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 02:31:56 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 02:48:24 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 02:52:49 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-08 02:54:18 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 03:10:52 -!- Igloo (Ian Lynagh) [ian@chaos.earth.li] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 03:12:17 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-08 03:12:50 -!- Igloo_ [ian@chaos.earth.li] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 03:16:46 -!- unixabg (Unknown) [~richard@204.27.57.154] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 03:22:57 -!- unixabg [~richard@204.27.57.154] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-08 03:25:21 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 03:26:14 -!- unixabg (Unknown) [~richard@204.27.57.154] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 03:34:12 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 03:34:27 -!- unixabg [~richard@204.27.57.154] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-08 03:34:55 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 04:39:39 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-08 04:40:22 -!- jens (purple) [~me@121.52.145.146] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 04:52:32 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 04:52:39 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-08 04:53:46 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 05:09:00 -!- fabo [~fabo@esprx02x.nokia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-08 05:10:44 -!- fabo (Fathi Boudra) [~fabo@esprx01x.nokia.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 05:22:39 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 05:31:47 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 05:49:10 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 06:55:38 -!- jens [~me@121.52.145.146] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 07:03:57 -!- jens (purple) [~me@121.52.145.146] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 07:24:32 -!- fabo_ (Fathi Boudra) [~fabo@esprx02x.nokia.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 07:27:04 -!- fabo [~fabo@esprx01x.nokia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-08 07:28:16 -!- fabo_ is now known as fabo 2010-07-08 07:35:02 < Kasreyn> how can i set the default live user? so that instead og /home/user i have /home/myusername and that user is automaticly logged in. 2010-07-08 07:36:28 < Kasreyn> i've tried LH_USERNAME="myusername" but it doesn't work 2010-07-08 07:55:38 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 08:22:05 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-08 08:32:16 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-08 08:43:42 < Kasreyn> ok that is solved by appending live-config.username=myusername to boot 2010-07-08 08:44:06 < Kasreyn> but now it says "localesLocale se_SV.UTF-8 is unsupported" at boot 2010-07-08 08:44:27 < Kasreyn> it was working before though :/ 2010-07-08 08:44:38 < Kasreyn> locales package is still installed 2010-07-08 08:56:12 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 09:07:47 -!- hramrach_ [~hramrach@19NAAANCW.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-08 09:08:31 -!- lindi-_ is now known as lindi- 2010-07-08 09:09:15 < Kasreyn> i mean do i have to tell lh config to include the se_SV.UTF-8 profile? 2010-07-08 09:11:30 < SynrG> no idea 2010-07-08 09:11:47 < Kasreyn> i can do it with live-snapshot though 2010-07-08 09:12:34 -!- hramrach_ (Michal Suchanek) [~hramrach@89.111.168.177] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 09:14:49 < Kasreyn> ok so only thing i did was dpkg-reconfigure locales, inlcuded se_SV.UTF-8, live-snapshot that and reboot. now it works 2010-07-08 09:18:51 < Kasreyn> i'm running squeeze btw :) lots could have changed 2010-07-08 09:19:02 < Kasreyn> wiki has different syntax 2010-07-08 09:19:07 < Kasreyn> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/l10n 2010-07-08 09:19:31 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 09:25:32 < Kasreyn> i believe it's live-config.locales=se instead of live-config.locales=se_SV.UTF-8 2010-07-08 09:45:37 < Kasreyn> damn. spellingerror 2010-07-08 09:45:46 < Kasreyn> sv_SE not se_SV 2010-07-08 09:46:17 < Kasreyn> ignore everything i have said :) 2010-07-08 09:47:16 < SynrG> haha 2010-07-08 11:58:22 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 12:01:58 -!- Igloo_ (Ian Lynagh) [ian@chaos.earth.li] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 12:03:57 -!- Igloo [ian@chaos.earth.li] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 12:18:28 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-08 13:15:08 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-08 13:20:58 -!- jens [~me@121.52.145.146] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-08 13:31:02 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 13:40:44 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 13:55:33 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-08 13:58:09 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 14:02:38 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 14:07:01 -!- d0rt [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 14:19:28 -!- twb (Trent W. Buck) [~twb@nat064.cyber.com.au] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 14:19:40 < twb> dba: syslinux 4.01 has isohybrid.pl instead of isohybrid 2010-07-08 14:19:59 < twb> Apart from (I think) being discouraged by debian-policy, this breaks live-help ~a17 2010-07-08 14:20:04 < twb> *live-helper 2010-07-08 14:28:19 < dba> twb: http://live.debian.net/gitweb?p=live-helper.git;a=commitdiff;h=5a5bbcf23cbc8b7b0c999f01887e794d8c5ff207;hp=90b1e0d8fd7cccef30520bd12f3013533cbe312c 2010-07-08 14:28:43 < dba> twb: and no, it's not discouraged by policy. 2010-07-08 14:29:14 < dba> we have isohybrid (the c implementation, in package syslinux), and isohybrid.pl (the perl legacy implementation, in package syslinux-common) which is perfectly fine. 2010-07-08 14:31:28 < twb> OK, well all I know is "lh build" failed because isohybrid wasn't in path 2010-07-08 14:31:38 < twb> binary.sh: 5: isohybrid: not found 2010-07-08 14:31:53 < twb> (When building a sid/experimental image just now.) 2010-07-08 14:34:28 < twb> script-with-language-extension is the lintian tag I was thinking of, but if there's both "isohybrid" and "isohybrid.pl", it makes sense that you can't rename the latter to the former. 2010-07-08 14:34:59 < dba> twb: isohybrid not found is fixed by that commit above. 2010-07-08 14:35:14 < twb> Oh, I see. I misunderstood. 2010-07-08 14:38:56 < twb> BTW, I have a git clone of l-h that I wanted to use without installing, but I couldn't work out how to invoke the "local" helper correctly. 2010-07-08 14:39:26 < SynrG> in this case i usually just debuild it and install it anyway 2010-07-08 14:39:30 < twb> It might have just been a bug elsewhere... 2010-07-08 14:39:32 < SynrG> then revert to the official one 2010-07-08 14:39:37 < SynrG> when i'm done 2010-07-08 14:40:00 < twb> SynrG: that's basically plan B 2010-07-08 14:40:28 < dba> we know that local is broken, but that's very low priority atm 2010-07-08 14:40:35 < twb> Oh, OK. I didn't know. 2010-07-08 14:40:59 < dba> see #572455 2010-07-08 14:41:27 < twb> I should go through all the open BTS tickets... 2010-07-08 14:43:15 -!- pollux [~pollux@fydelkass.inl.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 14:46:57 -!- pollux (Pierre Chifflier) [~pollux@fydelkass.inl.fr] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 15:15:43 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-08 15:16:21 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 15:30:50 < twb> Hm. Where does live-helper call "syslinux --install"? 2010-07-08 15:31:34 < twb> I was looking to see if there was an easy way to trick it into using extlinux when asked for LH_BINARY_FILESYSTEM=ext3 LH_BOOTLOADER=syslinux 2010-07-08 15:33:21 < dba> extlinux support is on my todo for saturday. 2010-07-08 15:33:42 < twb> Ooh 2010-07-08 15:34:44 < twb> Hum, looks like it's cp chroot/usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux.bin ${SCREEN_PATH}/syslinux.bin 2010-07-08 15:35:43 < twb> I'm not sure if you can install extlinux into the PBR without mounting loopback 2010-07-08 15:39:24 < twb> btw, I think live-helper managed to leave an empty samhain file in /var on my host OS 2010-07-08 15:39:54 < twb> I haven't chased it down; I just noticed it in a backup's logs, and then a couple of days later in a lh helper 2010-07-08 15:41:18 -!- twb [~twb@nat064.cyber.com.au] has quit [Quit: 1:45AM; time to go home.] 2010-07-08 16:11:42 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-08 16:42:32 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 17:02:56 -!- khopesh [~khopesh@alumni-linux.ccs.neu.edu] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-08 17:37:30 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 18:35:01 -!- franklin (Franklin PIAT) [~fpiat@klabs.be] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-08 18:41:22 -!- franklin_ [~fpiat@klabs.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-08 23:30:36 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] --- Day changed Fri Jul 09 2010 2010-07-09 00:12:11 -!- rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-134-234.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-09 02:43:07 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@72.55.119.254] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 02:47:24 < unixabg> hendry, you online? On the m-l you say fail to boot to X what is the error? 2010-07-09 02:59:15 -!- unixabg [~rjent@72.55.119.254] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-09 03:13:41 -!- mictlan__ (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.153.247] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 03:17:24 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@187.132.131.88] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-09 04:17:32 -!- mictlan__ [~mictlan@189.188.153.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-09 04:39:38 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 04:42:33 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.153.247] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 04:52:06 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.153.247] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-09 05:13:11 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.153.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-09 05:16:50 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.153.247] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 05:44:26 -!- fabo [~fabo@esprx02x.nokia.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2010-07-09 05:44:42 -!- fabo (Fathi Boudra) [~fabo@esprx02x.nokia.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 06:19:52 -!- fabo [~fabo@esprx02x.nokia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-09 06:21:26 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.153.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-09 06:34:54 -!- fabo (Fathi Boudra) [~fabo@esprx02x.nokia.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 07:48:36 < hendry> moin 2010-07-09 07:56:29 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-137-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 08:00:18 < Kasreyn> can anyone tell me why fdisk hangs with the following script: http://codepad.org/MKGbFiIG 2010-07-09 08:22:35 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 08:50:54 < mikap> Kasreyn: echo -en "m\nq\n" | fdisk /dev/sdb 2010-07-09 08:51:17 < mikap> Kasreyn: does this work for you? 2010-07-09 08:52:07 < mikap> Kasreyn: ah, gnu fdisk - try fdisk from util-linux instead 2010-07-09 08:57:32 < Kasreyn> hehe ok 2010-07-09 08:58:36 < lindi-> echo -en unfortunately fails with dash 2010-07-09 09:05:19 < Kasreyn> fdisk.distrib works a lot better 2010-07-09 09:05:28 < Kasreyn> thanks for pointing that out 2010-07-09 09:23:46 < mikap> dba: i'd submit a bof for DC10 wrt initramfs & CO, would you be interested in attending? 2010-07-09 11:08:07 < dba> mikap: as kind of passive listener i guess, yes. 2010-07-09 11:08:15 < mikap> dba: k 2010-07-09 11:14:32 < SynrG> i would too 2010-07-09 11:19:22 < mikap> SynrG: great 2010-07-09 12:19:54 -!- juliank (Julian Andres Klode) [~juliank@p5B252882.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 12:30:25 < Kasreyn> btw, debian live is really cool :) 2010-07-09 12:30:36 < dba> :) 2010-07-09 13:56:03 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r0cab70d live-manual/ (7 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a3-1. 2010-07-09 13:57:36 < CIA-11> daniel pristine-tar * r6cf5665 live-manual/ (2 files): Adding pristine-tar version 2.0~a3. 2010-07-09 13:57:37 < CIA-11> daniel upstream * r9e21185 live-manual/ (25 files in 10 dirs): Adding upstream version 2.0~a3. 2010-07-09 14:54:34 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-137-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-09 14:58:28 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-137-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 15:33:04 < CIA-11> daniel tmp-sisu * r9d3db75 live-manual/ (253 files in 12 dirs): Switching from docbook to sisu (INCOMPLETE). 2010-07-09 15:55:58 -!- ciphergoth (Paul Crowley) [~ciphergot@host238.lshift.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 15:56:51 < ciphergoth> Is there an easy way to add new content to the CD before the iso is generated? IE a new directory next to doc, isolinux, live 2010-07-09 15:57:53 < SynrG> yes. that's what it's all about 2010-07-09 15:58:52 < SynrG> you want config/binary_local-includes/ 2010-07-09 15:59:54 < ciphergoth> ah, I was looking at config/chroot_local-includes, but that puts it in the squashfs filesystem 2010-07-09 15:59:57 < ciphergoth> thanks 2010-07-09 16:04:23 < ciphergoth> huh, my values for LH_CACHE, LH_CACHE_PACKAGES, LH_CACHE_STAGES and LH_DEBIAN_INSTALLER are all default, but I'm still being warned about them. 2010-07-09 16:05:13 < CIA-11> daniel tmp-sisu * r6bb3b6a live-manual/ (252 files in 11 dirs): Switching from docbook to sisu (INCOMPLETE). 2010-07-09 16:05:28 < SynrG> ciphergoth: "default" is misleading 2010-07-09 16:05:41 < SynrG> defaults are determined from prior values by default.sh 2010-07-09 16:07:27 -!- mammadori [~mammadori@firewall.vdavda.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-09 16:07:40 < SynrG> incidentally, are you: 2010-07-09 16:07:42 < SynrG> - using live-magic 2010-07-09 16:07:57 < SynrG> - re-using a single config across multiple releases of live-helper? 2010-07-09 16:09:15 < ciphergoth> I'm not using live-magic 2010-07-09 16:09:24 < ciphergoth> it's very possible I'm doing the latter thoguh 2010-07-09 16:10:25 < ciphergoth> I ran lh config and then checked in the result 2010-07-09 16:11:32 < ciphergoth> if that' snot the right way to version control work on making a live iso image then I may need to do something else 2010-07-09 16:11:58 < SynrG> it is recommended you do not store config in version control 2010-07-09 16:12:07 < SynrG> instead, make use of auto/config, auto/build and auto/clean 2010-07-09 16:12:16 < SynrG> particularly the former and latter 2010-07-09 16:12:26 < SynrG> in auto/config, run lh config noauto 2010-07-09 16:12:43 < SynrG> in auto/clean remove all build products including config/* (top-level files only) 2010-07-09 16:12:44 < ciphergoth> hmm, can't find that in the manual 2010-07-09 16:12:57 < SynrG> patches welcome :) 2010-07-09 16:13:17 < ciphergoth> absolutely, but I need to understand it first :) 2010-07-09 16:13:26 < SynrG> you can use mine: 2010-07-09 16:13:27 < SynrG> http://git.debian.org/?p=debian-eeepc/eeepc-live.git;a=summary 2010-07-09 16:13:57 < SynrG> auto/clean will be run whenever you lh clean 2010-07-09 16:14:02 < SynrG> etc. 2010-07-09 16:14:43 < SynrG> also when you run build, if there is no config (because you have just run 'lh clean') it will automatically run 'lh config' 2010-07-09 16:14:56 < SynrG> thus lh clean ; lh build continues to work as expected 2010-07-09 16:15:15 < ciphergoth> so the right thing is to have only auto/config present in the version control 2010-07-09 16:15:25 < ciphergoth> to configure things using lh commands in there 2010-07-09 16:15:28 < SynrG> well, auto/config and of course config/*/* 2010-07-09 16:15:46 < SynrG> i.e. all of your package lists, included materials, hooks, etc. 2010-07-09 16:15:46 < ciphergoth> so I do check in the config directory? 2010-07-09 16:15:55 < SynrG> yes. just not the top-level configs 2010-07-09 16:15:58 < ciphergoth> right 2010-07-09 16:16:01 < SynrG> i.e. not config/bootstrap, etc. 2010-07-09 16:16:11 < SynrG> so check it in *after* running lh clean 2010-07-09 16:16:39 < SynrG> make sure you've migrated all your current config/whatever into auto/config 2010-07-09 16:16:52 < SynrG> before you lh clean with the auto/clean hook 2010-07-09 16:17:28 < SynrG> then delete from your repo any of the files that are cleaned up 2010-07-09 16:17:39 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-09 16:18:14 < SynrG> expect in a future release of l-h for this to be improved (i.e. automatically create auto/* when you first 'lh config' in a bare directory) 2010-07-09 16:19:13 < ciphergoth> so in a clean dir, my build process will be just "lh config", and that will run stuff in auto/config, and that should specify stuff like the mirror, packages etc 2010-07-09 16:19:31 < SynrG> yup 2010-07-09 16:19:43 < SynrG> those additional variables are my own (or an adaptation of webconverger's) 2010-07-09 16:19:46 < SynrG> and are non-essential 2010-07-09 16:20:00 < SynrG> the essential bit is lh config noauto --yourswitches 2010-07-09 16:20:18 < SynrG> you can make lh config do any configuration you want 2010-07-09 16:20:34 < SynrG> in a prior revision in my project i was using it to generate material to put in chroot_local-sources 2010-07-09 16:20:38 < SynrG> er 2010-07-09 16:20:44 < SynrG> chroot_sources i mean 2010-07-09 16:20:51 < ciphergoth> don't know what that is 2010-07-09 16:20:58 < SynrG> /etc/apt/sources.list material 2010-07-09 16:21:23 < SynrG> i wanted to mix in sid into an otherwise squeeze live image 2010-07-09 16:21:29 < ciphergoth> I'd like to disable networking, but all I really need to do is install some packages and stick those files under binary_local-include 2010-07-09 16:21:40 < SynrG> so based on the variables in auto/config i would generate a file to drop into config/chroot_sources 2010-07-09 16:22:25 < SynrG> basically, any configuration task imaginable can go into auto/config, depending on what you need 2010-07-09 16:22:34 < SynrG> just make sure the corresponding removal occurs in auto/config 2010-07-09 16:22:37 < SynrG> er 2010-07-09 16:22:39 < SynrG> auto/clean i mean 2010-07-09 16:24:37 -!- otavio [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has quit [Quit: reboot] 2010-07-09 16:27:03 < ciphergoth> oo gosh, lh_config has more than two command line options 2010-07-09 16:28:30 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 16:30:06 < SynrG> heh. yeah. plenty 2010-07-09 16:30:30 < SynrG> basically one per variable, hence no real need to edit variables 2010-07-09 16:33:50 < ciphergoth> I'm building a poor man's secure key storage 2010-07-09 16:34:02 < ciphergoth> the machine has no net and no hard rive 2010-07-09 16:34:04 < SynrG> ah. cool 2010-07-09 16:34:11 < ciphergoth> you add a new key by burning a new CD 2010-07-09 16:37:07 < ciphergoth> OK here we go :-) 2010-07-09 16:37:27 < ciphergoth> many thanks for this - I've really been wondering what the Right Way to mix this and source control was, so thanks again 2010-07-09 16:40:00 < ciphergoth> checking component main on ftp.de.debian.org? I told it to use my local mirror... 2010-07-09 16:45:59 < SynrG> cdn.debian.net is the default for the binary 2010-07-09 16:46:12 < SynrG> it geolocates a mirror for you 2010-07-09 16:46:24 < SynrG> depends on what part of the build that's happening in 2010-07-09 16:47:22 < SynrG> there are several switches governing choice of mirror depending on whether it's for building the chroot, or to put into the image binary itself for the users' sake 2010-07-09 16:47:36 < SynrG> cdn.debian.net mostly makes sense for public images usable by anyone 2010-07-09 16:47:41 < ciphergoth> OK 2010-07-09 16:47:52 < ciphergoth> I think it must be using my mirror - it fetched packages very fast 2010-07-09 16:48:18 < SynrG> it *will* do stuff in the chroot near the end of the build to build the apt index for the user 2010-07-09 16:48:27 < SynrG> and that's where it would be using cdn.debian.net 2010-07-09 16:48:29 < ciphergoth> OK 2010-07-09 16:48:36 < ciphergoth> E: Regex compilation error - Invalid preceding regular expression 2010-07-09 16:48:57 < SynrG> config problem somewhere 2010-07-09 16:49:26 < ciphergoth> any preferred pastebin? 2010-07-09 16:49:48 < ciphergoth> the config is very short 2010-07-09 16:50:12 < SynrG> doesn't matter. paste.debian.net is fine 2010-07-09 16:50:47 < ciphergoth> #!/bin/sh 2010-07-09 16:50:51 < ciphergoth> set -e 2010-07-09 16:50:55 < ciphergoth> lh config noauto \ 2010-07-09 16:50:57 < ciphergoth> --architecture i386 \ 2010-07-09 16:50:59 < ciphergoth> --apt-recommends false \ 2010-07-09 16:51:01 < ciphergoth> --archive-areas "main contrib non-free" \ 2010-07-09 16:51:03 < ciphergoth> --memtest none \ 2010-07-09 16:51:05 < ciphergoth> --mirror-bootstrap "http://mirror.lshift.net/ftp.uk.debian.org/debian-lenny/" \ 2010-07-09 16:51:07 < ciphergoth> --mirror-chroot "http://mirror.lshift.net/ftp.uk.debian.org/debian-lenny/" \ 2010-07-09 16:51:09 < ciphergoth> --checksums false \ 2010-07-09 16:51:11 < ciphergoth> --hostname "keyholder" \ 2010-07-09 16:51:13 < ciphergoth> --syslinux-timeout 3 \ 2010-07-09 16:51:15 < ciphergoth> ${@} 2010-07-09 16:51:17 < ciphergoth> dammit 2010-07-09 16:51:19 < ciphergoth> that wasn't supposed to happen 2010-07-09 16:51:20 < SynrG> oh, i meant i have no preferred pastebin when i said "doesn't matter" :) 2010-07-09 16:51:21 < ciphergoth> http://paste.debian.net/80102/ 2010-07-09 16:51:23 < SynrG> heh 2010-07-09 16:51:23 < ciphergoth> that was supposed to happen. Sorry. 2010-07-09 16:51:26 < SynrG> np 2010-07-09 16:51:54 < ciphergoth> anything obviously suspicious in there? 2010-07-09 16:52:07 < SynrG> --checksums false perhaps? 2010-07-09 16:52:30 < SynrG> the doc does not list false as one of the allowable values 2010-07-09 16:52:31 < ciphergoth> OK K well I don't care about that so I'll remove it 2010-07-09 16:52:34 < ciphergoth> oh oops 2010-07-09 16:53:33 < SynrG> hah, and then the description goes on and says "In general, this should not be false and is an important feature of live system released to the public. 2010-07-09 16:53:37 < SynrG> " 2010-07-09 16:53:48 < SynrG> the implication being that false is (or was) an allowable value 2010-07-09 16:53:57 < ciphergoth> that was what I read! anyway, removed 2010-07-09 16:54:06 < ciphergoth> I have to go home now but many many thanks for valuable help! 2010-07-09 16:54:43 -!- AmberJ (Amber Jain) [amberj@support.team.at.shellium.org] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 16:54:55 < SynrG> i don't see how it would give that error though 2010-07-09 16:55:19 < SynrG> ciphergoth: for further help be ready with a log. my auto/build script automatically makes one 2010-07-09 16:55:23 < SynrG> later 2010-07-09 16:55:24 -!- AmberJ [amberj@support.team.at.shellium.org] has quit [] 2010-07-09 18:27:29 -!- juliank [~juliank@p5B252882.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2010-07-09 19:02:42 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 19:23:13 -!- d0rt [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-09 21:09:35 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 21:46:09 < SynrG> dba: so ... what about that hacked cdrom-detect? another weekend is upon us and i'm itching to get this solved. or at least help someone solve it, since i haven't a clue what's wrong or how to approach the problem :) 2010-07-09 21:46:48 < dba> SynrG: right, i completely forgot about that, bummer 2010-07-09 21:46:50 < SynrG> sadly, my eeepc 1001px didn't arrive today, so i'm going to have to find some other way to entertain myself 2010-07-09 21:47:11 < dba> i'll prepare the stuff soon (this evening, in a couple of hours) 2010-07-09 21:47:16 < SynrG> awesome 2010-07-09 21:48:03 < SynrG> btw, up until now i have been using a 686 flavour system for all of my builds, but i'm planning to install amd64 on my 1001px ... 2010-07-09 21:48:40 < SynrG> one of the things i might do on the 1001px is use it for an occasional live image build (if it doesn't totally take forever ;) 2010-07-09 21:48:55 < SynrG> the question is, since most of my target audience is 686 ... 2010-07-09 21:49:05 < SynrG> can i use it for a 686 flavour build or just amd64? 2010-07-09 21:49:25 < SynrG> would i need to install a 686-flavour kernel on it or something? or dual-boot it amd64/686? 2010-07-09 21:49:51 < dba> you're wondering if you can build the i386/686 images on an amd64 system? 2010-07-09 21:49:55 < SynrG> yes 2010-07-09 21:50:04 < dba> s/system/system running an amd64 distribution/ 2010-07-09 21:50:08 < dba> that's not a problem at all. 2010-07-09 21:50:20 < dba> lh autodetects the arch, means, it will default to amd64 on amd64, 2010-07-09 21:50:29 < dba> but if you do lh config -a i386, it will build i386 just fine 2010-07-09 21:50:44 < SynrG> excellent 2010-07-09 21:51:03 < SynrG> i might migrate my other amd64-capable systems over, then 2010-07-09 21:51:21 < dba> sure :) 2010-07-09 21:51:46 < SynrG> i have a low-end core duo system, and an amd 64 X2 dual 2010-07-09 21:51:52 < dba> there's one single thing that i could image that would not work as expected, 2010-07-09 21:52:07 < dba> (but the fix is, if needed, a two liner that i've already in mind): 2010-07-09 21:52:49 < dba> if you install java, and if you install a package that runs some java in their postinst, 2010-07-09 21:53:13 < dba> there's a 1% chance that it might fail because of needing the linux32 chroot hack 2010-07-09 21:53:29 < SynrG> hmm 2010-07-09 21:53:40 < dba> if it does need it, it's a two liner, so nothing to worry about. 2010-07-09 21:53:40 < SynrG> the java apps i depend on primarily are ... 2010-07-09 21:53:43 < SynrG> netbeans 6.8 2010-07-09 21:53:56 < SynrG> and freemind 2010-07-09 21:53:58 < dba> but if it doesn't needs it, which is what i think, then the build will do just find. 2010-07-09 21:54:15 < dba> for neither one of those you'll need to execute java stuff during package installation, 2010-07-09 21:54:18 < dba> so you'll be fine anyway. 2010-07-09 21:54:31 < SynrG> but if you're just talking about live builds ... 2010-07-09 21:54:45 < SynrG> i don't think i've built any images with java stuff in them 2010-07-09 21:54:49 < dba> it's only a built-time issue, not a run-time thing, don't worry. 2010-07-09 21:54:53 < SynrG> ok 2010-07-09 21:55:23 < SynrG> no current images anyway 2010-07-09 21:56:18 < SynrG> what is this "linux32 chroot hack" of which you speak? 2010-07-09 21:56:30 < dba> if you chroot on a amd64 system to an i386 system, 2010-07-09 21:56:35 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.198.115] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 21:56:37 < dba> the uname -r etc. will report an amd64 system. 2010-07-09 21:56:58 < dba> (because it's just a chroot and no further abstraction whatsoever) 2010-07-09 21:57:07 < SynrG> yes 2010-07-09 21:57:25 < dba> s/uname -r/uname -m/ 2010-07-09 21:57:41 < dba> if it happens to be that the package (or the software) relays on the 'correct' output of uname -m, 2010-07-09 21:57:49 < dba> then it can fail in some rare cases. 2010-07-09 21:57:51 < SynrG> alias uname to pipe it to sed? 2010-07-09 21:58:17 < dba> if it does, then you just enter the chroot with the linux32 call 2010-07-09 21:58:21 < dba> (see linux32 package) 2010-07-09 21:58:50 < dba> that tells the chroot process to return different values for uname -m, and everyone is happy again. 2010-07-09 21:58:59 < dba> but i would perefere to not do it unless it's absolutely required 2010-07-09 21:59:16 < dba> (because no software should fail on uname -m anyway at package install time) 2010-07-09 21:59:46 < dba> but as said.. if it's the case that we still have such broken hardware, the workaround is better than to fail, and i'll add it. 2010-07-09 21:59:52 < dba> s/hardware/software/ 2010-07-09 22:02:17 < SynrG> i see 2010-07-09 22:02:48 < SynrG> well, java in a postinst would be uncommon, i hope 2010-07-09 22:03:05 < dba> jup 2010-07-09 22:03:20 < SynrG> and it's not just java in a postinst, but java accessing uname -m in a postinst, hm? 2010-07-09 22:03:25 < SynrG> so even less common 2010-07-09 22:06:28 < dba> that was one of the last cases where it fails, but that's a couple of years ago 2010-07-09 22:06:56 < dba> i don't think it's happening anymore since lenny. 2010-07-09 22:11:53 < dba> SynrG: btw, how much did you pay for your new eeepc? 2010-07-09 22:15:13 < SynrG> 290 CAD 2010-07-09 22:16:48 < dba> .oO(cad and chf have been traditionall almost always been ~1:~1) 2010-07-09 22:18:39 < SynrG> ah 2010-07-09 22:18:50 < SynrG> it's a good price, i think 2010-07-09 22:18:57 < SynrG> for such a nice looking machine 2010-07-09 22:19:04 < dba> looks spec wise identical to my ideapad s10-3, except that mine doesn't have 64bit (i think :) 2010-07-09 22:20:19 < dba> ignore that, mine does support 64bit too 2010-07-09 22:22:02 < SynrG> price of the ideapad s10-3? 2010-07-09 22:34:53 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-09 23:19:54 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-137-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-09 23:20:54 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-137-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 23:22:40 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-137-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [] 2010-07-09 23:23:31 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-137-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-09 23:52:26 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-137-156.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Day changed Sat Jul 10 2010 2010-07-10 00:03:49 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-10 00:14:15 -!- mictlan_1 (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.143.121] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 00:16:02 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.198.115] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-10 00:26:25 < SynrG> dba: cdrom-detect? i have about another half hr before i turn in for the evening 2010-07-10 00:48:46 -!- mictlan_1 [~mictlan@189.188.143.121] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-10 00:58:58 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.143.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-10 01:00:38 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-10 01:03:50 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 01:57:35 < dba> SynrG: sorry, just came back (from supermarkt and dinner), will prepare cdrom-detect now 2010-07-10 01:57:58 < dba> will put it to live.debian.net/other/cdrom-detect so that you can have a look at it tomorrow 2010-07-10 01:58:31 < dba> re ideapad, it's quite a bit more expensive than the 1001px, it's about 350chf 2010-07-10 01:58:55 < dba> you can have a look at it if you want at debconf, i've got all of 'em (s10, s10-2, s10-3) with me. 2010-07-10 03:18:04 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.143.121] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2010-07-10 07:04:50 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 08:02:32 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-142-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 09:13:44 < SynrG> dba: cool. sure, would love to have a look. as for that price, i got a bit of a deal because i got it through distribution at work. a typical price would b e closer to 330 or 340 2010-07-10 09:50:51 < SynrG> re cdrom-detect, guess you didn't get to it as it doesn't appear to be at http://live.debian.net/other/cdrom-detect 2010-07-10 10:25:54 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 10:56:19 -!- juliank (Julian Andres Klode) [~juliank@p5B25210C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 11:25:46 -!- juliank [~juliank@p5B25210C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-10 12:17:21 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-10 12:38:01 < dba> SynrG: i've looked at the things, but it doesn't look as i expected it. 2010-07-10 12:38:48 < dba> SynrG: what happened when you started d-i with cdrom-detect/try-usb 2010-07-10 12:38:59 < dba> did it work then? 2010-07-10 12:40:46 < SynrG> i have an image with this option. what happens is it fails to find a CD-ROM device 2010-07-10 12:40:54 < SynrG> my hardware lacks one 2010-07-10 12:41:02 < SynrG> then it forces me to choose one 2010-07-10 12:41:17 < SynrG> i then have to tell it not to load drivers from external media 2010-07-10 12:41:24 < SynrG> then tell it to load drivers and select 'none' 2010-07-10 12:41:42 < SynrG> then i have to specify the usb device (e.g. /dev/sdb) 2010-07-10 12:42:04 < SynrG> or /dev/sdb1 or whatever. i forget 2010-07-10 12:42:10 < dba> ok 2010-07-10 12:42:12 < dba> got it 2010-07-10 12:44:11 < dba> so it's list-devices() which needs fixing. 2010-07-10 12:44:26 < dba> have to lookup which component contains it.. 2010-07-10 12:45:03 < SynrG> ah. so i guess it's failing before it even gets to the try-usb bit? 2010-07-10 12:45:14 < dba> debian-installer-utils. 2010-07-10 12:48:06 < dba> ok, should be simple. 2010-07-10 12:49:38 < SynrG> good 2010-07-10 12:50:16 < dba> we'll need to boot d-i, then before it looks for the cdrom, 2010-07-10 12:50:40 < dba> we'll need to add a set -x in /bin/list-devices 2010-07-10 12:50:52 < SynrG> ok 2010-07-10 12:50:54 < dba> and watch why it fails do detect it 2010-07-10 12:50:57 < SynrG> sure 2010-07-10 12:51:05 < dba> the fix then should be pretty easy 2010-07-10 12:51:18 < dba> s/do/to/ 2010-07-10 12:51:34 < SynrG> so i can override this by dropping the modified file into binary_local-includes or some such? 2010-07-10 12:51:40 < SynrG> or ... needs to be repacked in a udeb? 2010-07-10 12:51:41 < dba> no 2010-07-10 12:51:51 < dba> that thing is inside the initrd. 2010-07-10 12:52:03 < dba> we can only override stuff, that is not in the d-i initrd 2010-07-10 12:52:23 < SynrG> that's a pain. would be nice to have some simple way to mess with its innards 2010-07-10 12:52:29 < dba> which reminds me: we should have a generic hook to redo the d-i initrd exactely for that 2010-07-10 12:52:43 < dba> (there's already one for replacing the banner.png in g-i, so it's simple to adapt) 2010-07-10 12:52:53 * SynrG ndos 2010-07-10 12:52:55 * SynrG nods too 2010-07-10 12:53:21 < dba> i'll catching up watching news, and after breakfast, i'll do first the initrd repack thing in live-helper, 2010-07-10 12:53:32 < dba> and afterwards have a look at the list-devices thing. 2010-07-10 12:55:03 < SynrG> cool. thanks 2010-07-10 12:55:24 < SynrG> one of my daughters had a sleepover last night, so i'm just puttering about the house and being part-time entertainment director 2010-07-10 12:55:41 < SynrG> with luck i will have some time between things to test things out 2010-07-10 13:35:23 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 14:03:57 -!- monkey_d_luffy (monkey_d_luffy) [~monkey_d_@co3-84-90-131-143.netvisao.pt] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 14:08:11 < monkey_d_luffy> I'm using debian-live-60alpha1-amd64-kde-desktop.iso and when I boot into live mode and run the live-installet-launcher in "text expert mode", it fails to "Detect and mount cd-rom" 2010-07-10 14:09:24 < SynrG> it's not ready yet 2010-07-10 14:09:37 < SynrG> we're working on it 2010-07-10 14:09:48 < monkey_d_luffy> oh ok, thanks 2010-07-10 14:09:52 < SynrG> try booting the installer instead 2010-07-10 14:11:13 < monkey_d_luffy> ok, I'll do that 2010-07-10 14:12:22 < SynrG> i've mostly worked with more recent images, so i'm not sure what state the installer is in on the alpha tho 2010-07-10 14:12:29 < SynrG> it's some months old now 2010-07-10 14:14:18 < monkey_d_luffy> yes, I've noticed the date 2010-07-10 14:14:32 < monkey_d_luffy> about this issue: iso-hybrid images with debian-installer don't work from block devices (e.g. usb sticks) any updates? 2010-07-10 14:14:56 < monkey_d_luffy> this was in http://live.debian.net/project/status/ 2010-07-10 14:15:56 < dba> monkey_d_luffy: we'll hope to fix the iso-hybrid thing today 2010-07-10 14:17:06 < monkey_d_luffy> great news then 2010-07-10 14:29:15 < monkey_d_luffy> mmm "text rescue" doesn't seem to be working with this build. I press enter and it freezes. 2010-07-10 14:29:43 < SynrG> unsurprising. well 2010-07-10 14:30:01 < SynrG> if your goal is just to install squeeze + kde, then use a debian-installer snapshot 2010-07-10 14:30:34 < SynrG> the daily build, i mean 2010-07-10 14:31:37 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.143.121] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 14:36:24 < monkey_d_luffy> kind of... right now I'm just playing with it in a VM and trying some things. 2010-07-10 14:36:38 < monkey_d_luffy> I couldn't find the daily builds here: http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/ 2010-07-10 14:36:51 < monkey_d_luffy> am I looking in the wrong place? 2010-07-10 14:45:09 < dba> besides that this is d-i and not debian-live, so we ultimatively have no influence on that anyway, 2010-07-10 14:45:23 < dba> what makes you think that the images are not on that url? i'll see them. 2010-07-10 14:48:55 < dba> SynrG: stupid me, there's already a repack mechanism for random includes: 2010-07-10 14:48:56 < dba> config/binary_debian-installer-includes 2010-07-10 15:07:48 < monkey_d_luffy> is it known if the older versions support the rescue mode? and would the rescue mode allow me to start installing from the shell, without having to reboot? 2010-07-10 15:08:05 < monkey_d_luffy> I couldn't find the daily build of debian-live 2010-07-10 15:08:15 < dba> d-i is debian-installer 2010-07-10 15:08:31 < dba> debian-live images are on live.debian.net/cdimage 2010-07-10 15:08:47 < dba> however, there are no dailies atm, you have to build them yourself, see topic. 2010-07-10 15:18:14 -!- juliank (Julian Andres Klode) [~juliank@p5B25210C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 15:33:42 < dba> building d-i test image now.. 2010-07-10 15:38:18 < monkey_d_luffy> ok now I'm confused... a d-i image or a debian live image? 2010-07-10 15:38:34 < monkey_d_luffy> I'm looking into the manual now, the persistent feature seems really cool 2010-07-10 15:41:10 < monkey_d_luffy> but I kind of have an "egg and chicken" problem. the partition needs to be attached on the system at bootime... what about if the partition is encrypted? :( 2010-07-10 15:41:53 < dba> encrypted persistency is kind of not really well integrated into debian-live. 2010-07-10 15:44:37 -!- otavio [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-10 15:45:43 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-10 15:47:12 < lindi-> dba: thanks a lot for making debian live frontend mail the configuration used to build an image 2010-07-10 15:50:36 < dba> lindi-: welcome :) 2010-07-10 15:51:44 < dba> (i don't remember who did it though, me or richard, so maybe i'm the wrong person to thank) 2010-07-10 15:52:05 < lindi-> I don't remember it either but it's a must-have feature 2010-07-10 15:53:15 < lindi-> dba: is there some way to have the livecd configured to use e.g. ftp.fi.debian.org by default? it has localhost selected in the web UI and it's greyed out 2010-07-10 15:59:04 < dba> lindi-: the problem with allowing custom mirrors is a legal one 2010-07-10 15:59:58 < dba> allowing the binary mirrors to be set should be possible now that i think of it. 2010-07-10 15:59:59 < lindi-> dba: really? 2010-07-10 16:00:35 < lindi-> dba: you can build it from localhost mirror but when I boot it and install packages I'd like it to default to ftp.fi.debian.org 2010-07-10 16:01:03 < lindi-> it doesn't make much sense for me to have to configure apt every single time... 2010-07-10 16:03:03 -!- juliank [~juliank@p5B25210C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Verlassend] 2010-07-10 16:05:51 < SynrG> dba: re installer includes, cool 2010-07-10 16:06:07 < SynrG> dba: so i can just add the set-x in there? 2010-07-10 16:06:09 < SynrG> set -x 2010-07-10 16:11:45 < dba> you could, yes 2010-07-10 16:11:52 < dba> .oO(my image is still building) 2010-07-10 16:18:23 < dba> now ready to test.. 2010-07-10 16:23:29 < mictlan> lindi-: yo can do that in config/chroot_sources no? 2010-07-10 16:23:55 < mictlan> unless im misunderstandding the issue 2010-07-10 16:29:56 < SynrG> dba: ah. i've been tied up. ok ... 2010-07-10 16:30:38 < SynrG> dba: what do i need to try it out? in 15 minutes our movie ends and i go out for errands ... between times i will be able to login remotely and build and stuff 2010-07-10 16:30:40 < dba> this is fun, it's not a problem in d-i 2010-07-10 16:30:46 < dba> it's a problem in busybox 2010-07-10 16:30:48 < SynrG> oh! 2010-07-10 16:31:24 < dba> or rather.. let me explain. 2010-07-10 16:31:52 < dba> when we have a iso-hybrid image, it tries to mount /dev/sdb1 (which is my usb stick) as vfat 2010-07-10 16:31:58 < dba> but it's not vfat, it's iso9960 2010-07-10 16:32:32 < dba> in a perfect world, d-i would call 'mount' with the '-t' option of the filesystem, 2010-07-10 16:33:00 < dba> however, busybox requests always a -t, since its mount code can (apparently) not guess the filesystem time. 2010-07-10 16:33:20 < dba> so, as a quick workaround, we can do a ||true for vfat, and try it too with iso9660 or so 2010-07-10 16:33:24 < SynrG> right 2010-07-10 16:33:49 < dba> i'll come up with something semi-smart that you can verify and that we can use in the meanwhile. 2010-07-10 16:34:13 < dba> i'll ask otavio later on how to do it properly and propose a patch to d-boot@ 2010-07-10 16:37:26 < SynrG> excellent 2010-07-10 16:37:31 < SynrG> thanks 2010-07-10 16:42:32 < SynrG> k, errands ... will pop in later, about a half hr 2010-07-10 16:42:46 < monkey_d_luffy> dba: regarding the encryption... What I'm really trying to do is have my partitions encrypted (without the need for plain-text /boot) and use debian-live either as (1) a /boot jumpstart with a full featured shell (in order to do the unencryption and mount) or as (2) my system with persistency. But currently it always seem to fall in the "egg before chicken" scenario. Any suggestions? 2010-07-10 16:45:45 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 16:46:13 < monkey_d_luffy> (rescue mode is not working at the moment so I can't try this part, but assuming it given a basic system...) it could be possible if I booted into rescue, decrypted the partition (I'm using truecrypt), and then jump back to the initial menu without rebooting o.O 2010-07-10 16:46:28 < monkey_d_luffy> *it gives a basic system 2010-07-10 16:53:28 < dba> SynrG: fixed! 2010-07-10 16:58:10 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.143.121] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-10 16:58:32 < lindi-> mikap: i'm talking about the web interface 2010-07-10 16:58:55 < lindi-> what, he parted right when I was replying and this gprs lag made irssi autocomplete the wrong nick 2010-07-10 17:21:55 < monkey_d_luffy> any suggestions regarding what I said? Is it something that is doable, or is it 100% impossible in all circunstances because...? 2010-07-10 17:24:45 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: hmm. i'm not sure if you really want to use live for this. why not just copy your /boot to usb stick? 2010-07-10 17:28:43 < monkey_d_luffy> the idea is to avoid any trace of an encrypted system, so a live system for booting and decrypting is the only solution I think 2010-07-10 17:29:58 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: ah hmm 2010-07-10 17:30:10 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: now that you have mentioned it on IRC you have already lost :) 2010-07-10 17:31:27 < monkey_d_luffy> that doesn't prove anything lindi- :p 2010-07-10 17:31:51 < monkey_d_luffy> I'm just trying to see if this is possible to do or not. 2010-07-10 17:32:09 < lindi-> surely it is 2010-07-10 17:32:37 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: you might need to type a few commands every time you boot though 2010-07-10 17:33:54 < monkey_d_luffy> that wouldn't be much of a problem... and maybe someday debian-live would include scripts for that in /bin :) 2010-07-10 17:34:09 < dba> if you submit them, sure 2010-07-10 17:34:21 < monkey_d_luffy> that would be sweet 2010-07-10 17:34:35 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: plausible-deniability-for-monkey_d_luffy? ;) 2010-07-10 17:34:43 < monkey_d_luffy> ahah 2010-07-10 17:36:04 < monkey_d_luffy> I'll just have to code them first... which I have no idea since I'm stuck. If I choose the text install I have access to busybox, but that isn't enough for me to decrypt my system 2010-07-10 17:36:09 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: easiest way: 2010-07-10 17:36:15 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: 1) boot livecd normally 2010-07-10 17:36:46 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: 2) write the command to mount the encrypted hdd to /mnt 2010-07-10 17:37:00 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: 3) run /mnt/kexec.sh 2010-07-10 17:37:30 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: in kexec.sh you have a command to kexec() your kernel and initramfs from the /mnt. the initramfs then has the encryption keys so that it does not need to ask for them again 2010-07-10 17:37:50 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: this way you can change kernel of your system without having to update the livecd 2010-07-10 17:41:15 < monkey_d_luffy> RTFM about kexec, I had no idea that existed. That method is really kick ass. I shall name it the lindi-method-for-plausible-deniability :) 2010-07-10 17:42:53 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: my shell history entries from a few years ago: kexec -l /mnt/snapshot/0/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.18-5-486 --append="`cat /proc/cmdline`" --initrd=/mnt/snapshot/0/boot/initrd.img-2.6.18-5-486 && kexec -e 2010-07-10 17:43:43 < monkey_d_luffy> Now the only thing that it's missing is the ability to install linux from the live session (because the partition has to be decrypted/mounted before installation can occur). But has it was said a while ago by SynrG that's not ready yet. But all of this will be really cool when it works :) 2010-07-10 17:44:25 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: you can start the installer from livecd afaik 2010-07-10 17:47:37 < monkey_d_luffy> lindi-: I tested that with the debian-live-60alpha1-amd64-kde-desktop.iso image and when I run the live-installet-launcher in "text expert mode", it fails to "Detect and mount cd-rom" 2010-07-10 17:48:18 < dba> monkey_d_luffy: as said previously, don't use the launcher on the alpha1 images 2010-07-10 17:48:18 < monkey_d_luffy> I asked here about it and: it's not ready yet we're working on it Maybe I'm missing something? 2010-07-10 17:48:25 < dba> start the installer from the boot menu. 2010-07-10 17:50:13 < SynrG> dba: cool. will try it when i get home 2010-07-10 17:53:01 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: that sounds like a bug yes 2010-07-10 17:53:10 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: use non-alpha1 image? ;) 2010-07-10 17:53:30 < monkey_d_luffy> dba: If I start from the boot menu I won't be able to decrypt the partitions, because I can't decrypt it with busybox. But has this problem fixed in newer versions? If so I'll try to build my own debian-live image. 2010-07-10 17:53:43 < monkey_d_luffy> yes, I can try an older one too 2010-07-10 17:53:59 < dba> monkey_d_luffy: err? you want to install, you use debian-installer. 2010-07-10 17:54:15 < dba> monkey_d_luffy: it doesn't matter if you call it from the desktop, or from the boot menu wrt/ installation. 2010-07-10 17:54:36 < lindi-> dba: he wants to setup custom encryption parameters before installation I guess 2010-07-10 17:54:52 < dba> they would not help wrt/ d-i. 2010-07-10 17:58:00 < monkey_d_luffy> dba: ok, so I turned on the VM and booted into live mode. How do I call the installation without using the launcher? What command am I supposed to run instead of live-installer-launcher ? 2010-07-10 17:58:01 < lindi-> dba: ah, it can not install to an existing directory but insists on being able to mount it itself? 2010-07-10 17:58:39 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: you can step 1 & 2 and then use debootstrap to install debian 2010-07-10 17:58:50 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: you need to do a bit of manual configuration after that 2010-07-10 17:59:36 < dba> monkey_d_luffy: none; you select 'Text install' at the boot prompt. 2010-07-10 17:59:47 < dba> lindi-: of course. 2010-07-10 18:00:12 < dba> lindi-: if you want d-i to support that, debian-boot@l.d.o and #debian-boot is your friend. 2010-07-10 18:00:12 < lindi-> I'd love to have d-i that behaved like debootstrap :) 2010-07-10 18:00:51 < lindi-> it's always been unclear to me what d-i really does more than debootstrap 2010-07-10 18:06:48 < monkey_d_luffy> dba: but that doesn't allow me to decrypt the system before I install it, because I can't run truecrypt from busybox. that is the problem. When the launcher problem is fixed, that will be possible. 2010-07-10 18:07:02 < monkey_d_luffy> I'll look into debootstrap 2010-07-10 18:16:28 < CIA-11> daniel * r3f58950 wiki-content/project/status.mdwn: Updating status on d-i isohybrids on project status page. 2010-07-10 18:19:59 < dba> SynrG: see http://live.debian.net/other/cdrom-detect/ and you'll be happy :) 2010-07-10 18:20:52 < dba> monkey_d_luffy: build your own sid image, with d-i daily, and call the launcher from a terminal application (not from icon) 2010-07-10 18:20:58 < dba> monkey_d_luffy: that should work. 2010-07-10 18:27:19 < monkey_d_luffy> dba: ok, I'll look into that as well (right now I'm trying debootstrap from a live session). Does it need to be sid or can it be squeeze? What do you mean by d-i daily? 2010-07-10 18:31:21 < dba> d-i and the live system need to use the same kernel 2010-07-10 18:31:51 < dba> so you have to find a combination of --distribution and --debian-installer-distribution that use the same kerenl version. 2010-07-10 18:37:15 < monkey_d_luffy> mmm ok 2010-07-10 18:44:43 < SynrG> dba: ok. thanks 2010-07-10 18:44:49 < SynrG> 10m or so 2010-07-10 18:46:09 < dba> SynrG: and dont forget to also use cdrom-detect/try-usb=true 2010-07-10 18:56:28 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 19:00:34 < SynrG> ya 2010-07-10 19:05:15 < SynrG> dba: i assume i need to chmod 755? 2010-07-10 19:05:26 < SynrG> dba: if so, the README should mention it 2010-07-10 19:06:05 < dba> SynrG: i thought it's obvious (since it's not intended to be used by people anyway) 2010-07-10 19:06:14 < SynrG> k 2010-07-10 19:06:14 < dba> SynrG: and cdrom-detect has the fix in svn now. 2010-07-10 19:06:19 < SynrG> excellent 2010-07-10 19:06:34 < SynrG> not by people, hm? just cylons? 2010-07-10 19:06:44 < dba> by people at large 2010-07-10 19:07:01 < dba> but by people like you ;) 2010-07-10 19:07:08 < SynrG> right. cylons. 2010-07-10 19:07:37 < SynrG> i'll be testing just plain .img first 2010-07-10 19:07:48 < SynrG> the .iso-hybrid 2010-07-10 19:07:50 < SynrG> then* 2010-07-10 19:09:12 < dba> .oO(next issue is.. after i've added extlinux support; what happens if i do the same things from an ext? partition? :)) 2010-07-10 19:11:27 -!- franklin_ (Franklin PIAT) [~fpiat@klabs.be] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 19:17:13 -!- franklin [~fpiat@klabs.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-10 19:25:07 < SynrG> dba: rats. just as before: "No common CD-ROM drive was found" or some such 2010-07-10 19:27:36 < SynrG> binary:LH_BOOTAPPEND_INSTALL="cdrom-detect/try-usb=true" 2010-07-10 19:27:40 < dba> SynrG: i've not tested img at all, so i'm not surprisied. 2010-07-10 19:27:50 < dba> i've only looked and fixed isohybrid. 2010-07-10 19:27:51 < SynrG> so, onwards to .iso-hybrid 2010-07-10 19:27:53 < SynrG> k 2010-07-10 19:28:15 < SynrG> so i can just lh clean --binary and reconfigure for iso-hybrid now? 2010-07-10 19:28:36 < SynrG> or are there leftovers from the last build that might taint my test? 2010-07-10 19:29:46 < dba> yes; no. 2010-07-10 19:30:10 < dba> a simple 'lh clean --binary && lh config -b iso-hybrid && lh binary' should do it. 2010-07-10 19:30:11 < SynrG> ok. building 2010-07-10 19:30:16 < SynrG> yup 2010-07-10 19:30:28 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@wsip-98-174-58-17.pn.at.cox.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 19:30:51 < dba> SynrG: i can have a look at .img later; i just wanted to say that this was not what i looked into. 2010-07-10 19:31:25 < SynrG> sure. 2010-07-10 19:35:34 < SynrG> hm. what's this at the end? 2010-07-10 19:35:36 < SynrG> P: Begin building binary iso image... 2010-07-10 19:35:36 < SynrG> mv: cannot stat `binary': No such file or directory 2010-07-10 19:35:53 < dba> doesn't look good, hmm. 2010-07-10 19:36:40 < SynrG> strange. shall i 'lh clean' and start afresh? 2010-07-10 19:36:56 < SynrG> maybe due to use of auto somehow 2010-07-10 19:37:01 < SynrG> probably a bug in my auto scripts 2010-07-10 19:37:08 < SynrG> that prevents partial builds 2010-07-10 19:37:57 < SynrG> starting a fresh build, then. will look into the auto bug later. probably auto/clean's fault 2010-07-10 19:39:28 < SynrG> can't see the problem tho :p 2010-07-10 19:40:22 < dba> could be an auto problem, yes 2010-07-10 19:41:06 < SynrG> argh, damn 2010-07-10 19:41:15 < SynrG> iso-hybrid doesn't default the right option 2010-07-10 19:41:16 < SynrG> sec 2010-07-10 19:41:55 < dba> hm? 2010-07-10 19:42:09 < SynrG> --bootappend-live 2010-07-10 19:42:25 < SynrG> doesn't set cdrom-detect/try-usb=true like usb does 2010-07-10 19:42:40 < dba> i know 2010-07-10 19:42:42 < SynrG> err 2010-07-10 19:42:46 < SynrG> i mean --bootappend-install 2010-07-10 19:42:51 < dba> that's why i said you need to not forget to set it 2010-07-10 19:42:58 < SynrG> yes. but i just finished a .img build 2010-07-10 19:43:01 < SynrG> which does set it 2010-07-10 19:43:03 < SynrG> so ... 2010-07-10 19:43:05 < SynrG> i forgot :) 2010-07-10 19:43:23 < SynrG> i just remembered now a couple of minutes into the build tho 2010-07-10 19:43:33 < dba> heh 2010-07-10 19:43:49 < dba> i'll test the .img thing later on too, 2010-07-10 19:44:23 < dba> if it stuff works with that, then we might set cdom-detect/try-usb=true for both img and iso-hybrid. 2010-07-10 19:44:48 < SynrG> yup 2010-07-10 19:45:20 < dba> and after that, i'll add extlinux support in lh, and after that, i'll make sure d-i works from ext* partitions. 2010-07-10 19:45:24 < dba> .oO(too much todo...) 2010-07-10 19:51:22 < SynrG> and new cdrom-detect uploaded too. that was fast 2010-07-10 19:54:48 < dba> only the best for SynrG :) 2010-07-10 19:55:31 < SynrG> and again: 2010-07-10 19:55:33 < SynrG> P: Begin building binary iso image... 2010-07-10 19:55:33 < SynrG> mv: cannot stat `binary': No such file or directory 2010-07-10 19:55:33 < SynrG> P: Begin unmounting filesystems... 2010-07-10 19:55:35 < SynrG> crap 2010-07-10 19:55:41 < SynrG> that was after 'lh clean' first 2010-07-10 19:55:47 < dba> well.. 2010-07-10 19:55:53 < dba> what version of lh are you using? 2010-07-10 19:56:32 < SynrG> 2.0~a16-1 2010-07-10 19:57:15 < SynrG> crap 2010-07-10 19:57:17 < SynrG> i'm behind 2010-07-10 19:57:30 < SynrG> sid or sid-snapshots, then? 2010-07-10 19:57:49 * SynrG goes with sid-snapshots 2010-07-10 19:58:05 < dba> you need snapshots, because there was an update regarding isohybrid needed 2010-07-10 19:58:10 < SynrG> k 2010-07-10 19:58:11 < dba> (since syslinux 4 migrated to testing) 2010-07-10 19:58:15 < SynrG> good guess, then :) 2010-07-10 19:58:19 < SynrG> already rebuilding 2010-07-10 20:05:25 -!- kaduk (kaduk) [~mateusz@142-mi2-5.acn.waw.pl] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 20:05:29 < kaduk> Hi 2010-07-10 20:05:35 < kaduk> I have problem with building my live usb-hdd 2010-07-10 20:05:43 < dba> what problem exactely? 2010-07-10 20:05:56 < kaduk> not sure I dont see iso generated and no error in log 2010-07-10 20:06:10 < kaduk> dba, http://live-helper.debian.net/build/20100710.023937.278906664/ 2010-07-10 20:07:10 < kaduk> dba, I would like to have live system that I can run debian installer from if necessary with custom additional packages preinstalled 2010-07-10 20:07:50 < kaduk> dba, but the main purpose is to have it always with me on that usb stick or WD usb disk 2010-07-10 20:08:29 < dba> workaround: don't include win32-loader 2010-07-10 20:08:51 < dba> proper fix: lh needs an update because win32-loader did change yet again the location of its files 2010-07-10 20:08:57 < kaduk> dba, you mean select grub instead of syslinux ? 2010-07-10 20:09:14 < SynrG> --win32-loader false 2010-07-10 20:09:56 < kaduk> SynrG, there is no such a option in Web gui 2010-07-10 20:09:58 < SynrG> dba: incidentally this is set to true for my current build. so will i need to abort and fix and rebuild again? 2010-07-10 20:10:23 < dba> SynrG: no, just edit the config/* by hand; 2010-07-10 20:10:38 < dba> SynrG: if you do it before lh binary_win32-loader is called, then you don't need to abort. 2010-07-10 20:11:01 < kaduk> dba, also I could not build iso with aes encryption and I was getting errors that loop-aes-2.6-module is not available 2010-07-10 20:11:17 < dba> kaduk: then you need either to wait until we've updated it, or, build by hand. 2010-07-10 20:11:31 < dba> kaduk: loop-aes only works for lenny. 2010-07-10 20:11:48 < SynrG> dba: k 2010-07-10 20:11:55 < dba> kaduk: that was already explained to you on the mailinglist. 2010-07-10 20:12:00 < kaduk> dba, oh, thanks 2010-07-10 20:12:09 < SynrG> dba: nope. it has already set it up 2010-07-10 20:12:25 < kaduk> dba, I checked my email today and I havent seen any replay :\ 2010-07-10 20:12:30 < SynrG> dba: no apparent errors tho ... 2010-07-10 20:12:49 < kaduk> dba, sorry maybe I should have check the mailing list archive 2010-07-10 20:12:50 < SynrG> and did successfully build the .binary-iso 2010-07-10 20:13:12 < dba> kaduk: when you write to a mailinglist, you don't get personal reply unless you explicitly state that you want one. 2010-07-10 20:13:30 < dba> kaduk: people expect you to be either subscribed to the list, or check the archives manually from time to time. 2010-07-10 20:14:35 < kaduk> dba, I will check ml, and I will wait till things get fixed cause I dont know where to include this --win32-loader false command in webgui, its not burning thing, I just thought would be cool to have own debian installer with R enviroment preinstalled and some useful packages 2010-07-10 20:15:44 < dba> i don't have access to the machine, so you'll have to wait until unixabg is back. 2010-07-10 20:16:14 < kaduk> ok 2010-07-10 20:16:31 < kaduk> dba, should I pm him about it? 2010-07-10 20:16:59 < dba> no 2010-07-10 20:17:09 < kaduk> I am around for at least next 3 hours 2010-07-10 20:17:14 < kaduk> thanks for help 2010-07-10 20:25:12 < SynrG> hm, now live testing overlaps with dinner preparation 2010-07-10 20:25:14 -!- lxsameer (Sameer) [~lxsameer@109.110.171.114] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 20:25:59 < lxsameer> hi i have a issue with live-helper on testing , i install live-helper form sid but it still look for aufs-module-2.6 2010-07-10 20:26:37 < dba> if you didn't repopulate your config tree, then an update doesn't change anything. 2010-07-10 20:26:41 < lxsameer> i find a closed bug about it 2010-07-10 20:26:54 < lxsameer> dba: aha thanks 2010-07-10 20:26:55 < dba> or in other words: please repoulate a new config tree. 2010-07-10 20:27:05 < dba> and you might want to use this version instead, 2010-07-10 20:27:28 < lxsameer> dba: is there any way to update my configs without removing them ? 2010-07-10 20:27:29 < dba> the sid version doesn't cope with the migrated syslinux 4 packages for isohybrid yet, 2010-07-10 20:27:47 < dba> upload of new lh follows in a couple of minutes, however, you can use this in the meanwhile: 2010-07-10 20:28:05 < dba> http://live.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/live-helper/live-helper_2.0~a17+20100708.001409_all.deb 2010-07-10 20:29:07 < lxsameer> dba: hmmmmmmmmmm , is it ok to use just the sid version ? 2010-07-10 20:29:35 < dba> read again what i just wrote above. 2010-07-10 20:30:45 < lxsameer> dba: i read that but i found nothing about my last question , so i can't understand the relation between them 2010-07-10 20:31:30 < dba> if you use the current sid version, and if you want to build an isohybrid image, 2010-07-10 20:31:37 < SynrG> dba: yay. works :) 2010-07-10 20:31:39 < SynrG> dba: many thanks 2010-07-10 20:31:45 < dba> and you build squeeze or sid, then it will not work. 2010-07-10 20:31:48 < dba> SynrG: great, thanks ;) 2010-07-10 20:31:49 < SynrG> now d-i is still failing on pppoe config 2010-07-10 20:31:57 < dba> haha 2010-07-10 20:32:01 < SynrG> but most testers should not be put off by that 2010-07-10 20:32:04 < dba> SynrG: what exactely? 2010-07-10 20:32:16 < SynrG> gives a red screen at that step 2010-07-10 20:32:16 < lxsameer> dba: ok thanks 2010-07-10 20:32:26 < SynrG> something about failing to detect a pppoe concentrator 2010-07-10 20:32:47 < SynrG> i want to go back and add live-installer-launcher though and retest 2010-07-10 20:33:01 < SynrG> i only tried booting directly to the installer so far 2010-07-10 20:36:26 < dba> SynrG: any help with the launcher would be really appreciated 2010-07-10 20:38:09 < SynrG> sure. whatever i can manage 2010-07-10 20:43:13 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r5a5bbcf live-helper/helpers/binary_iso: Updating package name for isohybrid, in syslinux 4 it's in syslinux instead of syslinux-common. 2010-07-10 20:43:14 < CIA-11> unixabg debian * r0281192 live-helper/cgi/cgi: Added REMOTE_ADDR to l-h.cgi log file. 2010-07-10 20:43:21 < CIA-11> unixabg debian * r61cfa06 live-helper/cgi/cron: Added logging features to l-h.cgi cron. 2010-07-10 20:43:23 < CIA-11> unixabg debian * r099646b live-helper/cgi/cron: Matching logging date format to apache to use log analyzers on l-h.cgi builds. 2010-07-10 20:43:26 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r90b1e0d live-helper/lists/gnome: Adding ubuntu specifics for system-config-printer in gnome list, thanks to Philippe Lel??dy . 2010-07-10 20:43:27 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r4223b86 live-helper/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.0. 2010-07-10 20:43:29 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rc935ce5 live-helper/helpers/binary_win32-loader: Copying win32-loader recursively to cope with another win32-loader file re-arangement. 2010-07-10 20:43:30 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r29bc7ef live-helper/helpers/chroot_hacks: Updating hacks to cope with gdm and gdm3 packages. 2010-07-10 20:43:33 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rf0574b6 live-helper/ (322 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a18-1. 2010-07-10 20:43:34 < CIA-11> daniel pristine-tar * re5cc6ad live-helper/ (2 files): Adding pristine-tar version 2.0~a18. 2010-07-10 20:43:38 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rf0574b6 live-helper/ (322 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a18-1. 2010-07-10 20:43:40 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rc935ce5 live-helper/helpers/binary_win32-loader: Copying win32-loader recursively to cope with another win32-loader file re-arangement. 2010-07-10 20:43:51 < CIA-11> daniel upstream * rf1a6aae live-helper/ (327 files in 8 dirs): Adding upstream version 2.0~a18. 2010-07-10 20:44:25 < SynrG> dba: cdrom-detect rejected, argh 2010-07-10 20:47:29 < dba> SynrG: that wasn't mine i think 2010-07-10 20:49:30 < dba> someone apparently just uploaded it after i did 2010-07-10 20:49:46 < dba> i've checked the one in incoming.d.o, and that signed with my key. 2010-07-10 20:50:47 < lxsameer> dba: hmmmmmm , i install that deb that you given me , but it still look for aufs-modules-2.6-amd64, but i'm in testing 2010-07-10 20:52:33 < dba> lxsameer: as i said, you need to repopulate your config tree. 2010-07-10 20:52:59 < lxsameer> dba: i do that too 2010-07-10 20:53:05 < lxsameer> *did 2010-07-10 20:53:35 < monkey_d_luffy> lindi-: are you there? 2010-07-10 20:53:48 < dba> lxsameer: how did you do it? 2010-07-10 20:54:34 < lxsameer> dba: starting a new config tree by lh config -b iso -a amd64 in a empty directory 2010-07-10 20:54:51 < dba> lxsameer: what does lh --version say? 2010-07-10 20:55:42 < lxsameer> dba: lh, version 2.0~a17-1 2010-07-10 20:56:00 < dba> lxsameer: then you're doing something else wrong. 2010-07-10 20:56:32 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: yes 2010-07-10 20:57:19 < lxsameer> dba: hmmmm at first a build a config tree with the above command and then change lenny to squeeze in configs and add my local repo to configs file, did i do wrong ? 2010-07-10 20:57:43 < SynrG> dba: aha. so yours went through successfully 2010-07-10 20:59:38 < lxsameer> dba: i change the LH_LINUX_PACKAGES like this but slh add a amd64 suffix to aufs-tools and can't find the right package 2010-07-10 20:59:40 < lxsameer> LH_LINUX_PACKAGES="linux-image-2.6 aufs-tools squashfs-modules-2.6" 2010-07-10 21:01:08 < BTS> live-helper 2.0~a18-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-helper 2010-07-10 21:01:10 < dba> lxsameer: some values are depending on others 2010-07-10 21:01:27 < dba> lxsameer: you can't change the distribution in the config without taking care about the dependent values. 2010-07-10 21:01:44 < dba> lxsameer: if you populate it with lenny, then youu've got autfs-modules-2.6 in there. 2010-07-10 21:01:46 < lxsameer> dba: hmmm, do you have any suggestion ? 2010-07-10 21:02:10 < dba> if you change to squeeze, aufs remains, since lh cannot know what you want (it should give a warning though iirc). 2010-07-10 21:02:28 < dba> well, populate for that distribution that you want to build for. 2010-07-10 21:02:38 < dba> if you want squeeze, then populate with squeeze and not with lenny. 2010-07-10 21:04:23 < lxsameer> dba: hmm, i can't understand you about populating , i changes the lenny strings in configs to squeeze , do you know any manual about populating again a suite ? 2010-07-10 21:04:33 < lxsameer> *against 2010-07-10 21:04:49 < dba> i don't understand your last question. 2010-07-10 21:05:31 < lxsameer> dba: is there any manual around about populating lh for a debian suite like testing or sid ? 2010-07-10 21:05:57 < dba> there's the manpage of lh_config 2010-07-10 21:07:46 < monkey_d_luffy> lindi-: I should have asked this first, but I didn't notice it... I just finished the debootstrap, chroot'ed and installed a kernel. But you said "the initramfs then has the encryption keys so that it does not need to ask for them again" But I don't think this will work for me. I'm using truecrypt and I'm reading a doc about kexec which says it unmounts disks before running the new kernel. I don't understand how 2010-07-10 21:07:48 < monkey_d_luffy> this will work 2010-07-10 21:10:47 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: what's unclear? 2010-07-10 21:11:39 < dba> unixabg: please update lh on l-h.d.n to >= 2.0~a18-1; has a fix for win32-loader that makes builds fail otherwise. 2010-07-10 21:14:03 < SynrG> dba: ok. when launched from live-installer-launcher, the cdrom thing fails again 2010-07-10 21:14:12 < SynrG> dba: probably because it's already mounted? 2010-07-10 21:15:03 < SynrG> hm, this image has live-installer-launcher version 15 2010-07-10 21:15:10 < SynrG> that doesn't have my fixed desktop file in it 2010-07-10 21:15:31 < monkey_d_luffy> lindi-: truecrypt is used to mount the crypted system. If I understood correctly, when I do kexec all processes are killed and all mount points unmounted, so I end up with a cyphertext partition again. How will the new kernel have the keys for the cypertext partition? 2010-07-10 21:15:45 < SynrG> dba: also, gdm didn't autologin :p 2010-07-10 21:16:11 < SynrG> dba: still using same settings as before (-r live.debian.net, minimal customization, just a couple of eeepc-specific packages and daily installer) 2010-07-10 21:16:28 < lxsameer> dba: i can't find any thing related to populating configs for a custom distribution in lh config man page 2010-07-10 21:20:45 < dba> lxsameer: how about '-d, --distribution'? 2010-07-10 21:20:45 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: the initramfs can contain the encryption key 2010-07-10 21:20:53 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: kexec loads kernel and initramfs to RAM 2010-07-10 21:20:59 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: so your keys can survive 2010-07-10 21:21:06 < lxsameer> dba: hmmmmmmmm not working 2010-07-10 21:21:37 < dba> 'not working' doesn't help, be specific. 2010-07-10 21:22:09 < lxsameer> dba: i get the aufs-module error 2010-07-10 21:23:05 < dba> 21:02:38 < dba> if you want squeeze, then populate with squeeze and not with lenny. 2010-07-10 21:23:44 < dba> SynrG: now testing .img 2010-07-10 21:26:12 < monkey_d_luffy> lindi-: "the initramfs can contain the encryption key" I don't understand how. Do I have to pass a parameter? But besides, even if it has the encryption key, truecrypt needs to be used to decrypt the partition, and truecrypt isn't a kernel module, but instead a standalone application run from shell. 2010-07-10 21:26:47 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: initramfs can contain truecrypt 2010-07-10 21:28:37 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: i don't know the details of truecrypt but i have used similar stuff a few years ago. i do understand kexec and initramfs quite well so that i am quite confident that this can be made to work pretty easily 2010-07-10 21:29:46 < dba> i think the general idea is fine and nice to have, however, 2010-07-10 21:29:57 < dba> i wouldn't even consider using truecrypt for a second for that. 2010-07-10 21:30:09 < dba> (or in general, i would not use truecrypt) 2010-07-10 21:31:41 < lindi-> best of all, this does not require any chances to live 2010-07-10 21:31:44 < lindi-> changes even 2010-07-10 21:32:54 < monkey_d_luffy> lindi-: I guess the problem was me not knowing exactly what initramfs was. So basically what I have to do is to create my own initramfs with the truecrypt application (and deps). 2010-07-10 21:33:30 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: what do you think initramfs is exactly now? 2010-07-10 21:33:41 -!- lxsameer [~lxsameer@109.110.171.114] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2010-07-10 21:35:55 < monkey_d_luffy> lindi-: :) it's a ramdisk filesystem that can include a small system like busybox 2010-07-10 21:36:09 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: it's a cpio archive 2010-07-10 21:36:16 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: cpio is bit like tar or zip 2010-07-10 21:36:31 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: so it's not a filesystem exactly 2010-07-10 21:36:51 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: but kernel unpacks it to a tmpfs and executes "/init" 2010-07-10 21:37:21 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: also, it can contain normal debian binaries, for example to configure software raid 2010-07-10 21:37:45 < monkey_d_luffy> I see 2010-07-10 21:38:10 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: it's pretty easy to add your own hooks to it 2010-07-10 21:38:13 < dba> SynrG: reproduced the failure with .img 2010-07-10 21:38:30 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: is truecrypt in debian at all? 2010-07-10 21:38:35 < dba> no 2010-07-10 21:39:00 < monkey_d_luffy> lindi-: no. It's open source, but there is an issue with the license IIRC 2010-07-10 21:39:25 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: so it's not really DFSG-free I suppose 2010-07-10 21:39:38 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: I'd use something that is in debian for this 2010-07-10 21:39:53 < dba> cryptsetup aka luks 2010-07-10 21:41:30 < dba> SynrG: ah, that's a simple one... on usb-hdd, we're not putting a .disk directory in (for whatever reason, i don't remember) 2010-07-10 21:41:38 < dba> SynrG: so that is wrong, will fix.. 2010-07-10 21:41:54 < SynrG> oh! cool 2010-07-10 21:42:12 < SynrG> dba: btw, why is Desktop owned by root? 2010-07-10 21:42:26 < monkey_d_luffy> I used loop-aes in the past, but when I upgraded my kernel my system got broken (that's what I get for using testing/unstable). My main idea for choosing truecrypt was that it has no kernel dependencies so to speak. 2010-07-10 21:42:31 < SynrG> ~user/Desktop i mean 2010-07-10 21:43:12 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rccfd76a live-helper/helpers/ (binary_disk source_disk): Also creating .disk meta information on usb images, otherwise debian-installer doesn't detect the installer media. 2010-07-10 21:43:28 < dba> SynrG: good question, don't know, will check after verifying above commit. 2010-07-10 21:43:49 < SynrG> k 2010-07-10 21:44:17 < SynrG> i discovered this trying to wget my .desktop file on top of the one in the image 2010-07-10 21:45:56 < monkey_d_luffy> lindi-: what would be the main reasons for "using something that is in debian for this" ? 2010-07-10 21:49:21 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: i could test it 2010-07-10 21:49:43 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: you would have more plausisble deniability 2010-07-10 21:49:54 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: since the encryption stuff would be standard debian stuff on a standard livecd 2010-07-10 21:50:10 < lindi-> instead of you haveing a custom encryption software package on a modified livecd 2010-07-10 21:51:03 < dba> apart from that: truecrypt quite sucks, isn't integrated well. so your resulting live image isn't well maintainable. 2010-07-10 21:54:41 < monkey_d_luffy> My idea never was to create a special livecd. I boot into the livecd, start iceweasel, download it and install. That takes 2-3 minutes. 2010-07-10 21:55:26 < dba> imho that's broken. 2010-07-10 21:56:13 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: that's very broken and leaves a trace :) 2010-07-10 21:56:30 < lindi-> in my solution you would not need internet 2010-07-10 21:56:41 < monkey_d_luffy> Ever since I lost that system to a bad upgrade I got a bit fearfull of anything that depends on a kernel module. But it was also a bad strategy from me because I only had one partition. 2010-07-10 21:56:55 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: did you report that as a bug? 2010-07-10 21:57:09 < monkey_d_luffy> why do you two say that that is broken? 2010-07-10 21:58:01 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: you would need to check the signatures 2010-07-10 22:04:49 < monkey_d_luffy> lindi-: (just checked with my email) I didn't submit a bug because I didn't knew where exactly the bug was, and I had to reinstall all my system and catch a plane in the next day (funny story). But I did send an email to debian-live because the live image had problems with loop-aes :) But I never did get a reply :p Now I remember why I was so inclined to go with truecrypt :p 2010-07-10 22:05:21 < lindi-> heh 2010-07-10 22:05:43 < lindi-> monkey_d_luffy: things don't improve without that bug report 2010-07-10 22:08:46 < monkey_d_luffy> I know. And I do tend to submit bug reports to debian when I find them. But that was a thight situation. I got so f'ing mad and had little time to get the laptop working back again. 2010-07-10 22:09:20 < dba> monkey_d_luffy: where's that mail? 2010-07-10 22:10:26 < dba> SynrG: above commit works, so currently, d-i (from boot menu) works on all flavours, yay :) 2010-07-10 22:11:07 < monkey_d_luffy> dba: I can resend it to you. What email should I sent it to? 2010-07-10 22:11:30 < monkey_d_luffy> I sent it to debian-live [AT] lists.debian.org 2010-07-10 22:11:35 < monkey_d_luffy> feb 16 2010-07-10 22:12:26 < dba> monkey_d_luffy: if you send it to the list, it's enough if you point me to the mail in the archive 2010-07-10 22:13:58 -!- adrian (adrian) [~adrian@77.210.210.30] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-10 22:14:00 -!- adrian is now known as adrian15b 2010-07-10 22:15:25 < monkey_d_luffy> dba: I was checking that info on my gmail. I now found the email in the mailing list and I did got a reply there, but it wasn't CC'ed to me, so I've only seen the email now. 2010-07-10 22:15:29 < monkey_d_luffy> http://lists.debian.org/debian-live/2010/02/msg00102.html 2010-07-10 22:16:25 < dba> 20:13:12 < dba> kaduk: when you write to a mailinglist, you don't get personal reply unless you explicitly state that you want one. 2010-07-10 22:16:25 < dba> 20:13:30 < dba> kaduk: people expect you to be either subscribed to the list, or check the archives manually from time to time. 2010-07-10 22:16:34 < dba> monkey_d_luffy: that above applies to you too. 2010-07-10 22:17:56 < monkey_d_luffy> ok I didn't knew 2010-07-10 22:20:44 < adrian15b> Does debian-live support loop-mounting an ISO so that I can save it into an usb stick and boot it from GRUB2? Any instructions on that? Thank you. 2010-07-10 22:23:28 < dba> we build dedicated usb images (for lenny) and iso-hybrid for squeeze and newer, 2010-07-10 22:24:07 < dba> no reason to do stuff by hand, just get, depending on the distribution you want, a usb-hdd or iso-hybrid and write that to the stick. 2010-07-10 22:27:20 < adrian15b> dba: I am interested in a iso-hybrid then. Squeeze is newer than lenny, isn't it? So I cannot build iso-hybrid images based on lenny, isn't it? 2010-07-10 22:28:27 < adrian15b> dba: I want to be able to build this iso-hybrid on my own because I am developing a debian live based distribution. 2010-07-10 22:41:25 < dba> adrian15b: squeeze is newer than lenny, yes. 2010-07-10 22:41:48 < dba> if you insist on lenny, you can do isohybrid too, but you'll need to use a syslinux backport 2010-07-10 22:42:23 < dba> if you use squeeze, you need -r live.debian.net while live-boot and live-config are blocked in NEW. 2010-07-10 22:42:28 < adrian15b> dba: Ok, let's suppose that I choose squeeze as my distribution base? Any documentation on what kernel parametres should I write so that the look for isos and mount as the filesystem root is performed ? 2010-07-10 22:42:57 < dba> i don't understand your last question. 2010-07-10 22:43:43 < adrian15b> dba: Well, I might have not explained myself 2010-07-10 22:44:01 < adrian15b> Let me search an sidux example 2010-07-10 22:45:07 < adrian15b> dba: Here you are. It is a bit old but it explains what I want to achieve: http://mgerards.net/blog/?p=16 2010-07-10 22:46:01 < dba> live-boot has fromiso too 2010-07-10 22:46:17 < adrian15b> dba: Currently in lenny too? 2010-07-10 22:46:38 < adrian15b> dba: Do you have any documentation or example on that ? 2010-07-10 22:46:45 < dba> lenny has live-initramfs, don't know about that. 2010-07-10 22:46:52 < dba> documentation for what *exactely*? 2010-07-10 22:47:03 < adrian15b> The kernel parametres 2010-07-10 22:47:07 < dba> s/about that/about that, offhand/ 2010-07-10 22:47:13 < dba> check live-boot manpage. 2010-07-10 22:47:21 < adrian15b> ok 2010-07-10 22:47:23 < dba> or live-initramfs manpage (for lenny). 2010-07-10 22:48:04 < adrian15b> I'll check both of them. Thank you for your time and patience. 2010-07-10 22:48:50 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-10 22:57:51 < SynrG> dba: awesome :) 2010-07-10 22:58:24 < kaduk> dba, hanks 2010-07-10 22:58:26 < kaduk> good night 2010-07-10 22:58:35 -!- kaduk [~mateusz@142-mi2-5.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-10 23:02:06 < SynrG> dba: is there a known issue with autologin with gdm? 2010-07-10 23:02:20 < SynrG> using snapshots? 2010-07-10 23:03:01 < SynrG> or perhaps gdm in particular used with lxde? 2010-07-10 23:03:23 < SynrG> i wonder if when you reenabled gdm if we forgot to fix some corresponding script to support it 2010-07-10 23:04:54 < SynrG> ah, hm. i'm not using lxde-desktop, just the lxde list 2010-07-10 23:05:55 < SynrG> i don't suppose it matters that the chroot_hacks lxde-desktop stuff isn't executed. that seems to be most important if more than one desktop environment is included in the same image 2010-07-10 23:06:13 < dba> SynrG: gdm on squeeze and live-config? 2010-07-10 23:06:52 < SynrG> yeah 2010-07-10 23:08:37 < dba> well, on >=squeeze you should not use gdm anyway, but gdm3. 2010-07-10 23:08:44 < dba> we discussed that some time ago already here in the channel. 2010-07-10 23:09:13 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@c90624ba.virtua.com.br] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2010-07-10 23:11:20 < SynrG> does the lxde metapackage need to be modified then? 2010-07-10 23:12:29 < SynrG> hm. if i specify it in my packages, i suppose it will supercede anything lxde recommends 2010-07-10 23:13:01 < dba> lxde packaging is getting on my nerves, 2010-07-10 23:13:10 < dba> why can't you guys keep the things updated.. hrm. 2010-07-10 23:13:21 < SynrG> well, "us guys" is mostly just andrew 2010-07-10 23:13:29 < SynrG> i will do *emergency* uploads 2010-07-10 23:13:36 < SynrG> but nothing yet has struck me as an emergency 2010-07-10 23:13:39 < dba> so, what do you want me to do, re-add gdm on >lenny builds? 2010-07-10 23:13:48 < dba> does he come to debconf? 2010-07-10 23:13:50 < SynrG> well, nothing at this time 2010-07-10 23:13:54 < SynrG> i think so, yes 2010-07-10 23:14:22 < SynrG> let me figure out through experimentation what works best, talk with andrew again, and then if he wants to change lxde-common to depend on gdm3 ... 2010-07-10 23:14:24 < adrian15b> dba: live-initramfs does not seem to have the option I am looking for. live-boot is not found as a package in packages.debian.org and apt-file search live | grep boot does not give either results (run in unstable) ? 2010-07-10 23:14:39 < SynrG> we'll simply ask you then to make the corresponding change in live-helper, i think 2010-07-10 23:14:39 < adrian15b> dba: Are you sure that you use live-boot in squeeze? 2010-07-10 23:14:59 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * re38728c live-config/bin/update-live-config.sh: Because lxde still uses gdm instead of gdm3 on squeeze, also including gdm config scripts when building on squeeze and newer. 2010-07-10 23:15:15 < SynrG> i *barely* have enough time for this. i think taking a more active role in lxde would be really stretching it 2010-07-10 23:15:15 < dba> SynrG: snapshots in about 2min will have gdm on >=squeeze again. 2010-07-10 23:15:36 < dba> SynrG: if he comes to debconf, we should talk about lxde. 2010-07-10 23:15:40 < SynrG> i'm annoyed at the length of my TODO for debian-eeepc and lack of responses to my post to our list at the beginning of this month asking for help with it :p 2010-07-10 23:15:43 < SynrG> yeah. let's 2010-07-10 23:15:57 < SynrG> (our list = debian-eeepc-devel) 2010-07-10 23:16:01 < dba> SynrG: assuming he's willing to use git, i can help out. 2010-07-10 23:16:43 < SynrG> i thought you already went back to gdm anyway for lxde for >=squeeze 2010-07-10 23:17:03 < dba> two different things here 2010-07-10 23:17:21 < dba> one is build-time (live-helper), one is run-time (live-config) 2010-07-10 23:17:29 < SynrG> ah 2010-07-10 23:17:42 < SynrG> well, it makes sense that they should match 2010-07-10 23:17:52 < dba> live-config determines with lsb_release during build what distribution we're building for, 2010-07-10 23:18:09 < dba> and then removes those config scripts that are not necessary for that distribution 2010-07-10 23:18:19 < dba> this safes another couple of seconds boot-time. 2010-07-10 23:18:47 < dba> ...and if live-config for squeeze has no gdm script, then you don't get gdm autologin. 2010-07-10 23:18:54 < SynrG> ah. got it 2010-07-10 23:19:07 < SynrG> the current state of lxde-common is that it recommends gdm 2010-07-10 23:19:21 < SynrG> it cannot use nodm because that's not a normal one 2010-07-10 23:19:28 < dba> we'll keep things now as they are, until i hear something new from you. 2010-07-10 23:19:28 < SynrG> it cannot use slim because of the security issues 2010-07-10 23:19:38 < SynrG> it cannot use lxdm because it's not ready yet 2010-07-10 23:19:44 < SynrG> so unfortunately that leaves us with gdm 2010-07-10 23:20:03 < dba> gdm per se is not that wrong (given above situation), 2010-07-10 23:20:21 < dba> it's just wrong that you use gdm (which is the old version), instead of gdm3 (which is the newer version). 2010-07-10 23:20:28 < dba> but anyway.. let's discuss that at debconf. 2010-07-10 23:20:35 < dba> new snapshots are in place 2010-07-10 23:21:03 < SynrG> got it 2010-07-10 23:21:06 < SynrG> ok 2010-07-10 23:21:17 < SynrG> bleah 2010-07-10 23:21:18 < SynrG> gdm3: Conflicts: gdm but 2.20.11-1 is to be installed 2010-07-10 23:21:42 < dba> gdm3 *afaik* also uses less space on the disk (trough relaxter depends/recommends/$whatever) 2010-07-10 23:22:13 < SynrG> so if i use gdm for now i don't have to worry about resolving this conflict 2010-07-10 23:22:26 < SynrG> i assume a modified lxde-common will be needed to fix this 2010-07-10 23:22:49 < SynrG> oh! crap. gdm is explicitly mentioned in the package list :p 2010-07-10 23:24:45 < dba> you're trying to build with gdm3 now? 2010-07-10 23:25:14 < dba> .oO(now that, just because of you, i re-included gdm in live-config for >=squeeze :) 2010-07-10 23:25:23 < SynrG> yeah. i've locally modified /usr/share/live-helper/lists/lxde to specify gdm for lenny and gdm3 for squeeze/sid 2010-07-10 23:25:27 < dba> adrian15b: what do you mean with 'are you sure if you use live-boot'? 2010-07-10 23:25:38 < SynrG> well, you *said* it should be using gdm3 2010-07-10 23:25:59 < dba> SynrG: i'm just teasing because i 'fixed' it for you, but now you refuse to use it :) 2010-07-10 23:26:13 < SynrG> so the gdm thing in live-config doesn't work for gdm3? 2010-07-10 23:26:19 < SynrG> why didn't you say so? :) 2010-07-10 23:26:25 < SynrG> i was assuming it would 2010-07-10 23:26:35 < dba> i see.. you didn't had a look at live-config yet. 2010-07-10 23:26:39 < SynrG> nope 2010-07-10 23:26:46 < dba> live-config consists of simple shell functions, 2010-07-10 23:26:47 < SynrG> i'm watching a show with family 2010-07-10 23:26:52 < dba> for each binary package there is one 2010-07-10 23:27:03 < SynrG> so, somewhat divided attention :p 2010-07-10 23:27:17 < dba> why? because you can fail fast in case a package is not installed 2010-07-10 23:27:27 < SynrG> ok 2010-07-10 23:27:36 < dba> so.. there's a function (aka script) for gdm, one for gdm3, etc.. 2010-07-10 23:27:46 < SynrG> ah 2010-07-10 23:27:49 < dba> stuff is in /lib/live/config/, btw. 2010-07-10 23:28:10 < SynrG> so as long as lxde-common recommends gdm and not gdm3, yes, live-config doing gdm is correct 2010-07-10 23:28:15 < dba> *bevor* the change above, lenny had only the gdm script, and squeeze only the gdm3. 2010-07-10 23:28:26 < SynrG> i see 2010-07-10 23:28:31 < dba> *since* the change, lenny has gdm only, squeeze has gdm and gdm3. 2010-07-10 23:28:49 < SynrG> oh. so my build *will* work. it just doesn't use your change 2010-07-10 23:28:50 < dba> just because of you, this makes everyone booting slower, since now on every squeeze system, 2010-07-10 23:28:58 < SynrG> yeah, i see. 2010-07-10 23:29:02 < dba> there's a check for -e /var/lib/dpkg/info/gdm.files 2010-07-10 23:29:17 < adrian15b> dba: I mean... Are you sure that live-boot is actually a Debian package? Because I was unable to find it. 2010-07-10 23:29:28 < dba> but it's only one check, so we might be able to live with that. 2010-07-10 23:29:56 < dba> adrian15b: that's why i told you that you have to use -r live.debian.net since the packages are blocked through NEW. 2010-07-10 23:30:14 < dba> -r live.debian.net means that live-helper is using live.debian.net/debian automatically. 2010-07-10 23:30:40 < SynrG> dba: in any event, it may be short-term if we change lxde-common to recommend gdm3 instead of gdm 2010-07-10 23:31:21 < adrian15b> dba: That was the part that I did not understand. So... it is kind of an unofficial Debian mirror (but Debian live official one)... that makes sense. 2010-07-10 23:32:03 < dba> SynrG: that's what i hope, yes ;) 2010-07-10 23:32:22 < dba> adrian15b: no, it's a snapshot repository from our own stuff. 2010-07-10 23:32:42 < adrian15b> dba: Yes, that's what I meant 2010-07-10 23:33:01 < dba> ok :) 2010-07-10 23:34:17 < SynrG> dba: ok. i've reverted back to gdm for now 2010-07-10 23:45:11 < dba> ok 2010-07-10 23:51:27 < adrian15b> dba: Interesting fromiso option is not found at live-boot (at least neither it is in parametres.txt file and in man page) --- Day changed Sun Jul 11 2010 2010-07-11 00:00:21 < dba> so at someone came up with the patch, it didn't updated the manpage. 2010-07-11 00:01:26 < BTS> Opened #588667 in live-initramfs 1.177.2-1 by Adrian Gibanel Lopez «fromiso kernel parameter is not explained in man page». http://bugs.debian.org/588667 2010-07-11 00:01:51 < SynrG> dba: ok. gdm hook works fine 2010-07-11 00:03:25 < adrian15b> dba: I will probably end using squeeze's live-initramfs which I suppose supports the fromiso option 2010-07-11 00:04:03 < SynrG> so that leaves: 1. d-i pppoe issue 2. live-installer-launcher.desktop file still broken 3. ~user/Desktop dir & contents owned by root:root 4. live-installer-launcher breaks (CD-ROM thing) ... although i never retested 4. did you fix that? 2010-07-11 00:04:28 < SynrG> dba: ^^ 2010-07-11 00:04:43 -!- adrian15b [~adrian@77.210.210.30] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-11 00:06:17 < dba> gosh.. i told him that he doesn't want to use live-initramfs from squeeze.. 2010-07-11 00:06:20 < dba> whatever.. 2010-07-11 00:07:14 < SynrG> :p 2010-07-11 00:07:16 < dba> SynrG: 1. no clue; 2. no clue :(; 3. i'll check; 4. not sure which error you mean, can you describe it? 2010-07-11 00:07:35 < SynrG> it presents the same symptom as we just fixed 2010-07-11 00:07:55 < SynrG> "No common CD-ROM drive was found" 2010-07-11 00:08:22 < SynrG> i figure it's because the live system has it mounted already 2010-07-11 00:08:33 < SynrG> so when it tries to remount in a different place it fails 2010-07-11 00:10:24 < dba> nah, don't think so. 2010-07-11 00:10:35 < SynrG> ok. just a wild guess 2010-07-11 00:10:56 < SynrG> what should i look for? 2010-07-11 00:11:03 < SynrG> i can boot the image now and see 2010-07-11 00:11:19 < dba> i *think* that this should not appear anymore with the fixed cdrom-detect 2010-07-11 00:11:58 < dba> if you can reconfirm that it still occurs, then i'll need to have another look at whatever is causing it (which i've got no clue yet). 2010-07-11 00:12:04 < SynrG> ok 2010-07-11 00:13:13 < SynrG> my cache has cdrom-detect_1.32_all.udeb 2010-07-11 00:13:21 < SynrG> and i have the fix for 1.32 in my config ... 2010-07-11 00:13:30 < SynrG> rebooting to test this from the launcher 2010-07-11 00:19:17 < SynrG> "No common CD-ROM drive was detected." 2010-07-11 00:19:28 < SynrG> dba: while i have the system booted, anything further for me to check? 2010-07-11 00:23:19 < SynrG> Jul 11 00:20:52 cdrom-detect: Searching for Debian installation media... 2010-07-11 00:23:27 < SynrG> that's all i see in the installer's syslog 2010-07-11 00:24:28 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * read4e8a live-boot/manpages/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Listing fromiso parameter in manpage (Closes: #588667). 2010-07-11 00:24:44 < dba> SynrG: and what does the installer say? 2010-07-11 00:24:55 < dba> ah, sorry, saw it above. 2010-07-11 00:26:28 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-142-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-11 00:30:31 < SynrG> dba: i could introduce some echo or set -x or something if i knew where to look ... 2010-07-11 00:33:38 < dba> SynrG: wait.. have you been using usb, right? 2010-07-11 00:33:50 < dba> so you need to preseed cdrom-detect/try-usb=true too 2010-07-11 00:33:52 < dba> means.. 2010-07-11 00:34:39 < SynrG> so i can manually edit it? 2010-07-11 00:34:58 < SynrG> i'm in vi preseed.cfg ... 2010-07-11 00:34:59 < dba> so for a test, you would edit /usr/sbin/live-installer-launcher 2010-07-11 00:35:10 < SynrG> oh 2010-07-11 00:35:14 < dba> and add in after line 80 something like 2010-07-11 00:35:36 < SynrG> i see. it creates it. ok 2010-07-11 00:35:41 < dba> d-i cdrom-detect/try/usb boolean true 2010-07-11 00:36:00 < SynrG> try-usb 2010-07-11 00:36:04 < dba> aeh, yeah 2010-07-11 00:36:09 < dba> and if that doesn't work, 2010-07-11 00:36:12 < dba> you can also try 2010-07-11 00:36:21 < dba> cdrom-detect cdrom-detect/try-usb boolean true 2010-07-11 00:36:35 < dba> or, you can even add both, doesn't matter if one of em will be useless. 2010-07-11 00:36:51 < SynrG> trying the first 2010-07-11 00:37:25 < SynrG> nope 2010-07-11 00:38:35 < dba> hmm 2010-07-11 00:38:56 < SynrG> nor the second 2010-07-11 00:40:45 < SynrG> oh 2010-07-11 00:41:01 < SynrG> preseed.cfg doesn't seem to have this line in it 2010-07-11 00:41:06 < SynrG> at least 2010-07-11 00:41:14 < SynrG> not the one in /live/installer/preseed.cfg 2010-07-11 00:42:06 < dba> um, so it's a failure at your end then . 2010-07-11 00:42:24 < SynrG> no 2010-07-11 00:42:34 < SynrG> it doesn't resemble the one in the script 2010-07-11 00:42:44 < SynrG> it has two lines of anna-something ... sec. 2010-07-11 00:43:04 < SynrG> d-i anna/choose_modules string di-utils-exit-installer 2010-07-11 00:43:13 < SynrG> d-i anna/choose_modules seen false 2010-07-11 00:43:15 < SynrG> that's it 2010-07-11 00:43:21 < SynrG> well, a comment line above each 2010-07-11 00:44:03 < dba> i'm stupid 2010-07-11 00:44:08 < dba> mea culpa 2010-07-11 00:44:22 < dba> you should not add it in the block at line 80, but the one at 69 2010-07-11 00:44:42 < dba> the 80 one is conditional on expert mode, and you didn't choose expert i guess :) 2010-07-11 00:44:44 < SynrG> thanks. just figured that out 2010-07-11 00:44:48 < SynrG> yes, i see that :) 2010-07-11 00:44:50 < SynrG> no, i didn't 2010-07-11 00:47:11 < SynrG> nope. neither one works 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l-h.cgi. 2010-07-11 03:32:11 < unixabg> dba, thanks! 2010-07-11 05:20:00 -!- kaduk (kaduk) [~mateusz@142-mi2-5.acn.waw.pl] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-11 05:20:09 < kaduk> Hi 2010-07-11 05:20:24 < kaduk> unixabg, are you around ? 2010-07-11 05:22:10 < kaduk> unixabg, is it possible to add option to disable win32-loader with webgui for building custom images? 2010-07-11 08:36:25 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-11 09:23:46 -!- niktaris (Nick Niktaris) [~niktaris@178-24-200.dynamic.cyta.gr] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-11 09:25:29 < SynrG> good morning 2010-07-11 10:11:47 -!- Igloo_ is now known as Igloo 2010-07-11 10:36:22 -!- kaduk [~mateusz@142-mi2-5.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-11 10:46:48 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-142-010.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-11 12:15:50 < BTS> live-installer 19 uploaded by Christian Perrier (bubulle) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-installer 2010-07-11 12:46:17 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-11 15:37:10 < SynrG> dba: when i say -r live.debian.net why is live-installer-launcher only at version 15? 2010-07-11 15:41:22 < dba> SynrG: because live-installer is in svn, and i don't want to waste time for adding svn support to my snapshot build scripts 2010-07-11 16:36:27 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.148.203] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-11 16:56:28 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.148.203] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-11 16:57:04 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.148.203] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-11 18:12:35 < SynrG> dba: yeah, i figured as much 2010-07-11 18:12:46 < SynrG> dba: no problem. that can be worked around. it was just unexpected. 2010-07-11 18:45:18 -!- Kasreyn [~i@h59ec10dc.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-11 21:03:47 -!- 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[~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 07:01:15 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-12 07:33:27 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 09:18:33 < ciphergoth> In Ubuntu Lucid Lynx, "lh build" in an empty directory results in this error: "E: Regex compilation error - Invalid preceding regular expression" 2010-07-12 09:19:22 < ciphergoth> I thought I'd fixed this by adding the config parameter --linux-packages "linux-image-2.6" but no, I'm still seeing this error 2010-07-12 09:29:30 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-12 09:30:01 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 09:33:17 < ciphergoth> If anyone else encounters this problem, --ignore-system-defaults seems to be the magic incantation 2010-07-12 09:39:26 < ciphergoth> ignore that, I don't think it's right, finding out more 2010-07-12 09:43:00 < ciphergoth> I now think that you can't rely on "lh build" to auto-run "lh config", you have to run it by hand 2010-07-12 09:53:32 < ciphergoth> If there's anyone here: what's the advantage of auto/config over just directly calling it that way in your build script? 2010-07-12 09:55:52 < ciphergoth> cos I'm pretty certain my auto/config isn't being executed 2010-07-12 10:21:38 < SynrG> which version of live-helper? if you're up-to-date it should work 2010-07-12 10:38:53 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-12 11:04:48 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.148.203] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 11:05:01 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.148.203] has quit [] 2010-07-12 11:11:17 -!- Kasreyn (Harman Smith) [~i@h59ec10dc.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 11:11:30 < Kasreyn> hey 2010-07-12 11:12:23 -!- lxsameer (Sameer) [~lxsameer@109.110.170.91] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 11:13:23 < Kasreyn> if i place files in config/chroot_local-includes/home/user, how do i chown them to user ? 2010-07-12 11:14:01 < lxsameer> when i do a lh chroot_packageslists , i get a warning about skipping chroot_packageslists, i try to use a lists call ml.list inside of config_local-packageslists 2010-07-12 11:31:55 < lxsameer> should i copy the default lists that i used in include section inside of my custom packageslist to config/chroot_local-packageslists/ ? 2010-07-12 11:46:15 < lxsameer> how can i get more information about lh warnings ? 2010-07-12 11:46:54 < SynrG> stages that have been run already will be skipped 2010-07-12 11:47:09 < SynrG> if you've made a change that requires a stage to be rerun, you should 'lh clean' first 2010-07-12 11:47:38 < lxsameer> SynrG: i just do a lh bootstrap 2010-07-12 11:48:20 < SynrG> individual stages cannot be run out of sequence 2010-07-12 11:48:30 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 11:48:35 < SynrG> so, lh bootstrap followed by lh chroot_packageslists is invalid 2010-07-12 11:49:17 < SynrG> after lh bootstrap comes 'lh chroot' 2010-07-12 11:49:23 < lxsameer> SynrG: aha , does chroot_packageslists included in lh chroot ? 2010-07-12 11:49:35 < SynrG> look for yourself in /usr/share/live-helper/helpers/ 2010-07-12 11:49:47 < SynrG> start with 'build' 2010-07-12 11:49:50 < SynrG> then look at 'chroot' 2010-07-12 11:50:13 < lxsameer> SynrG: ok thanks 2010-07-12 11:50:13 -!- intrigeri [~intrigeri@gaffer.ptitcanardnoir.org] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-12 11:50:46 < SynrG> it is difficult to get it right. i don't think users should ordinarily break it down any further than 'lh bootstrap', 'lh chroot', 'lh binary' etc. 2010-07-12 11:51:35 -!- intrigeri (0xFD586E52) [~intrigeri@gaffer.ptitcanardnoir.org] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 11:51:48 < SynrG> Kasreyn: don't. put them in /etc/skel instead 2010-07-12 11:52:30 < SynrG> Kasreyn: the downside of that is that if you include the live-installer you'll need to trim out any material from there that is not intended to be included for anyone but the live user 2010-07-12 11:53:05 < SynrG> some example hook that does this would be helpful. i haven't yet gotten that far in development of my own image tho 2010-07-12 12:25:25 -!- juliank (Julian Andres Klode) [~juliank@p5B252BEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 12:31:08 < Kasreyn> SynrG: you mean config/chroot_local-includes/etc/skel ? 2010-07-12 12:31:30 < Kasreyn> i'm trying what happens if i chown 999:999 the files 2010-07-12 12:32:05 < SynrG> Kasreyn: yes 2010-07-12 12:32:11 < Kasreyn> i think /etc/skel will do in this situation though 2010-07-12 12:35:08 < SynrG> of course, in some situations you *do* want the material in /etc/skel to be added to the user's account on the installed system, and in that case, it is perfectly suited 2010-07-12 12:36:35 < Kasreyn> it seems to be exactly what i want :) 2010-07-12 12:39:33 < SynrG> good 2010-07-12 12:49:31 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-12 12:50:32 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 14:07:42 -!- juliank [~juliank@p5B252BEA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-12 14:14:02 < lxsameer> how long does it take to install debian-installer in live iso ? 2010-07-12 14:16:41 < Kasreyn> is there a config for setting a default time region ? 2010-07-12 14:22:04 * Kasreyn tries boot option timezone=Europe/Stockholm 2010-07-12 14:22:37 < lxsameer> i try a lh build with the debian-installer config set to true , but it is about 3 hours that lh freeze on "Begin installing debian-installer..." 2010-07-12 14:27:29 < Kasreyn> nope, it's live-config.timezone. i'm starting to learn that now 2010-07-12 14:37:54 < Kasreyn> SynrG: it's not working, do i need to do anything else to get the live-config scripts to copy contents of /etc/skel at boot ? if i adduser it works as it should.. 2010-07-12 14:38:12 < SynrG> huh. strange. i do my customizations that way 2010-07-12 14:38:14 < SynrG> and it works 2010-07-12 14:38:30 < SynrG> unless you have some strange config in there 2010-07-12 14:38:49 < SynrG> try a simple default image. no customization *except* /etc/skel 2010-07-12 14:39:08 < SynrG> minimal package list 2010-07-12 14:43:14 < Kasreyn> i use live-config.username=myuser, maybe that has somthing to do with it? 2010-07-12 14:43:38 < Kasreyn> but shouldn't it apply the same scripts at boot, copying over /etc/skel? 2010-07-12 14:45:44 < SynrG> yes, it should 2010-07-12 14:46:06 < SynrG> verify your chroot has the appropriate scripts in /etc/skel 2010-07-12 14:46:13 < SynrG> er, files 2010-07-12 14:46:21 < Kasreyn> it has the files 2010-07-12 14:46:28 < Kasreyn> as i said it works if i adduser 2010-07-12 14:46:36 < SynrG> huh. well, check live.log for the adduser 2010-07-12 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helper and as a result i have tar.gz archive 2010-07-12 19:54:11 < kaduk> how to put it on usb and make it bootable? 2010-07-12 19:54:49 < kaduk> dba, Hi 2010-07-12 19:54:52 < dba> you didn't build a usb-hdd iamge then. 2010-07-12 19:55:01 < dba> usb-hdd gives you a .img. 2010-07-12 19:55:14 < kaduk> lh config -b usb-hdd --apt aptitude --binary-images net 2010-07-12 19:55:44 < kaduk> is it possible to rebuild it without removing everything, since it takes ages to build img 2010-07-12 19:56:48 < kaduk> dba, that was full command http://debian.pastebin.com/Y5DrN0Xn 2010-07-12 19:57:19 < dba> -b is short for --binary-images 2010-07-12 19:57:50 < dba> if you specify -b for more than once, always the last one takes precedence. 2010-07-12 19:58:01 < dba> so you were not building an usb-hdd image as i said above. 2010-07-12 19:58:29 < kaduk> ah.. 2010-07-12 19:58:44 < kaduk> ok so I have to remove "--binary-images net" 2010-07-12 19:58:53 < kaduk> but do I have to buld everything from scratch? 2010-07-12 19:59:12 < dba> in that case yes, since net images are different from any other image. 2010-07-12 19:59:19 < kaduk> hm.. ok thanks 2010-07-12 19:59:28 < dba> as long as you keep the cache (means, lh clean instead of lh clean --purge), 2010-07-12 19:59:32 < dba> it's not going to take long. 2010-07-12 19:59:41 < kaduk> oh good to know I was going to type rm -fr 2010-07-12 19:59:43 < kaduk> thanks 2010-07-12 20:00:00 < kaduk> I tried lh clean before, when fighting with this but builds were failing 2010-07-12 20:00:04 < kaduk> let me check 2010-07-12 20:01:54 < kaduk> dba, thanks for your time and help! :) 2010-07-12 20:37:45 -!- pbn_ (Pierre Bauduin) [pbn@k-lined.info] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 20:39:53 -!- coruja_ (Markus Meyer) [coruja@coruja.info] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 20:41:20 -!- Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> magnet.oftc.net quits: pbn, coruja 2010-07-12 20:41:20 -!- coruja_ is now known as coruja 2010-07-12 20:41:20 -!- pbn_ is now known 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[test0@89.137.231.60] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 23:13:35 < smv> what should i do to make ssh work in squeeze debian-live 2010-07-12 23:13:52 -!- moldovean (Moldoman) [~Q-@144.85.45.206] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 23:13:54 < dba> to ssh in or to ssh out? 2010-07-12 23:14:17 < smv> after installing with aptitude i can't connect to that system 2010-07-12 23:15:34 < smv> dba, ssh in, i guess 2010-07-12 23:15:48 < dba> so you need to install openssh-server 2010-07-12 23:15:58 < dba> and make sure it's running, and that you have network access on that box, 2010-07-12 23:16:10 < dba> and that your other box can ping the machine that you want to login to. 2010-07-12 23:16:11 < smv> i did aptitude install sh, and it pulled everything in 2010-07-12 23:16:17 < smv> *ssh 2010-07-12 23:16:26 < dba> anyhow, this is not live specific at all, 2010-07-12 23:16:29 < smv> ping works, ssh doesn't 2010-07-12 23:16:40 < dba> what user did you try? 2010-07-12 23:17:13 < smv> added a new user, same name as on this machine 2010-07-12 23:18:22 < smv> ssh: connect to host 79.116.236.55 port 22: Connection timed out 2010-07-12 23:19:08 < smv> fact is that this happens only while using live. same thing on lenny as on the alpha squeeze 2010-07-12 23:19:25 < dba> i don't think so. 2010-07-12 23:20:45 < smv> i know it shouldn't, but it does. 2010-07-12 23:22:17 < dba> i think this is a local problem of yours, 2010-07-12 23:22:23 < dba> i can't reproduce it here. 2010-07-12 23:30:06 -!- chattr (Fudd's First Law of Opposition) [~mike@244.87.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 23:38:43 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.130.163.159] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-12 23:41:55 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.198.112] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-12 23:42:51 -!- rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-146-243.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Day changed Tue Jul 13 2010 2010-07-13 00:32:13 -!- mammadori [~mammadori@firewall.vdavda.com] has 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07:01:17 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-13 07:24:48 < Kasreyn> SynrG: i removed config/chroot_local-includes/home and now it works. thanks for all your help 2010-07-13 07:34:15 -!- kaduk [~mateusz@142-mi2-5.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-13 07:38:34 -!- kaduk (kaduk) [~mateusz@142-mi2-5.acn.waw.pl] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-13 07:38:51 < kaduk> Write protecting the kernel read-only data: 4220k 2010-07-13 07:38:57 < kaduk> and not booting 2010-07-13 07:59:02 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-13 08:31:54 < SynrG> Kasreyn: great 2010-07-13 08:32:24 < SynrG> kaduk: hm. bad write to the boot media? 2010-07-13 08:34:24 < kaduk> SynrG, its in qemu test 2010-07-13 08:34:32 < kaduk> from binary.img 2010-07-13 08:34:52 < kaduk> live-helper 2.0~a18+20100710.214446 2010-07-13 08:42:17 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-13 08:46:25 < SynrG> ah. hm 2010-07-13 08:46:53 < SynrG> what's your config? 2010-07-13 08:51:14 < kaduk> let me past 2010-07-13 08:52:05 < kaduk> SynrG, http://debian.pastebin.com/9YFvZmwq 2010-07-13 08:53:37 < SynrG> sid? perhaps try a squeeze build instead? 2010-07-13 08:53:57 < kaduk> yes sid, but before updating live-helper I could create booting image 2010-07-13 08:54:08 < SynrG> ah 2010-07-13 08:54:15 < kaduk> I used live-helper from debian, now I updated to the one from live.debian.net 2010-07-13 08:54:18 < SynrG> well, still could be something in sid 2010-07-13 08:54:23 < SynrG> yeah, i've been using that too ... 2010-07-13 08:54:27 < SynrG> sec 2010-07-13 08:54:35 < kaduk> well the one from debian did not create live user 2010-07-13 08:54:50 < kaduk> maybe I will downgrade to debian's live-helper and will use interactive shell 2010-07-13 08:55:16 < kaduk> I would really like to stick to sid 2010-07-13 08:55:18 < SynrG> the one in sid creates the live user for me just fine 2010-07-13 08:55:23 < SynrG> the lh, i mean 2010-07-13 08:55:43 < SynrG> 2.0~a18-1 2010-07-13 08:56:29 < kaduk> then I dont know, maybe it was updated 2010-07-13 08:56:56 < kaduk> SynrG, this is what happend with debian's lh build http://i31.tinypic.com/hukrac.jpg 2010-07-13 08:59:31 < SynrG> dunno. i've been doing squeeze builds with the lh in sid just fine 2010-07-13 08:59:33 < SynrG> no such error 2010-07-13 08:59:51 < SynrG> generally i don't recommend builds of squeeze 2010-07-13 08:59:53 < SynrG> er 2010-07-13 08:59:56 < SynrG> generally i don't recommend builds of sid 2010-07-13 08:59:57 < SynrG> i mean 2010-07-13 09:00:13 < SynrG> what i do is a build of squeeze supplemented by a few things from sid when i need them 2010-07-13 09:00:20 < SynrG> a lot fewer surprises that way 2010-07-13 09:02:32 < kaduk> SynrG, what I know is that no new packages in sid were downloaded, I still use the same sid packages only live-helper changed 2010-07-13 09:02:51 < kaduk> I can revert back to live-helper from debian though 2010-07-13 09:03:38 < kaduk> my feeling is that its live-helper regression 2010-07-13 09:05:01 < kaduk> SynrG, I am rebuilding with debian's lh and if any error occur I will tell you 2010-07-13 09:47:54 -!- Jordan_U (Jordan Uggla) [~jordan@adsl-99-155-195-215.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-13 09:50:13 < Jordan_U> Can the debian live scripts be used to create an iso using grub2 as the bootloader? 2010-07-13 09:59:20 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-13 09:59:25 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-13 10:17:09 < kaduk> SynrG, you're right its something in sid, now also debian's live-helper fails 2010-07-13 10:17:20 < kaduk> thanks for help I will wait till its fixed 2010-07-13 10:33:16 < SynrG> good 2010-07-13 10:46:56 -!- kaduk [~mateusz@142-mi2-5.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-13 11:14:12 -!- rhaeder (purple) 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Before reporting a new issue, please use the latest snapshots from live.debian.net/debian | If nobody answers, use debian-live@lists.debian.org | Releases: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/ | Snapshots: http://live.debian.net/cdimage/ | yes, cdimages may be old; lh config & lh build if this bothers you | no login user created? use -r live.debian.net 2010-07-13 11:54:39 < SynrG> dba: and yes, it's perfectly clear it must be a runtime issue. this is what happens when you try to help someone in a distracted state of mind :) 2010-07-13 11:54:44 < SynrG> thanks 2010-07-13 11:55:24 < SynrG> how far are we from taking the plunge and uploading what's in snapshots? 2010-07-13 11:57:05 < CIA-11> daniel * r1224feb wiki-content/project/status.mdwn: Updating project status page. 2010-07-13 11:57:58 < dba> SynrG: no problem, and thanks for /topic. 2010-07-13 11:58:15 < dba> SynrG: snapshot of which package? 2010-07-13 11:58:33 < SynrG> uh, the split live-initramfs stuff 2010-07-13 11:58:46 < SynrG> i think 2010-07-13 11:59:38 < dba> well, that stuff is uploaded continues since several weeks 2010-07-13 11:59:47 < dba> but it's waiting in NEW. 2010-07-13 11:59:48 < SynrG> still stuck in NEW 2010-07-13 11:59:50 < SynrG> yeah 2010-07-13 11:59:56 < SynrG> crap 2010-07-13 12:00:15 < SynrG> and the holdup is what? who do we have to sleep with to move it along? :) 2010-07-13 12:02:00 < Kasreyn> do you have to do lh clean or can you just lh build to include new changes in config/chroot_local-include ? 2010-07-13 12:02:30 < dba> Kasreyn: if you change one thing in one stage, you need to rebuild that stage plus every stage after that. 2010-07-13 12:02:45 < dba> in your case, that means: lh clean && lh build 2010-07-13 12:03:03 < Kasreyn> looking for ways to speed up my build 2010-07-13 12:03:19 < Kasreyn> ah well i'll just have to wait then 2010-07-13 12:03:40 < Kasreyn> i can go eat an icecream or something ;) 2010-07-13 12:04:03 < SynrG> dba: i guess having own repositories is not too horrible when stuff is stuck in NEW, but the work is offloaded to individual teams to provide them 2010-07-13 12:04:06 < SynrG> this sucks 2010-07-13 12:22:33 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-13 12:24:31 -!- juliank (Julian Andres Klode) [~juliank@p5B2527F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-13 12:36:16 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-13 14:38:11 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-13 15:01:31 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-13 15:14:54 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-13 15:26:06 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@bas1-montreal42-1178046759.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-13 16:57:25 -!- foka (Anthony Fok) [~foka@58.30.27.46] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-13 17:37:22 -!- sirrus14 (sirrus) 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problem with that is the device name could change depending on hardware. so in this case /dev/sdb2 is something else 2010-07-13 18:41:07 < dba> then don't use that way ;) 2010-07-13 18:41:40 < Kasreyn> automounter script sounds interesting. you shouldn't trust HAL 2010-07-13 18:47:36 -!- flypiper [~mb_@75-149-68-164-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2010-07-13 18:48:35 < Kasreyn> any documentation or examples for automount with live-config ? 2010-07-13 18:56:26 < dba> include live-config-staging and boot with live-config.mount-all 2010-07-13 18:56:33 < dba> it should work. 2010-07-13 19:06:09 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-13 19:06:24 -!- Kasreyn [~i@h59ec10dc.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-13 19:13:28 -!- Kasreyn (Harman Smith) [~i@h59ec10dc.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #debian-live 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If not I'd be willing to help implement it. 2010-07-13 20:17:50 < dba> lh config --bootloader grub2 should work 2010-07-13 20:17:58 < dba> i mean.. 2010-07-13 20:18:04 < dba> 'lh config --bootloader grub2 && lh build' should work 2010-07-13 20:18:59 < Jordan_U> dba: Thanks. 2010-07-13 22:24:16 -!- juliank (Julian Andres Klode) [~juliank@p5B2527F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-13 22:32:36 -!- juliank [~juliank@p5B2527F6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-13 22:36:20 -!- pbn [pbn@k-lined.info] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-13 23:02:19 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host122-202-static.12-87-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-13 23:22:09 -!- felkor (felkor) [~felkor@a213-22-37-154.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-13 23:30:21 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-13 23:47:37 -!- felkor [~felkor@a213-22-37-154.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Quit: Saindo] --- Day changed Wed Jul 14 2010 2010-07-14 02:23:42 -!- rhaeder1 (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-143-238.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 02:29:31 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-131-146.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-14 05:35:29 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-14 06:36:31 -!- foka [~foka@58.30.27.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-14 06:45:39 -!- foka (Anthony Fok) [~foka@58.30.27.46] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 07:10:40 < Kasreyn> i have a small problem. with live-config.mount-all, it mounts everything in /media/devname right ? how can i mount a partition on /mymountpoint ? 2010-07-14 07:12:06 < Kasreyn> hmm i guess i could use udev 2010-07-14 07:12:14 < Kasreyn> and label the partition 2010-07-14 07:15:23 < Kasreyn> maybe add a rule like this: KERNEL=="sd?2", ENV{ID_FS_USAGE}=="filesystem", ENV{ID_FS_LABEL}=="DEBIAN_LIVE", SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", DRIVERS=="usb-storage", SYMLINK="mydevice" 2010-07-14 07:35:37 < Kasreyn> hey it works 2010-07-14 07:55:28 < Kasreyn> if i want to set grub2 gfxmode=1280x800 in live configs where would be the right place to set it? 2010-07-14 07:57:19 < Kasreyn> also do someone have a basic example of how to do splash screen? 2010-07-14 08:29:15 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 08:44:20 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 08:50:35 < mammadori> does sid's images are still autobuilt somewhere? 2010-07-14 10:26:43 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 10:27:36 -!- moldovean [~Q-@144.85.45.206] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-14 11:03:37 -!- foka [~foka@58.30.27.46] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 2010-07-14 11:04:10 -!- foka (Anthony Fok) [~foka@58.30.27.46] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 11:40:48 -!- foka [~foka@58.30.27.46] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2010-07-14 12:49:37 < Kasreyn> i have LH_BOOTLOADER="grub2" and LH_BINARY_FILESYSTEM="fat16" why is the image not created? see log here: http://codepad.org/moajGmBh 2010-07-14 12:54:45 < dba> Kasreyn: if you would care to read the output: 2010-07-14 12:54:46 < dba> W: Bootloader in this image type not yet supported by live-helper. 2010-07-14 12:54:46 < dba> W: This would produce a not bootable image, aborting (FIXME). 2010-07-14 12:55:10 < dba> your version of lh doesn't support grub2, you should update to a newer one. 2010-07-14 12:57:28 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-14 12:57:34 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 12:58:14 -!- hallyn (Unknown) [~xa@cpe-70-120-198-24.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 12:58:30 < Kasreyn> dba: oh i see 2010-07-14 12:59:33 < hallyn> There seem to be plenty of ways to customize the chroot that ends up in the filesystem.{squashfs,ext3,whateve}. But I haven't found any ways to cusomize binary/casper/initrd.img. I want to customize the scripts in there. Any hints? 2010-07-14 12:59:52 < Kasreyn> so i need live-helper from sid? 2010-07-14 13:00:34 < Kasreyn> i have: lh, version 2.0~a14-1 2010-07-14 13:01:44 < dba> the content of the initrd is put together by initramfs-tools, 2010-07-14 13:02:16 < dba> depending on what you want to change, you'll use whatever is most appropriate to modify that. 2010-07-14 13:03:03 < hallyn> but it's initramfs-tools executed under the chroot I assume/hope? (Not the system-wide config) 2010-07-14 13:03:36 < Kasreyn> ok i upgraded initramfs-tools from 0.94.4 to 0.97.2, will fix it maybe 2010-07-14 13:03:53 < hallyn> find config -name "*live*" gives me nothing - I was expecting config/ to guide it... 2010-07-14 13:04:09 < dba> hallyn: of course. 2010-07-14 13:04:35 < dba> hallyn: what is that find command supposed to find? 2010-07-14 13:04:36 < hallyn> ok, so i should have chroot hooks configure chroot/usr/share/initramfs-tools you're saying 2010-07-14 13:04:47 < hallyn> dba: apparently nothing :) 2010-07-14 13:05:02 < hallyn> I was hoping to find a live-helper config file specific to the initramfs-tools 2010-07-14 13:05:03 < dba> i don't have any clue what you are saying. 2010-07-14 13:05:15 < hallyn> ok thanks, I'll try this. 2010-07-14 13:05:30 < dba> everything that is live specific regarding initramfs tools is in the live-initramfs package 2010-07-14 13:05:43 < dba> (or, live-boot and live-boot-initramfs-tools) 2010-07-14 13:06:18 < hallyn> i'd gotten the feeling that the casper/initrd.img was created separately from the chroot. Sounds like no. 2010-07-14 13:07:51 < hallyn> well, I guess the reason I got that feeling is that I had a config/chroot_local-hooks/add_modules script which puts vfat into /etc/modules. But it ends up in the filesystem.squashfs, but is not reflected in the initrd 2010-07-14 13:08:25 < Kasreyn> even with initramfs-tools 0.97.2 i get the same message: "W: Bootloader in this image type not yet supported by live-helper." 2010-07-14 13:19:42 < dba> initramfs-tools doesn't have anything to do with live-helper or grub2. 2010-07-14 13:20:15 < dba> grub2 is only supported a) in newer versions of live-helper and b) for iso only. 2010-07-14 13:20:21 < dba> that is what that message above tells you. 2010-07-14 14:37:08 < hramrach_> hello 2010-07-14 14:37:23 < hramrach_> I tried to boot d-l on unionmount 2010-07-14 14:38:19 < hramrach_> It does not work but unionmount invocation is significantly different from the other union fs solutions 2010-07-14 14:38:50 < hramrach_> so I guess the patch might be helpful in case unionmoutn would be supported in the future 2010-07-14 14:38:54 < hramrach_> http://paste.debian.net/80433/ 2010-07-14 14:39:56 < hramrach_> dba: it's not complete, only the default code path is patched but you can see that unionmount is constructed differently 2010-07-14 14:41:00 < hramrach_> It requires patched kernel an util-linux 2010-07-14 14:41:42 -!- kaduk (kaduk) [~mateusz@142-mi2-5.acn.waw.pl] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 14:41:46 < kaduk> Hi 2010-07-14 14:41:53 < kaduk> dba, I can't boot live-sid 2010-07-14 14:42:10 < hramrach_> how does it fail? 2010-07-14 14:42:10 < kaduk> Write protecting the kernel read-only data: 4220k 2010-07-14 14:42:13 < kaduk> and thats all 2010-07-14 14:42:18 < kaduk> it stops on that 2010-07-14 14:42:27 < hramrach_> that's probably a kernel issue, not d-l 2010-07-14 14:42:37 < kaduk> I am trying on kvm -m 512 binary.img 2010-07-14 14:42:54 < hramrach_> kvm used to work for me 2010-07-14 14:44:25 < kaduk> I can try to put image on pendrive but I bet it will fail 2010-07-14 14:44:31 < kaduk> if it does not work on kvm 2010-07-14 14:44:47 < hramrach_> squeeze iso with experimental kernel boots for me and only fails because aufs is not in the kernel 2010-07-14 14:45:16 < kaduk> for me this started after I upgraded to live-helper from live.debian.net 2010-07-14 14:45:28 < kaduk> but downgrading to debian's one does not help, 2010-07-14 14:45:39 < kaduk> so I assume something has changed in debian 2010-07-14 14:46:50 < kaduk> hramrach_, thats my config http://debian.pastebin.com/Yt8UdGS9 2010-07-14 14:46:58 < kaduk> then I do lh build 2010-07-14 14:47:05 < kaduk> and kvm -m 512 binary.img 2010-07-14 14:47:40 < SynrG> btw, use -r live.debian.net 2010-07-14 14:48:03 < hramrach_> try removin quiet from the kernel command line and/or add debug=1 2010-07-14 14:49:25 < kaduk> SynrG, lh clean and the same lh config but with -r live.debian.net ? 2010-07-14 14:51:19 < kaduk> hramrach_, linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 2010-07-14 14:51:25 < kaduk> thats the kernel being installed 2010-07-14 14:54:40 < kaduk> SynrG, I would like to have my package on that image that has been uploaded to Debian two days ago 2010-07-14 14:54:47 < hramrach_> ah, amd64 2010-07-14 14:54:54 < hramrach_> I always do i386 builds 2010-07-14 14:55:15 < hramrach_> I have 2.6.32-15 version of hte above image for i686 2010-07-14 14:56:19 < hramrach_> can I append arbitrary optins to the kernel command line? I can't find a config otion for that 2010-07-14 14:56:56 < hramrach_> ah, bootappend 2010-07-14 14:57:57 < hramrach_> kaduk: what kvm version? 2010-07-14 14:58:21 < kaduk> qemu-kvm 0.12.4+dfsg-1 2010-07-14 14:59:07 < hramrach_> yes, that's what I have but I only use it for i386 emulation. Try without accel? 2010-07-14 14:59:38 < hramrach_> that sometimes helps with odd issues 2010-07-14 15:00:15 < kaduk> I am rebuilding image 2010-07-14 15:00:20 < kaduk> but I will try it 2010-07-14 15:08:24 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-14 15:10:39 < hramrach_> kaduk: I built a squeeze amd64 image and it boots for me in kvm 2010-07-14 15:10:52 < kaduk> with accel? 2010-07-14 15:11:12 < kaduk> maybe thats an issue 2010-07-14 15:11:24 < hramrach_> yes, with accel 2010-07-14 15:11:26 < kaduk> I will try in a few minutes without it 2010-07-14 15:11:47 < kaduk> hramrach_, what version of lh ? 2010-07-14 15:12:00 < kaduk> live-helper 2.0~a18+20100710.214446 2010-07-14 15:12:08 < hramrach_> 2.0~a18-1 2010-07-14 15:12:23 < kaduk> that's debian's version 2010-07-14 15:12:24 < hramrach_> but l-h should not affect kernel booting 2010-07-14 15:13:06 < kaduk> it stoped booting after I upgraded live-helper, but downgrading to 2.0~a18-1 does not solve the problem 2010-07-14 15:13:49 < hramrach_> I would suspect a kernel or kvm problem. That message appears rather early, right? 2010-07-14 15:13:56 < kaduk> I had booting in kvm image with debian's lh before, the problem was that it did not create user, so I upgraded to live.debian.net ones 2010-07-14 15:14:09 < kaduk> yes very realy in booting process 2010-07-14 15:14:56 < kaduk> mabe 30th line... not sure I did not count 2010-07-14 15:16:21 < hramrach_> It creates user for me 2010-07-14 15:17:21 < hramrach_> and it is really created with live-initramfs, not live-helper. So just -r live.debian.net should ensure it is created 2010-07-14 15:23:54 < hramrach_> hmm, the sid kernel version is different from squeeze 2010-07-14 15:25:33 < hramrach_> yes, it also locks up for me 2010-07-14 15:26:16 < hramrach_> and with -smp I can get multiple CPUs looping 2010-07-14 15:29:34 < dba> hramrach_: -smp? 2010-07-14 15:30:03 < hramrach_> yes, for kvm 2010-07-14 15:30:22 < hramrach_> with the unaccelerated qemu it boots slow but fine 2010-07-14 15:30:52 < dba> ah, nevermind.. i was confused and thinking of kernel flavours. 2010-07-14 15:35:32 < hramrach_> kaduk: what kernel version are you running on the KVM host? 2010-07-14 15:36:08 < hramrach_> or just add details once I send the bug, thare are quite a few 2010-07-14 15:37:06 < kaduk> hramrach_, according to lh build log "Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-amd64" 2010-07-14 15:37:15 < kaduk> so 2.6.32-5-amd 2010-07-14 15:37:37 < hramrach_> no, that's abi version, not the kernel version 2010-07-14 15:37:52 < kaduk> yes without kvm it boots slow, but does not lock up 2010-07-14 15:38:04 < kaduk> let me boot I will check 2010-07-14 15:38:20 < hramrach_> the abi version is the same in sid and squeeze but the kernel revision in squeeze is -15 and in sid -17 2010-07-14 15:42:20 < kaduk> takes ages to boot X 2010-07-14 15:42:59 < hramrach_> yes. I only do minimal images for testing. I just do --packages less 2010-07-14 15:48:20 < hramrach_> kaduk: bug #589055 2010-07-14 15:48:35 < kaduk> linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64_2.6.32-17_amd64.deb 2010-07-14 15:49:21 < kaduk> hramrach_, yes thats my bug 2010-07-14 15:49:38 < hramrach_> kaduk: if you have a different CPU or host kernel versio I suggest you add that to the bug 2010-07-14 15:49:53 < kaduk> hramrach_, its exacly the same 2010-07-14 15:50:32 < kaduk> I will copy image on usb hdd to check if it boots 2010-07-14 15:51:38 < hramrach_> you have the same CPU and kernel? Notice that I am runnig 2.6.34 on the host 2010-07-14 15:55:39 < hramrach_> see you 2010-07-14 15:56:51 < kaduk> no 2010-07-14 15:56:52 < kaduk> not CPU 2010-07-14 15:57:26 < kaduk> ok I will post 2010-07-14 16:20:50 -!- Father0fNine (Darren) [~Father0fN@207.225.184.101] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 16:44:30 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-14 17:21:01 < Father0fNine> Here is an interesting question. I want to be able to make changes to the configuration of a Live disk but I'm not familiar with the behind the scenes files. I make the changes through the software interfaces and let it worry about writing to all the necessary data files. 2010-07-14 17:22:02 < Father0fNine> Is there a way to produce a writeable image of the -Live CD... run it... make the changes I want to configurations... and end up with an image that can be turned into a -Live CD? 2010-07-14 17:22:50 < Father0fNine> An example of changes might be themes on desktop, location of icons and shortcuts... 2010-07-14 17:50:17 -!- Kasreyn [~i@h59ec10dc.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-14 17:50:21 -!- Kasreyn (Harman Smith) [~i@h59ec10dc.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 17:52:32 -!- adrian15b (adrian) [~adrian@150.Red-83-61-157.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 17:54:10 < adrian15b> I am checking http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto/USB and I am not very what's going to be the usb img name. I am using the stable distribution. Is it going to be debian-live-lenny-i386-standard.img ? Or maybe binary.img ? 2010-07-14 17:55:03 < dba> binary.img 2010-07-14 17:56:05 < SynrG> depends on if you download one from elsewhere or build it yourself. 2010-07-14 17:56:08 < SynrG> the page covers both 2010-07-14 17:56:15 < adrian15b> SynrG: Myself. 2010-07-14 17:56:27 < adrian15b> dba: Ok, perfect. 2010-07-14 17:57:02 < SynrG> the examples where it has a more complicated name are downloaded from elsewhere. obviously the file has to be renamed to make it more meaningful when made available for download. 2010-07-14 17:58:00 < adrian15b> SynrG: That's perfect. I was worried because I wanted to script this. Now my concerns are on lenny not supporting this usb-hdd option because of what I have seen here: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FirstStepsUSB 2010-07-14 17:58:30 < adrian15b> I will just try without all the extra commands from FirstStepsUSB and see what does happen 2010-07-14 18:01:52 < SynrG> adrian15b: hint. any page mentioning etch is hopelessly out of date 2010-07-14 18:02:19 < SynrG> adrian15b: hint #2: our official doc is in the live-manual at live.debian.net, not in the wiki, which is all slated for removal/integration into the manual 2010-07-14 18:04:37 < SynrG> with the exception of the addition of a single apostrophe in 2009, and some subsequent global changes made to every page in the whole wiki, the entire revision history of this wiki page dates back to 2007! 2010-07-14 18:05:09 < SynrG> you will find it useful to click "Info" on the wiki pages you encounter to check for freshness of the material as I just did :) 2010-07-14 18:06:12 < SynrG> dba: a candidate for straight out deletion, i think 2010-07-14 18:06:30 < SynrG> unless you're seeing something of value there that i'm not 2010-07-14 18:08:25 < adrian15b> SynrG: Thank you. I'll check the manual 2010-07-14 18:10:25 < dba> SynrG: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/FirstStepsUSB ? 2010-07-14 18:10:34 < SynrG> dba: yup 2010-07-14 18:22:27 < dba> SynrG: ack, i'll remove it. 2010-07-14 18:23:51 < dba> . 2010-07-14 18:26:49 < SynrG> dba: and deleted the only link to it i could find 2010-07-14 18:26:52 < SynrG> done 2010-07-14 18:27:10 < dba> i was looking for that, i didn't found one (and was surprised; 2010-07-14 18:27:20 < dba> you apparently already deleted it, which explains it :) 2010-07-14 18:27:24 < SynrG> DebianLive/Nameofpage "text" search 2010-07-14 18:27:30 < dba> SynrG++ 2010-07-14 18:27:31 < SynrG> just now :) 2010-07-14 18:28:01 < SynrG> gotta take some time to do a more aggressive purge sometime 2010-07-14 18:28:17 < SynrG> but at least starting with obsolete pages people come here looking for help with is a start :) 2010-07-14 18:28:28 < dba> SynrG: hold your breath, i'm finishing the work on tmp-sisu branch in the manual 2010-07-14 18:29:14 < dba> after that, the manual pages can be updated to squeeze, and the we can purge the rest of the wiki (that needs some move to the manual; purges without move can be done anyways) 2010-07-14 18:29:25 < dba> s/anyways/at all time/ 2010-07-14 18:29:47 -!- kaduk [~mateusz@142-mi2-5.acn.waw.pl] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-14 18:29:51 < SynrG> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/Howto?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=title%3ADebianLive+etch&fullsearch=Text 2010-07-14 18:29:55 < SynrG> three hits, all in one page: 2010-07-14 18:30:08 < SynrG> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLive/HowTo/SmallSizeImage 2010-07-14 18:30:47 < SynrG> hm, that search, despite the misleading URL, is of the whole site, not just our HowTos ... i think ... 2010-07-14 18:32:26 < SynrG> dba: aha! a purge of the whole wiki at once? that's less labour-intensive 2010-07-14 18:37:18 < dba> SynrG: no, but page by page resulting in, eventually, the whole w.d.o/DebianLive to be purged. 2010-07-14 18:38:05 < SynrG> ok. i'll put more effort into it as i go until then 2010-07-14 18:39:17 < SynrG> actually, the SmallSizeImage page itself is useful. would be more useful brought up-to-date, i'm sure, but i don't recall seeing anything like it in the manual 2010-07-14 18:54:10 -!- omry (Omry Yadan) [~omry@109.67.0.161] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 18:55:48 < Father0fNine> What is the difference betweent he web directory and the net directory for the squeeze iso images? 2010-07-14 18:56:54 < dba> web is for webboot, net is for netboot. 2010-07-14 18:57:32 < Father0fNine> Ahh... so no ISOs for squeezE? 2010-07-14 18:57:33 < dba> for webboot, see http://blog.daniel-baumann.ch/2007/09/07#20070907_debian-live-web-boot. 2010-07-14 18:57:40 < dba> for netboot, see manual. 2010-07-14 19:02:41 -!- adrian15b [~adrian@150.Red-83-61-157.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-14 19:22:56 -!- Kasreyn [~i@h59ec10dc.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-14 19:45:30 -!- Kasreyn (Harman Smith) [~i@h59ec10dc.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-14 21:56:20 -!- unixabg [~rjent@wsip-98-174-58-17.pn.at.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2010-07-14 22:06:15 < Father0fNine> Is there a ... a place to go to get the config tree (and auto tree if needed) to duplicate one of the existing images... to use as a base and modify? 2010-07-14 22:23:22 < dba> with one of the existing ones, you mean one of the officially prebuilt ones? 2010-07-14 22:23:28 < dba> if so, look at examples/cron/images.sh 2010-07-14 22:31:50 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-14 22:38:32 < Father0fNine> Yes that's exactly what I mean. 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Packages like xchat or iceweasel are not being added at final binary.iso file. Thank you very much! 2010-07-15 10:09:19 < SynrG> Kasreyn: wait until i get to work 2010-07-15 10:18:46 -!- foka [~foka@123.114.175.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-15 10:26:32 < Kasreyn> SynrG: ok :) 2010-07-15 10:28:41 < SynrG> Kasreyn: it is very simple if i recall correctly ... 2010-07-15 10:28:50 < SynrG> just a matter of including the plymouth package in your package list ... 2010-07-15 10:29:10 < Kasreyn> that would be awesome 2010-07-15 10:30:15 < SynrG> and ... hm. maybe one other thing 2010-07-15 10:30:19 < SynrG> digging through my irclog 2010-07-15 10:31:06 < Kasreyn> ok nice :) 2010-07-15 10:31:20 < Kasreyn> maybe boot option vga= and splash ? 2010-07-15 10:31:24 < SynrG> irclogs/debian-live-2010-03-27:11:53 < SynrG> so, in brief ... 'splash' in append, the plymouth packages in my package list, and a hook to enable the theme 2010-07-15 10:31:47 < Kasreyn> how do you do the hook thing? 2010-07-15 10:32:21 < SynrG> http://honk.sigxcpu.org/con/Boot_splashing_with_plymouth.html 2010-07-15 10:32:23 < SynrG> uh 2010-07-15 10:32:27 < SynrG> still looking :) 2010-07-15 10:33:53 < Kasreyn> can i use it with syslinux? 2010-07-15 10:34:13 < SynrG> i believe so yes 2010-07-15 10:34:41 < SynrG> dunno about the hook thing. that's just from my notes and that was when plymouth was new and not yet in squeeze 2010-07-15 10:35:33 < Kasreyn> so, LH_PACKAGES_LISTS="plymouth" ? 2010-07-15 10:35:51 < SynrG> ah! just see the commands in the URL i pasted 2010-07-15 10:35:59 < SynrG> no ... 2010-07-15 10:36:07 < SynrG> that's for package lists 2010-07-15 10:37:06 < Kasreyn> right i know that just wondering 2010-07-15 10:37:14 < SynrG> it looks like minimally you just need to include plymouth and one theme 2010-07-15 10:37:24 < SynrG> and then select the theme (that's what the hook business was about :) 2010-07-15 10:37:35 < SynrG> you can just make a local hook that does that 2010-07-15 10:37:48 < SynrG> the doc i linked to explains 2010-07-15 10:38:40 < Kasreyn> where do i run plymouth-set-default-theme ? 2010-07-15 10:39:58 < SynrG> ... 2010-07-15 10:40:03 < SynrG> in a local hook, like i said :) 2010-07-15 10:40:17 < Kasreyn> ok how? 2010-07-15 10:40:22 < SynrG> you've never used hooks? 2010-07-15 10:40:24 < Kasreyn> nope 2010-07-15 10:40:29 < SynrG> first read the live-manual 2010-07-15 10:40:33 < SynrG> then see me if you have questions 2010-07-15 10:40:52 < Kasreyn> alright 2010-07-15 10:41:02 -!- mictlan__ [~mictlan@189.188.150.238] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-15 10:42:18 < Kasreyn> you mean this? http://live.debian.net/manual/en/html/contents.html#hooks 2010-07-15 10:43:23 < Kasreyn> that doesn't tell me much 2010-07-15 10:43:31 < SynrG> haha 2010-07-15 10:43:37 < SynrG> fun 2010-07-15 10:43:44 < SynrG> i forgot that section was not yet done 2010-07-15 10:43:47 < SynrG> um, maybe in the wiki then 2010-07-15 10:44:53 < SynrG> basically a hook works like this ... 2010-07-15 10:45:14 < SynrG> you make a script in config/chroot_local-hooks 2010-07-15 10:45:17 < Kasreyn> right, so plymouth-set-default-theme solar in a #!/bin/sh in config/chroot_local-hooks ? 2010-07-15 10:45:21 < SynrG> you do whatever command you want 2010-07-15 10:45:23 < SynrG> the end :) 2010-07-15 10:45:29 < SynrG> yup 2010-07-15 10:45:39 < Kasreyn> ok thanks for helping out 2010-07-15 10:46:17 < SynrG> damn, that's too easy. maybe i could write up a slightly more polished version of that for the manual later today 2010-07-15 10:46:25 < SynrG> gotta work right now tho 2010-07-15 10:46:36 < SynrG> the doc should also point at example hooks 2010-07-15 10:47:06 < SynrG> in /usr/share/live-helper/examples/hooks/ 2010-07-15 10:47:16 < SynrG> lots of good, self-documenting examples there 2010-07-15 10:47:24 < Kasreyn> ah ok 2010-07-15 10:47:54 < SynrG> tell me how it goes :) 2010-07-15 11:13:41 -!- [fFf]1 [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-15 11:18:32 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 12:43:08 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@bas1-montreal42-1178046718.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 13:07:47 < Kasreyn> E: config/chroot_local-hooks/plymouth failed (exit non-zero). You should check for errors. 2010-07-15 13:07:51 < Kasreyn> how do i check for errors? 2010-07-15 13:09:08 < SynrG> did your package list include both plymouth and the solar theme package? 2010-07-15 13:09:37 < SynrG> just scroll up a bit :) 2010-07-15 13:09:42 < SynrG> i mean in your build log 2010-07-15 13:09:42 < Kasreyn> yeah i did 2010-07-15 13:09:56 < Kasreyn> that's it. can i set it verbose? 2010-07-15 13:10:01 < SynrG> add: 2010-07-15 13:10:02 < SynrG> set -x 2010-07-15 13:10:04 < Kasreyn> or do i have to do lh clean again 2010-07-15 13:10:14 < SynrG> at the top of your script after the hashbang 2010-07-15 13:10:22 < Kasreyn> hmm ok 2010-07-15 13:10:49 < SynrG> you could rm .stage/something and rerun it 2010-07-15 13:10:54 < SynrG> sec ... 2010-07-15 13:12:06 < SynrG> hm, i see no .stage/chroot_local-hooks in my build tree ... 2010-07-15 13:12:19 < Kasreyn> nether do i 2010-07-15 13:13:05 < SynrG> you could try: lh chroot_local-hooks and see if it reruns properly 2010-07-15 13:13:34 < Kasreyn> P: Begin executing local hooks... 2010-07-15 13:13:34 < Kasreyn> + plymouth-set-default-theme solar 2010-07-15 13:13:34 < Kasreyn> E: config/chroot_local-hooks/plymouth failed (exit non-zero). You should check for errors. 2010-07-15 13:14:05 < SynrG> huh. i wonder why it returns non-zero status? 2010-07-15 13:14:15 < SynrG> if you think the command ran correctly you could just: 2010-07-15 13:14:16 < SynrG> exit 0 2010-07-15 13:14:19 < SynrG> at the end of the script 2010-07-15 13:14:34 < SynrG> but that's kinda kludgy 2010-07-15 13:14:54 < SynrG> any doc for plymouth-set-default-theme? 2010-07-15 13:15:32 < SynrG> you could chroot chroot and look around 2010-07-15 13:16:08 < SynrG> if there's some command to query the currently set theme ... 2010-07-15 13:16:13 < SynrG> or some config file to check ... 2010-07-15 13:16:16 < SynrG> dunno 2010-07-15 13:16:36 < SynrG> and you could run the command interactively and see if something happens that somehow isn't looged 2010-07-15 13:16:39 < SynrG> logged* 2010-07-15 13:19:00 < Kasreyn> i donno, i did exit 0; will see what happens 2010-07-15 13:19:34 < Kasreyn> if you run plymouth-set-default-theme without arguments it prints a name 2010-07-15 13:48:47 < SynrG> oh, the name of the currently selected theme, then? 2010-07-15 13:51:28 < Kasreyn> probably 2010-07-15 13:51:37 -!- Kryczek [kryczek@jade.gemnetworks.com] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-15 13:51:54 < dba> the whole plymouth scripts are somewhat buggy 2010-07-15 13:52:05 < SynrG> dba: hence the non-zero return status? 2010-07-15 13:52:14 < SynrG> dba: so 'exit 0' is a valid workaround? 2010-07-15 13:52:15 < dba> also, there's some trouble with to tightened depends i think 2010-07-15 13:52:27 < dba> SynrG: yes; 2010-07-15 13:52:36 < Kasreyn> well it's working 2010-07-15 13:52:48 < Kasreyn> but i still get a few lines of text at boot 2010-07-15 13:53:01 < Kasreyn> fixed by quiet i guess 2010-07-15 13:53:06 < dba> jup 2010-07-15 13:53:33 < dba> and if anyone has insights on this: 2010-07-15 13:53:35 < dba> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=587557 2010-07-15 13:53:55 < dba> i'd be greateful. last time i looked at it, i couldn't spot the cause. 2010-07-15 13:59:10 < SynrG> dba: i submitted a manual update. no reporting in channel here of those? 2010-07-15 13:59:14 < SynrG> cia bot i mean 2010-07-15 13:59:49 < SynrG> gave some actual content to the Hooks section 2010-07-15 14:01:12 < SynrG> dba: re #587557, that looks wonky :) yeah, if-and-when i do my own playing with plymouth i'll have a look. right now it's pretty low on my list of priorities tho. 2010-07-15 14:01:44 < SynrG> Kasreyn: do you see #587557 errors in your log? 2010-07-15 14:02:03 < dba> SynrG: i've disabled cia bot for that repo for a while, since i was pushing non-fastforward for a couple of times on tmp-sisu 2010-07-15 14:02:10 < SynrG> aha 2010-07-15 14:02:15 < dba> (in order to not make so much noise) 2010-07-15 14:02:21 < dba> i'll switch it on afterwards. 2010-07-15 14:02:27 < dba> .oO(unless you like noise :) 2010-07-15 14:03:14 < dba> hm, but git pull doesn't give me anything new on the debian branch. 2010-07-15 14:03:22 < dba> when/where have you pushed? 2010-07-15 14:13:21 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@bas1-montreal42-1178046718.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-15 14:22:00 < Kasreyn> SynrG: can't say i recognize the error 2010-07-15 14:29:41 < SynrG> dba: hrm ... 2010-07-15 14:30:10 < SynrG> To gitosis@live.debian.net:/live-manual.git 0cab70d..2e3c771 debian -> debian 2010-07-15 14:30:13 < SynrG> synrg@lear:~/projects/live-manual$ 2010-07-15 14:30:19 < SynrG> is this wrong? 2010-07-15 14:32:13 < dba> SynrG: no, that's right. 2010-07-15 14:32:22 < SynrG> then we have a mystery 2010-07-15 14:32:33 < dba> SynrG: but anyhow, just to be sure.. could you push again and stell me the outpu? 2010-07-15 14:33:02 < SynrG> commit 2e3c771d8388b89a32c9af8ec9d39d1e0b19ab8f 2010-07-15 14:33:02 < SynrG> Author: Ben Armstrong 2010-07-15 14:33:02 < SynrG> Date: Thu Jul 15 09:58:35 2010 -0300 2010-07-15 14:33:02 < SynrG> Add content to Hooks section 2010-07-15 14:33:09 < SynrG> k 2010-07-15 14:34:03 < SynrG> dba: http://paste.debian.net/80521/ 2010-07-15 14:35:15 < dba> ok, now it's indeed there. 2010-07-15 14:35:51 < dba> it could be that when i did a 'git push --force' to update the tmp-sisu branch, 2010-07-15 14:36:09 < dba> that it also overwrote debian, but that should actually not be possible, hmm. 2010-07-15 14:37:04 < SynrG> ah 2010-07-15 14:43:19 < dba> i'll test that later if that's really true, if so, i'll have to make sure it never happens again (by configuring git differently i guess) 2010-07-15 14:43:34 < dba> but now shower and breakfast first. 2010-07-15 14:44:24 -!- mictlan__ (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.150.238] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 14:44:25 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.150.238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-15 14:51:05 -!- mictlan__ [~mictlan@189.188.150.238] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-15 15:13:01 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-15 15:13:43 -!- Dad0f9_away is now known as Father0fNine 2010-07-15 15:14:15 < Father0fNine> what is the reason for no CD images of squeeze-live? 2010-07-15 15:14:36 < lindi-> Father0fNine: you can generate your own with the web interface, it changes constantly 2010-07-15 15:16:24 < Father0fNine> Hmmm... maybe I should give it a try. I was trying not to tie up debian resources "needlessly" 2010-07-15 15:17:15 < lindi-> Father0fNine: if you report bugs it is worthwhile :) 2010-07-15 15:17:27 < Father0fNine> lol :) 2010-07-15 15:17:44 < Father0fNine> Ok, could you tell me,then, if KDE packages-list will also include openoffice? 2010-07-15 15:20:44 -!- mictlan_1 (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.138.106] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 15:22:29 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.150.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-15 15:56:34 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-15 16:03:50 < Father0fNine> wow! the email notice was blocked by Barracuda as spam based on the "host reputation" with Barracuda database 2010-07-15 16:06:58 < adrian15b> Am I supposed to run lh config in one line or can I run it in several lines? That might explain why I cannot add some packages. 2010-07-15 16:07:59 < adrian15b> Here there is what I mean by several lines: http://paste.debian.net/80498/ I mean running lh config several times before running lh build 2010-07-15 16:09:48 -!- jstein (Jonas Stein) [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-247-79.netcologne.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 16:31:42 < SynrG> adrian15b: don't do that 2010-07-15 16:31:50 < SynrG> defaults won't be set correctly 2010-07-15 16:31:59 < SynrG> the *first* lh establishes defaults 2010-07-15 16:32:32 < SynrG> thereafter, any config variable you change will change *only that one config variable*. any dependent variables that were supposed to default automatically from your choice won't. 2010-07-15 16:32:58 < SynrG> for readability, just use \ 2010-07-15 16:33:25 < SynrG> lh config -p gnome-core \ 2010-07-15 16:33:31 < adrian15b> SynrG: Ok, let me paste one thing so that you check it in a second 2010-07-15 16:33:36 < SynrG> --packages "zenity iceweasel xchat wmctrl" \ 2010-07-15 16:33:44 < SynrG> --mirror-bootstrap "http://192.168.0.50/debian/" --mirror-chroot "http://192.168.0.50/debian" 2010-07-15 16:36:01 < adrian15b> SynrG: http://paste.debian.net/80534/ 2010-07-15 16:36:35 < adrian15b> SynrG: packages then... I actually do not understand what's the differences between -p and --packages, more than this -p is used a lot in wiki documentation and FAQ examples 2010-07-15 16:36:44 < adrian15b> SynrG: Thank you very much. I was getting crazy. 2010-07-15 16:37:02 < dba> -p is a shortcut for --packages-lists 2010-07-15 16:37:57 < SynrG> yes. short switch names are fine for typing when you do things by hand but i find when i write scripts i use long switch names to make them self-documenting 2010-07-15 16:38:28 < SynrG> the wiki doc that uses it is written lazily :p 2010-07-15 16:38:44 < dba> .oO(which, if space and speed isn't an issue as e.g. in initramfs, then that's what probably everyone should do) 2010-07-15 16:38:45 < SynrG> and is all supposed to be superceded by live-manual anyway 2010-07-15 16:40:25 < adrian15b> SynrG: I know. I learnt it yesterday 2010-07-15 16:40:49 < adrian15b> SynrG: Let me check the manual in order to improve it because I suppose there are some many things that are not clear 2010-07-15 16:42:01 < adrian15b> SynrG: The manual is perfect 2010-07-15 16:42:23 < adrian15b> SynrG: I support the wiki wipe reinvidication from yesterday ;) 2010-07-15 16:51:47 -!- mictlan_1 [~mictlan@187.132.138.106] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-15 16:52:01 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@187.132.138.106] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 16:56:02 < SynrG> adrian15b: anyway, back to your paste ... 2010-07-15 16:56:04 < SynrG> -p "gnome-core zenity iceweasel xchat wmctrl" 2010-07-15 16:56:07 < SynrG> this is incorrect 2010-07-15 16:56:29 < SynrG> there is a gnome-core package list 2010-07-15 16:56:35 < SynrG> but the rest of these things are packages 2010-07-15 16:56:43 < SynrG> see /usr/share/live-helper/lists/gnome-core 2010-07-15 16:57:13 < SynrG> this should really read: --packages-lists gnome-core --packages "zenity iceweasel xchat wmctrl" 2010-07-15 16:57:38 < dba> or in other words: packages lists (= files with packages names in it) and packages (= names of packages) are not the same. 2010-07-15 17:00:03 -!- jstein [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-247-79.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-15 17:04:04 < adrian15b> SynrG: Hummm... I see.. I thought that gnome-core was also a meta package or whatever... Thank you very much 2010-07-15 17:06:26 -!- sirrus14 (sirrus) [~sirrus@p4FFD0FD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 17:06:35 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 17:07:00 -!- sirrus14 [~sirrus@p4FFD0FD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 2010-07-15 17:12:22 < SynrG> adrian15b: it is both. 2010-07-15 17:13:06 -!- sirrus14 (sirrus) [~sirrus@p4FFD0FD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 17:13:11 -!- sirrus14 [~sirrus@p4FFD0FD2.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [] 2010-07-15 17:13:18 < SynrG> adrian15b: read the gnome-core list in the directory i pointed you to. it includes gnome-core (the package) plus a few other things necessary to for the live system to work well 2010-07-15 17:13:33 < SynrG> s/to for/for/ 2010-07-15 17:14:49 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * ra808d1e live-boot/debian/copyright: Adding Chris in copyright file (for live-snapshot that is). 2010-07-15 17:15:20 < BTS> live-boot (NEW) 2.0~a1-1 uploaded to experimental by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-15 17:15:28 < BTS> live-boot (NEW) 2.0~a2-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-15 17:15:38 < BTS> live-boot (NEW) 2.0~a3-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-15 17:15:48 < BTS> live-boot (NEW) 2.0~a4-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-15 17:15:58 < BTS> live-boot (NEW) 2.0~a5-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-15 17:16:09 < BTS> live-boot (NEW) 2.0~a6-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) (Closes: #584690) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-15 17:16:19 < BTS> live-boot (NEW) 2.0~a7-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-15 17:16:37 < BTS> Closed #584690 in live-initramfs by Daniel Baumann (daniel) «fail to tell sendsigs to not kill its process during shutdown». http://bugs.debian.org/584690 2010-07-15 17:16:41 < BTS> live-boot (NEW) 2.0~a8-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-15 17:16:45 < BTS> live-boot (NEW) 2.0~a9-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-15 17:16:50 < BTS> live-boot (NEW) 2.0~a10-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-15 17:17:04 < BTS> live-boot (NEW) 2.0~a11-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-15 17:17:13 < BTS> live-boot (NEW) 2.0~a12-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) (Closes: #588307) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-15 17:17:24 < BTS> live-config (NEW) 2.0~a1-1 uploaded to experimental by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-15 17:17:32 < BTS> live-config (NEW) 2.0~a2-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-15 17:17:41 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@187.132.138.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-15 17:17:44 < BTS> live-config (NEW) 2.0~a3-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) (Closes: #583533) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-15 17:17:54 < BTS> live-config (NEW) 2.0~a4-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-15 17:18:02 < BTS> live-config (NEW) 2.0~a5-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-15 17:18:11 < BTS> live-config (NEW) 2.0~a6-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-15 17:18:21 < BTS> live-config (NEW) 2.0~a7-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-15 17:18:35 < BTS> live-config (NEW) 2.0~a8-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-15 17:18:45 < BTS> live-config (NEW) 2.0~a9-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-15 17:18:55 < BTS> live-config (NEW) 2.0~a10-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-15 17:19:05 < BTS> live-config (NEW) 2.0~a11-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-15 17:19:16 < BTS> live-config (NEW) 2.0~a12-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-15 17:19:28 < BTS> Closed #583533 in live-initramfs by Daniel Baumann (daniel) «policykit grants all permissions even with nosudo». http://bugs.debian.org/583533 2010-07-15 17:19:32 < BTS> Closed #588307 in live-initramfs by Daniel Baumann (daniel) «Unreachable code in Arguments». http://bugs.debian.org/588307 2010-07-15 17:20:45 < adrian15b> SynrG: I just have done it and you are right 2010-07-15 17:22:45 -!- unixabg [~rjent@wsip-98-174-58-17.pn.at.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-15 17:25:26 < dba> .oO(rollercoaster!) 2010-07-15 17:27:24 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r25d8e20 live-config/ (Makefile manpages/Makefile): Improving test targets in Makefile a bit. 2010-07-15 17:27:28 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r831ce1d live-config/manpages/Makefile: Improving clean target in manpages Makefile a bit. 2010-07-15 17:27:28 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * ra5bf213 live-config/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a13-1. 2010-07-15 17:27:29 < CIA-11> daniel debian * re38728c live-config/bin/update-live-config.sh: Because lxde still uses gdm instead of gdm3 on squeeze, also including gdm config scripts when building on squeeze and newer. 2010-07-15 17:27:34 < CIA-11> daniel upstream * rc825976 live-config/ (10 files in 9 dirs): Adding upstream version 2.0~a13. 2010-07-15 17:27:40 < CIA-11> daniel pristine-tar * r1d029a1 live-config/ (2 files): Adding pristine-tar version 2.0~a13. 2010-07-15 17:27:40 < CIA-11> daniel debian * ra5bf213 live-config/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a13-1. 2010-07-15 17:30:35 < CIA-11> daniel debian * read4e8a live-boot/manpages/ (8 files in 4 dirs): Listing fromiso parameter in manpage (Closes: #588667). 2010-07-15 17:30:36 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r3f588cd live-boot/ (Makefile manpages/Makefile): Improving test targets in Makefile a bit. 2010-07-15 17:30:37 < CIA-11> daniel debian * ra808d1e live-boot/debian/copyright: Adding Chris in copyright file (for live-snapshot that is). 2010-07-15 17:30:38 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r4178366 live-boot/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a13-1. 2010-07-15 17:30:39 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r54a5ad0 live-boot/manpages/Makefile: Improving clean target in manpages Makefile a bit. 2010-07-15 17:30:48 < CIA-11> daniel pristine-tar * rb4c4029 live-boot/ (2 files): Adding pristine-tar version 2.0~a13. 2010-07-15 17:30:49 < CIA-11> daniel upstream * re0f8a3e live-boot/ (11 files in 6 dirs): Adding upstream version 2.0~a13. 2010-07-15 17:30:50 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r4178366 live-boot/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a13-1. 2010-07-15 17:32:03 < adrian15b> SynrG: What should I look into a mounted iso image ... that tells me what are the packages installed inside it so that I check if actually they are installed or not... before uploading the image to public download? Thank you. 2010-07-15 17:32:08 < BTS> live-config 2.0~a13-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-15 17:33:19 < SynrG> adrian15b: the most reliable way to verify an image is to boot it on the intended hardware. however, a 'binary.packages' file is generated for a successful build 2010-07-15 17:33:35 < SynrG> adrian15b: when i upload an image, i upload all of the build products too, which includes this file 2010-07-15 17:48:09 < BTS> live-boot 2.0~a13-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) (Closes: #588667) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-15 17:49:25 < BTS> Closed #588667 in live-initramfs by Daniel Baumann (daniel) «please add fromiso in manpage». http://bugs.debian.org/588667 2010-07-15 17:59:50 < adrian15b> SynrG: Ok, thank you 2010-07-15 18:00:32 < SynrG> i also use md5sum to generate an .md5 of the image 2010-07-15 18:00:46 < SynrG> and upload that with it 2010-07-15 18:01:11 < adrian15b> SynrG: Yes, it's on my TODO list, adding a line for generating md5sum 2010-07-15 18:01:12 -!- ortseamo (purple) [~clovek@chello085216149067.chello.sk] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 18:01:17 -!- ortseamo [~clovek@chello085216149067.chello.sk] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-15 18:01:39 < adrian15b> SynrG: I just want to focus on these packages that are never put in the image... so that they are actually put 2010-07-15 18:34:40 < SynrG> dba: /win 7 2010-07-15 18:34:43 < SynrG> argh 2010-07-15 18:36:08 < SynrG> dba: now i wonder what i was going to really say. ah, yeah, the czech on the list who probably needs -r live.debian.net ... just didn't want to answer if you're going to handle it (but i proabably don't have time before going out for errands to answer now anyway) 2010-07-15 18:36:37 < SynrG> unless i keep it short and sweet :) the post was so long ... 2010-07-15 18:36:52 < SynrG> and tbh i read the first bit and only skimmed the rest 2010-07-15 18:38:14 < SynrG> no. i'm not going to answer. to do it properly i should cite bug# and point at the finally accepted new versions, and don't have the time to pull all of the background together. 2010-07-15 18:38:20 < SynrG> later 2010-07-15 18:39:54 < adrian15b> Am I supposed to find the manually specified packages in "cache/packages_chroot" ? 2010-07-15 18:44:03 < SynrG> i have never looked in the cache. and that's a strange way to find out what packages are there 2010-07-15 18:44:15 < SynrG> are the packages you specified in binary.packages? 2010-07-15 18:44:22 < SynrG> you can: 2010-07-15 18:44:24 < SynrG> chroot chroot 2010-07-15 18:44:29 < SynrG> dpkg -l packagename 2010-07-15 18:44:41 < SynrG> when you're done, exit the chroot with: 2010-07-15 18:44:41 < SynrG> exit 2010-07-15 18:45:46 < adrian15b> hummm 2010-07-15 18:45:49 < adrian15b> let me check 2010-07-15 18:46:04 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@wsip-98-174-58-17.pn.at.cox.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 18:46:09 < adrian15b> The squashfs is building right now by the way but it seems to me that iceweasel is not there 2010-07-15 18:46:44 < SynrG> if you've logged your build you will be able to see if there are any errors relating to that 2010-07-15 18:46:51 < SynrG> just grep the log for iceweasel 2010-07-15 18:47:14 < SynrG> i really have to run. errands 2010-07-15 18:47:14 < SynrG> later 2010-07-15 18:47:26 < adrian15b> I have not logged it :( Thank you SynrG and run! 2010-07-15 18:48:23 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-155-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-15 18:49:45 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 18:51:26 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@187.132.138.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-15 19:05:41 -!- adrian15b [~adrian@193.153.197.151] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-15 19:30:03 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-15 19:31:55 < Father0fNine> What is the most windows-like desktop from live? 2010-07-15 19:37:45 < unixabg> Father0fNine, well I generally build gnome 2010-07-15 19:43:10 < Father0fNine> The default Gnome on my desktop would not be intuitive for the average joe off the street used to Windows... and I am *not* retraining.. 2010-07-15 19:44:53 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-15 19:53:46 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 19:57:35 -!- undebug (undebug) [~undebug@95.120.145.122] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 19:58:43 < Kasreyn> Father0fNine: i'd say gnome also. but it's more like mac really 2010-07-15 20:02:51 < dba> Father0fNine: the most windows like is probably kde 3.5.x, 2010-07-15 20:03:09 < dba> but this is discontinued, and the new kde 4.$something is, well, quite different. 2010-07-15 20:04:16 < dba> SynrG: i probably missed the 'czech guy'. hmm 2010-07-15 20:04:53 < dba> SynrG: ah, nevermind.. it was hidden between all those dak/bts spam. 2010-07-15 20:05:20 < hallyn> The --mirror-chroot and --mirror-chroot-security don't seem to apply to all of the image build process. TO get everything going though the mirror, I have to set --mirror-binary as well, even though I don't want that mirror used in the end target system. Is this known/expected? 2010-07-15 20:09:59 < dba> if you don't want --mirror-binary* to be, you set it to the same values that you're using for --mirror-chroot*, yes. 2010-07-15 20:10:24 < dba> if you don't want any indices in the binary at all, you can use --binary-indices false. 2010-07-15 20:13:46 -!- pbn (Pierre Bauduin) [pbn@k-lined.info] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 20:14:10 -!- pbn [pbn@k-lined.info] has quit [] 2010-07-15 20:14:11 -!- pbn (Pierre Bauduin) [pbn@wopr.geekshells.org] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 20:14:18 < hallyn> what i want is for the whole live-helper process to go through mirrors, and for the target's /etc/apt/sources.list to not have those mirrors... that doesn't seem to be an option (through presumably i coudl use chroot_local-includes, but that's hacky and doesn't match the docs) 2010-07-15 20:14:45 < hallyn> (the image builder can't reach the one set of mirrors, the target can't reach the other) 2010-07-15 20:15:39 < dba> so you want different values for --mirror-binary* and --mirror-chroot*. 2010-07-15 20:15:45 < dba> but don't want them to be resolved. 2010-07-15 20:15:50 < dba> (the binary ones) 2010-07-15 20:16:04 < dba> that's what --binary-indices false should do. and if it doesn't, it's a bug. 2010-07-15 20:16:12 < hallyn> i don't know what you mean by 'resolved' 2010-07-15 20:16:22 < hallyn> ok, lemme try that, thanks 2010-07-15 20:16:34 < dba> we do a 'apt-get update' in order to have the indices in the image. 2010-07-15 20:16:39 < hallyn> OH! 2010-07-15 20:16:44 < hallyn> got it. yeah, that'll be it then. thanks 2010-07-15 20:16:49 < dba> (unless you do --binary-indices false) 2010-07-15 20:17:45 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2010-07-15 20:18:09 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 20:18:49 < Father0fNine> dba: Yea, I noticed that. I thought it was KDE from the last time I burned a -Live image but when I just did it now it looked.... different. Dang. 2010-07-15 20:21:05 -!- undebug [~undebug@95.120.145.122] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-15 20:23:25 < dba> kde4 is kind of horrible, but i'm biased as i've always liked gnome better anyway. 2010-07-15 20:24:33 < Father0fNine> I've always liked wmaker :D but that one would really not work... and I'm trying not to have to roll my own image. It takes me 3-4 hours per change. 2010-07-15 20:28:49 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-155-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 20:35:57 < dba> Father0fNine: heh, i've used wmaker for a couple of years, until i switched to wmii2 in 2005. 2010-07-15 20:43:51 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-15 20:53:35 < SynrG> dba: yes. that's why i brought him to your attention. i thought he might be easily missed 2010-07-15 20:58:12 < dba> SynrG: thank you, very appreciated. 2010-07-15 21:10:18 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-15 21:34:24 -!- flypiper [~mb_@75-149-68-164-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-15 21:54:39 -!- mictlan__ (kb) [~mictlan@189.130.165.143] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-15 21:56:35 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@187.132.138.106] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-15 21:57:44 -!- harobed 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live-config/scripts/config.sh: Prefixing some forgotten internal variables. 2010-07-15 23:41:07 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r6cea24b live-config/scripts/config.sh: Adding live-config.noautologin parameter to disable both console and graphical autologin. 2010-07-15 23:41:19 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r6efe308 live-config/manpages/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Updating manpages to reflect addition of live-config.noautologin parameter. 2010-07-15 23:42:48 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r0eac333 live-config/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a14-1. 2010-07-15 23:42:55 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rcbaa213 live-config/bin/update-live-config.sh: Prefixing local variables in update-live-config script. 2010-07-15 23:42:56 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rf0e4e72 live-config/examples/live-config-foobar/debian/control: Updating example package to standards 3.9.0. 2010-07-15 23:42:57 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r37c4cda live-config/bin/update-live-config.sh: Adding check for lsb_release in update-live-config script. 2010-07-15 23:42:58 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r3e71970 live-config/examples/README: Adding README for example debian package. 2010-07-15 23:42:59 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r437b2dd live-config/manpages/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Regenerating manpages po files. 2010-07-15 23:43:00 < CIA-11> daniel debian * ra11a663 live-config/examples/live-config-foobar/debian/copyright: Adding note about live-config in copyright file of live-config-foobar example package. 2010-07-15 23:43:05 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r64c423c live-config/scripts/config.sh: Enabling short options (foo instead of live-config.foo). 2010-07-15 23:43:07 < CIA-11> daniel debian * ra8354bb live-config/manpages/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Updating manpages to reflect that short options are enabled now. 2010-07-15 23:43:09 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rfdfea83 live-config/manpages/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Updating manpages to reflect that the gdm script was reenabled for squeeze and newer. 2010-07-15 23:43:10 < 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debian-next * rae32c85 live-config/bin/update-live-config.sh: Correcting typo in update-live-config script. 2010-07-15 23:46:09 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r2458096 live-config/Makefile: Also including bin directory in test target of makefile. --- Day changed Fri Jul 16 2010 2010-07-16 00:00:20 < BTS> live-config 2.0~a14-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-16 00:22:52 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@bas1-montreal42-1177927917.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 01:29:18 < dba> tiagovaz: are you comming to debconf? 2010-07-16 01:30:49 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@bas1-montreal42-1177927917.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-16 01:34:26 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@bas1-montreal42-1178030200.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 01:42:22 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rb503e26 live-config/docs/TODO: Updating TODO file. 2010-07-16 01:56:05 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r081269d live-config/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Adding ureadahead script (ubuntu only). 2010-07-16 01:59:48 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r799653d live-config/bin/update-live-config.sh: Removing debian specific scripts when being used on ubuntu. 2010-07-16 02:01:11 -!- Jordan_U_ (Jordan Uggla) [~jordan@adsl-76-254-19-98.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 02:03:11 -!- Jordan_U [~jordan@adsl-99-155-195-215.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-16 02:22:53 -!- rhaeder1 (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-148-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 02:28:52 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-155-152.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-16 03:01:31 < BTS> Closed #578407 in live-initramfs by daniel@debian.org «does not load bnx2x firmware». http://bugs.debian.org/578407 2010-07-16 03:08:55 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r6ca1539 live-helper/functions/defaults.sh: Updating defaults to also add try-usb parameter for cdrom-detect when building iso-hybrid images with included debian-installer. 2010-07-16 03:10:58 < CIA-11> daniel * r3ad956d wiki-content/project/status.mdwn: Updating project status page. 2010-07-16 03:32:14 -!- foka (Anthony Fok) [~foka@58.30.27.46] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 05:32:35 -!- fabo [~fabo@esprx02x.nokia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-16 05:51:35 -!- fabo (Fathi Boudra) [~fabo@esprx02x.nokia.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 05:55:37 -!- fabo [~fabo@esprx02x.nokia.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-16 06:55:25 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@bas1-montreal42-1178030200.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-16 07:14:24 < Kasreyn> anyone know how to add splashy splash at boot? 2010-07-16 07:14:33 < Kasreyn> do i need any hooks for it? 2010-07-16 07:14:39 < Kasreyn> or can i just include the package 2010-07-16 07:20:28 -!- foka [~foka@58.30.27.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-16 08:00:29 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 08:47:25 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 08:47:56 < SynrG> splashy's in the faq in think 2010-07-16 08:52:49 < Kasreyn> in the wiki but it doesn't say much 2010-07-16 09:33:32 -!- adrian (adrian) [~adrian@141.Red-79-146-105.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 09:33:41 -!- adrian is now known as adrian15b 2010-07-16 09:34:17 < adrian15b> Hi SynrG and company, --packages "package1 package2" seems to be ignoring me. Can I email you the build.log where iceweasel is not anywhere on it ? 2010-07-16 10:02:19 < adrian15b> I am finally going to use a package list and that's it 2010-07-16 10:17:38 < dba> adrian15b: paste your complete lh config call to a pastebin, e.g. paste.debian.net, and attach the full build log. 2010-07-16 10:19:04 < adrian15b> dba: I am sorry. I have deleted the log. I can try to replicate the old lh config call though. 2010-07-16 10:19:27 < adrian15b> I suppose it might be a lenny problem 2010-07-16 10:20:54 < dba> very unlikely, lenny works quite well. 2010-07-16 10:22:33 < adrian15b> dba: Here you are: http://paste.debian.net/80616/ 2010-07-16 10:23:19 < adrian15b> dba: The --packages is option is for packages that you need in the build process and not inside the working live cd ? That's it? I thought that they were intented for working live cd, and that was not true? Maybe? 2010-07-16 10:23:47 < adrian15b> BTW, making a custom packages list is working ok 2010-07-16 10:35:03 < SynrG> no. --packages is for packages in the live system 2010-07-16 10:35:12 < SynrG> and that config looks correct. please pastebin an entire build log 2010-07-16 10:36:12 < SynrG> incidentally, i suggested you use \ to break up your long lh config line. you missed that suggestion? 2010-07-16 10:36:45 < SynrG> lh_config --switch1 value1 --switch2 value2 \ 2010-07-16 10:36:51 < SynrG> --switch3 value3 etc. 2010-07-16 10:37:02 < SynrG> makes it a lot more readable 2010-07-16 10:37:25 < SynrG> \ must be the last character on the line and indicates the line is continued on the next line 2010-07-16 10:37:35 < Kasreyn> bathouse: http://static.feber.se/article_images/14/47/87/144787.png 2010-07-16 10:40:18 < SynrG> :) 2010-07-16 10:40:38 < adrian15b> SynrG: Yes, I know that I can use \... but I just wanted to put it in a single line so that there was no problem at all 2010-07-16 10:41:03 < SynrG> that's unnecessarily paranoid and makes the people who help you suffer because they have to scroll to see the whole thing :p 2010-07-16 10:41:07 < adrian15b> SynrG: You'll have to wait till current build with custom packages list finishes 2010-07-16 10:41:41 < adrian15b> SynrG: And I'll try to run the non-working calls again 2010-07-16 10:41:52 < SynrG> i have all day :) 2010-07-16 10:50:18 < dba> :) 2010-07-16 10:51:01 < SynrG> adrian15b: in general, whether you think you'll need it or not, don't clean up your build logs :P 2010-07-16 10:51:33 < SynrG> will save you time when looking for help here 2010-07-16 10:51:57 < adrian15b> SynrG: The problem is about temporal files and I use a virtual machine to build it and I do not want to get bigger and bigger but... yes... I will try not to delete the logs 2010-07-16 10:52:06 < dba> SynrG: fyi, in live-config, the parameters changed a bit compared to live-boot (not much thogugh), 2010-07-16 10:52:13 < SynrG> ah 2010-07-16 10:52:17 < dba> SynrG: since the last upload, the 'short' parameters are supported too 2010-07-16 10:52:30 < SynrG> short? 2010-07-16 10:52:41 < dba> SynrG: so you can e.g. use 'locales=$whatever' instead of 'live-config.locales=$whatever'. 2010-07-16 10:53:20 < dba> anyone using it should be having a look at the manpage, which is complete and up2date. 2010-07-16 10:57:59 < SynrG> ah! ok 2010-07-16 10:58:04 < SynrG> tnx 2010-07-16 11:52:36 -!- fabo (Fathi Boudra) [~fabo@esprx01x.nokia.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 12:28:15 -!- hendry [~hendry@webvm.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-16 12:29:34 -!- hendry (Kai Hendry) [~hendry@webconverger.org] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 13:54:13 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-16 14:30:03 -!- jstein (Jonas Stein) [~jstein@xdsl-81-173-175-120.netcologne.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 15:06:04 -!- Father0fNine (Darren) [~Father0fN@207.225.184.101] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 15:06:08 -!- Father0fNine [~Father0fN@207.225.184.101] has quit [] 2010-07-16 15:06:24 -!- Dad0f9_away is now known as Father0fNine 2010-07-16 15:10:32 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-16 15:13:00 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.130.165.143] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 15:22:09 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@bas1-montreal42-1178030200.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 15:49:53 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.130.165.143] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-16 16:29:45 < dba> now preparing another upload of live-config with the kde4 keyboard selector thinggie, 2010-07-16 16:29:57 < dba> then triggering build of squeeze alpha2 images. 2010-07-16 16:34:58 < SynrG> nice 2010-07-16 16:35:59 < dba> now i just need to call my other so that she switches the ppc buildd on :) 2010-07-16 16:36:19 < SynrG> :) 2010-07-16 16:37:38 < dba> hopefully i didn't forget to plugin the network cable, otherwise it gets complicated. 2010-07-16 16:40:36 < SynrG> ah, yeah 2010-07-16 16:41:33 < SynrG> video chat on a netbook taken into the machine room to guide your assistant :) 2010-07-16 16:45:29 < BTS> live-installer 20 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-installer 2010-07-16 16:50:57 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r9ca7500 live-config/docs/TODO: Updating TODO file. 2010-07-16 17:01:04 -!- cody-somerville [~cody-some@d24-36-56-180.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-16 17:04:56 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 17:12:44 < Father0fNine> Am I correct? Initramfs does it's magic even before grub comes into play? 2010-07-16 17:19:18 < BTS> Opened #589326 in live-boot 2.0~a13-1 by Bill Allombert (ballombe) «circular dependency with live-boot-initramfs-tools». http://bugs.debian.org/589326 2010-07-16 17:20:41 < adrian15b> Father0fNine: If you are talking about boot (not build of an image) grub always come before initrd if you are not using isolinux 2010-07-16 17:47:45 < dba> ok.. ppc is running now :) 2010-07-16 17:50:50 < SynrG> woohoo 2010-07-16 17:57:42 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r072bd0d live-config/manpages/ (fr/live-config.fr.7 po/fr/live-config.7.po): Improving and updating French manpage translation. 2010-07-16 17:59:08 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 18:00:57 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rb420ff3 live-config/debian/control: Improving backend dependencies. 2010-07-16 18:01:56 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r05bb736 live-boot/debian/control: Improving backend dependencies (Closes: #589326). 2010-07-16 18:16:31 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r1ea981c live-config/ (11 files in 7 dirs): Adding example hooks. 2010-07-16 18:28:25 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r248232c live-config/manpages/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Correcting manpage syntax regarding multiple locales. 2010-07-16 18:29:31 -!- undebug (undebug) [~undebug@95.120.145.122] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 18:31:26 -!- d0rt [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-16 18:31:49 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 18:54:02 -!- adrian15b [~adrian@141.Red-79-146-105.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-16 18:55:47 -!- d0rt [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-16 19:02:53 < Father0fNine> Manual talks about needing to copy-and-modify /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/live-bottom/10adduser if you want to change the user password for live ... but that file doesn't exist on my installation of live-helper... has it changed? 2010-07-16 19:04:40 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rcda3e10 live-helper/ (26 files in 7 dirs): Updating syslinux splash screen for squeeze. 2010-07-16 19:04:51 < dba> Father0fNine: depends; which distribution are you building? 2010-07-16 19:05:31 < Father0fNine> squeeze ... but I have (I think) live-helper from sid a few weeks back 2010-07-16 19:06:31 < dba> once again.. live-helper is only relevant for buildtime things, not runtime things. 2010-07-16 19:07:04 < dba> i assume you use -r live.debian.net; 2010-07-16 19:07:16 < dba> then you get live-boot + live-config instead of live-initramfs. 2010-07-16 19:07:55 < dba> or in other words: look at /lib/live/config/???-user-setup 2010-07-16 19:19:25 < Father0fNine> I don't use -r live.debian.net (what is -r live.debian.net?) I think I actually use live... oh.... hmmm... 2010-07-16 19:21:08 < Father0fNine> is /lib/live something that shows up during the lh build process? 2010-07-16 19:31:41 -!- otavio [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-16 19:31:47 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 19:38:40 -!- undebug [~undebug@95.120.145.122] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-16 19:53:07 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r6152c95 live-config/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Adding filesystem and media options to hook script to automatically execute hooks in default locations. 2010-07-16 19:53:09 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rd24503d live-config/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Allowing to combine different hook methods at the same time. 2010-07-16 20:02:42 < Father0fNine> does anybody have an example of live-config/live-boot being used from lh_config? 2010-07-16 20:03:11 -!- jstein_ (Jonas Stein) [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-247-85.netcologne.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 20:03:59 < dba> Father0fNine: what for? 2010-07-16 20:07:51 < Father0fNine> well.... a static IP addressed lxde system with "patient" as the user name and a root password of uqw34A.... :D and failing that, something where I can see parameters in use. 2010-07-16 20:08:09 < Father0fNine> I learn best by action/example 2010-07-16 20:09:54 -!- jstein [~jstein@xdsl-81-173-175-120.netcologne.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-16 20:09:59 < dba> Father0fNine: did you read 'man live-config'? 2010-07-16 20:13:49 < Father0fNine> dba: I did and I *think* I understand. That's where an example or two would be helpful for me 2010-07-16 20:16:41 < dba> Father0fNine: lh config --bootappend-live "live-config.username=whatever" 2010-07-16 20:17:05 < Father0fNine> Ok.. so still use bootappend... seperated by spaces? 2010-07-16 20:17:28 < dba> yes 2010-07-16 20:17:36 < dba> if you use new enough live-config, 2010-07-16 20:17:54 < dba> you can also use the shorter versions of the parameters (username=whatever), 2010-07-16 20:18:00 < dba> check the manpage of your used version. 2010-07-16 20:20:28 < Father0fNine> oh... I've been reading the manpage from whatever is in sid-snapshots of live.debian.net.... I downloaded the source and checked out the manpages that way. Do they have to be installed or are they installed into the live system during build the same way initramfs was? 2010-07-16 20:23:35 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r08e5b21 live-config/scripts/config/106-kde-services: Preconfiguring kxkb to show kde keyboard selector when using multiple layouts. 2010-07-16 20:24:15 < Father0fNine> Mostly I'm trying to figure out how to modify (for example, no password for default user instead of "live" or a knows root password instead of *) 2010-07-16 20:24:26 < Father0fNine> how to modify scripts and where to put them 2010-07-16 20:25:08 < dba> live-config doesn't support passwort setting (yet); 2010-07-16 20:25:15 < dba> you'll need a custom script for that 2010-07-16 20:25:33 < dba> look at /usr/share/doc/live-config/examples/README 2010-07-16 20:25:39 < dba> and the section about Customization in man live-config. 2010-07-16 20:39:49 < Father0fNine> I see where I can modify 002-user-setup. I'm just trying to figure out what is the "best" way to make sure my user-setup is used, not the pacakges... Life was so much easier when I could just download everything form webconver and go... 2010-07-16 20:42:45 < dba> you can still use webc 2010-07-16 20:43:02 < dba> if you want webc, then use webc. 2010-07-16 20:44:51 < dba> unrelated to that, the two minutes job of reading man live-config and update your stuff for it is worth it, 2010-07-16 20:45:23 < dba> especially when you'll see that booting is in average 36 seconds faster (for the gnome-desktop image) 2010-07-16 20:46:11 < dba> SynrG: after alpha2, what do you think if we tell live-helper to build en_US.UTF-8 locales by default 2010-07-16 20:46:16 < Father0fNine> I'm going to make the changes to the kiosk disks next week. First task, we now need disk-less computers with word processor, printing, and Internet... So webc won't work for the second type of image 2010-07-16 20:46:34 < dba> SynrG: so that live-config is in the case of en_US.UTF-8 not building the locales anymore (which speeds it up considerably). 2010-07-16 20:58:46 -!- Father0fNine is now known as Dad0f9_away 2010-07-16 20:58:56 -!- Dad0f9_away is now known as Father0fNine 2010-07-16 21:39:29 -!- jstein_ [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-247-85.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2010-07-16 22:26:24 < dba> soo.. the kde keyboard selector stuff works now.. 2010-07-16 22:26:27 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r011653c live-config/scripts/config/106-kde-services: Ensuring that kde configuration is owned by the live user. 2010-07-16 22:30:17 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * ra9d1c07 live-config/scripts/config/106-kde-services: Updating kxkbrc default values. 2010-07-16 22:35:54 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r7c22630 live-boot/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a14-1. 2010-07-16 22:37:04 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r05bb736 live-boot/debian/control: Improving backend dependencies (Closes: #589326). 2010-07-16 22:37:05 < CIA-11> daniel upstream * r452b0dc live-boot/ (9 files in 5 dirs): Adding upstream version 2.0~a14. 2010-07-16 22:37:14 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r7c22630 live-boot/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a14-1. 2010-07-16 22:37:15 < CIA-11> daniel pristine-tar * ra1afe5b live-boot/ (2 files): Adding pristine-tar version 2.0~a14. 2010-07-16 22:45:45 < BTS> live-boot 2.0~a14-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) (Closes: #589326) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-16 22:49:36 < BTS> Closed #589326 in live-boot by Daniel Baumann (daniel) «circular dependency with live-boot-initramfs-tools». http://bugs.debian.org/589326 2010-07-16 22:50:26 < CIA-11> daniel debian * re7571ab live-config-staging/scripts/config/902-apt-upgrade: Also using Start_network function in apt-upgrade script. 2010-07-16 23:10:16 < BTS> Opened #589361 in live-config by Daniel Baumann (daniel) «kde shutdown asks for open sessions». http://bugs.debian.org/589361 2010-07-16 23:13:07 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-16 23:14:18 -!- foka (Anthony Fok) [~foka@123.114.175.134] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-16 23:16:01 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r2458096 live-config/Makefile: Also including bin directory in test target of makefile. 2010-07-16 23:16:12 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rae32c85 live-config/bin/update-live-config.sh: Correcting typo in update-live-config script. 2010-07-16 23:16:13 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rb503e26 live-config/docs/TODO: Updating TODO file. 2010-07-16 23:16:14 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r081269d live-config/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Adding ureadahead script (ubuntu only). 2010-07-16 23:16:17 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r799653d live-config/bin/update-live-config.sh: Removing debian specific scripts when being used on ubuntu. 2010-07-16 23:16:18 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r248232c live-config/manpages/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Correcting manpage syntax regarding multiple locales. 2010-07-16 23:16:19 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r08e5b21 live-config/scripts/config/106-kde-services: Preconfiguring kxkb to show kde keyboard selector when using multiple layouts. 2010-07-16 23:16:22 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rb420ff3 live-config/debian/control: Improving backend dependencies. 2010-07-16 23:16:22 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r1ea981c live-config/ (11 files in 7 dirs): Adding example hooks. 2010-07-16 23:16:23 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rd485a6f live-config/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a15-1. 2010-07-16 23:16:24 < CIA-11> daniel debian * ra9d1c07 live-config/scripts/config/106-kde-services: Updating kxkbrc default values. 2010-07-16 23:16:25 < CIA-11> daniel pristine-tar * r531ea9a live-config/ (2 files): Adding pristine-tar version 2.0~a15. 2010-07-16 23:16:29 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r072bd0d live-config/manpages/ (fr/live-config.fr.7 po/fr/live-config.7.po): Improving and updating French manpage translation. 2010-07-16 23:16:30 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r011653c live-config/scripts/config/106-kde-services: Ensuring that kde configuration is owned by the live user. 2010-07-16 23:16:32 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rd24503d live-config/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Allowing to combine different hook methods at the same time. 2010-07-16 23:16:33 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r6152c95 live-config/ (7 files in 7 dirs): Adding filesystem and media options to hook script to automatically execute hooks in default locations. 2010-07-16 23:16:33 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r9ca7500 live-config/docs/TODO: Updating TODO file. 2010-07-16 23:16:34 < CIA-11> daniel upstream * r8a51661 live-config/ (18 files in 11 dirs): Adding upstream version 2.0~a15. 2010-07-16 23:16:45 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rd485a6f live-config/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a15-1. 2010-07-16 23:30:53 < BTS> live-config 2.0~a15-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config --- Day changed Sat Jul 17 2010 2010-07-17 00:54:52 -!- foka [~foka@123.114.175.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-17 00:57:04 < SynrG> dba: that sounds quite reasonable. 2010-07-17 02:24:11 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-220-136-195.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 02:29:23 -!- rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-148-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-17 05:01:51 -!- Kasreyn [~i@h59ec10dc.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-17 07:48:58 -!- felkor (felkor) [~felkor@a213-22-37-154.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 07:50:36 < felkor> good morning, I can't find live-helper git repoitory in http://live.debian.net/gitweb. What happen? 2010-07-17 07:51:57 < felkor> i guess its a gitweb problem cause I can download live-helper with "git clone git://live.debian.net/git/live-helper". 2010-07-17 08:08:15 -!- Kasreyn (Harman Smith) [~i@h59ec10dc.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 08:38:48 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 08:40:09 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 2010-07-17 08:40:21 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 10:03:38 < SynrG> felkor: gitweb is for browsing the repos on the web 2010-07-17 10:25:09 < felkor> hi SynrG , yeah I know, I use it for browsing the code. but today (don't know since when) live-helper code isn't available in the gitweb of http://live.debian.net/gitweb. 2010-07-17 10:25:37 < felkor> live-boot/config/magic/etc is there, but not live-helper 2010-07-17 10:31:52 < SynrG> ah. it's there. just not in the index for some reason 2010-07-17 10:31:55 < SynrG> click on a repo 2010-07-17 10:31:59 < SynrG> change the name to live-helper.git 2010-07-17 10:32:28 < felkor> lol, great, it worked 2010-07-17 10:32:30 < SynrG> dba: http://live.debian.net/gitweb index broken? 2010-07-17 10:32:34 < felkor> thanks SynrG 2010-07-17 10:32:46 < SynrG> dba: missing some repos. live-helper isn't there. 2010-07-17 10:34:20 < felkor> another thing, i've noticed last few weeks that while browsing live-helper in gitweb, gitweb doesn't show the latest changes. 2010-07-17 10:34:49 < felkor> for example now, the latest update in live-helper (in gitweb) was 6 days ago. 2010-07-17 10:35:03 < SynrG> migrated elsewhere then? 2010-07-17 10:35:09 * SynrG looks at live.debian.net ... 2010-07-17 10:35:40 < felkor> i don't think so. when a new package is released gitweb gets updated then. 2010-07-17 10:36:23 < felkor> but in the meanwhile it only shows the changes until the last package build. 2010-07-17 10:37:00 < SynrG> what commits were made since 6 days ago that aren't in gitweb, then? 2010-07-17 10:37:51 < felkor> i think several looking at the maillist. usually we see "fixed in git" but gitweb doest show it. 2010-07-17 10:39:02 < SynrG> scroll down to 'heads' 2010-07-17 10:39:23 < SynrG> look at '15 hours ago' in branch debian-next 2010-07-17 10:40:26 < felkor> how do i "scroll down to head"? 2010-07-17 10:40:41 < SynrG> are you looking at gitweb's summary page for the repo? 2010-07-17 10:40:46 < SynrG> http://live.debian.net/gitweb/?p=live-helper.git 2010-07-17 10:40:47 < felkor> yes 2010-07-17 10:40:57 < SynrG> scroll down to the bottom of the page where there is a heading called 'heads' 2010-07-17 10:41:03 < SynrG> under that you will see what i just pointed out 2010-07-17 10:41:15 < felkor> ah 2010-07-17 10:41:19 < felkor> yes, i see it 2010-07-17 10:41:38 < SynrG> you need to switch to that branch to get the new material 2010-07-17 10:41:48 < felkor> ok, i got it. thanks again SynrG :) 2010-07-17 10:41:51 < SynrG> np 2010-07-17 11:21:55 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@87.18.220.137] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 11:35:02 < SynrG> dba: blargh. using -d squeeze -r live.debian.net update-initramfs fails: 2010-07-17 11:35:05 < SynrG> df: Warning: cannot read table of mounted file systems: No such file or directory 2010-07-17 11:35:08 < SynrG> cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/live-boot/languagelist': No such file or directory 2010-07-17 11:35:11 < SynrG> E: /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/live failed with return 1. 2010-07-17 11:35:13 < SynrG> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-686 2010-07-17 11:35:56 < SynrG> doing a second build, checking mtab etc. to ensure i didn't somehow have leftovers from a prior failed build. 2010-07-17 11:36:18 < SynrG> if this fails again, will do a minimal test case. 2010-07-17 11:57:35 -!- pbn [pbn@wopr.geekshells.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-17 11:58:02 -!- pbn (Pierre Bauduin) [pbn@k-lined.info] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 12:11:49 < SynrG> dba: yes. fails with a minimal test in a clean dir 2010-07-17 12:28:29 < zumbi> dba: ayt 2010-07-17 12:29:45 < zumbi> dba: i was trying to get `slock', now moved to `suckless-tools' (unstable), but it seems there is no package built for amd64, even it is an all arch. 2010-07-17 12:29:59 < zumbi> dba: weird.. 2010-07-17 12:34:28 < dba> felkor, SynrG: gitweb 'fixed'. i had a leftover checkout of live-helper alongside live-helper.git in the repository directory, 2010-07-17 12:35:13 < dba> so gitweb then apparently doesn't show a repo anymore. anyway.. removed the leftovers, now it's correctly displayed. 2010-07-17 12:37:37 < dba> SynrG: checking live-boot thing you mentioned.. 2010-07-17 12:38:08 < dba> zumbi: when i look at suckless-tools/debian/control, then i see arch any for suckless-tools. 2010-07-17 12:39:20 < dba> zumbi: also, when i look at the amd64 buildd, everything is right: 2010-07-17 12:39:22 < dba> https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=suckless-tools;ver=35-1;arch=amd64;stamp=1279215560 2010-07-17 12:40:39 < zumbi> dba: when i look http://packages.debian.org/sid/suckless-tools there is no amd64 2010-07-17 12:41:16 < zumbi> dba: when i try to install from amd64 machine I get an E: (E: Package suckless-tools has no installation candidate) 2010-07-17 12:41:36 < zumbi> dba: I guess it is no package fault, but something wrong in the archive? 2010-07-17 12:43:51 < dba> zumbi: yes, but that is because the package was built but not yet signed 2010-07-17 12:44:37 < dba> dba: see https://buildd.debian.org/pkg.cgi?pkg=suckless-tools 2010-07-17 12:44:37 < zumbi> dba: oh! i see - thanks 2010-07-17 12:44:48 < dba> (built != installed) 2010-07-17 12:45:44 < zumbi> dba: uff, my wrong then, apologies for the noise 2010-07-17 12:46:34 < dba> no problem :) 2010-07-17 13:05:10 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-17 13:17:48 -!- felkor [~felkor@a213-22-37-154.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Quit: Saindo] 2010-07-17 13:21:45 < SynrG> dba: meanwhile, i presume sid builds are fine? this is what you used for alpha2? 2010-07-17 13:25:28 < dba> SynrG: i'm using live-{boot,config,installer} from sid, but rest from squeeze 2010-07-17 13:25:34 < dba> (don't want to wait until stuff migrates) 2010-07-17 13:37:45 * SynrG nods 2010-07-17 13:37:57 < SynrG> how are you doing that? just drop the pkgs in config/chroot_packages? 2010-07-17 13:38:11 < SynrG> i'm just curious because i dabbled with pinning a while back 2010-07-17 13:38:16 < SynrG> not sure if it's worth the effort tho 2010-07-17 13:39:47 < dba> since i'm building release images, and therefore the source tarballs need to be self-contained, 2010-07-17 13:39:58 < dba> i put the packages into config/chroot_local-packages, yes. 2010-07-17 13:46:08 < SynrG> i'm thinking my auto hook should handle that sort of thing 2010-07-17 13:46:20 < SynrG> in a SID_PACKAGES='pkg1 pkg2 pkg3' 2010-07-17 13:46:22 < SynrG> or some such 2010-07-17 13:46:36 < SynrG> in auto/config 2010-07-17 13:46:56 < SynrG> the idea being, it should wget them 2010-07-17 13:47:20 < SynrG> the downside of this is inability to control which versions 2010-07-17 13:47:57 < SynrG> normally this is not a problem for me, though. i just wouldn't use the feature if i had to guarantee a newer version appearing in sid wouldn't ruin things for me 2010-07-17 13:48:45 < SynrG> but this is just a workaround for inability for package lists to handle this themselves. i think i proposed something some weeks back :) 2010-07-17 14:11:36 < dba> hmpf 2010-07-17 14:11:46 < dba> they broke squeeze wrt/ kernel migration 2010-07-17 14:12:58 < dba> ah, ignore me, that's a local problem. 2010-07-17 14:17:05 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * re3b729e live-boot/hooks/live: Making inclusion of languagelist conditional in live hook. 2010-07-17 14:25:51 < SynrG> :) 2010-07-17 14:26:10 < SynrG> how long does it take for the autobuild to pick it up and put it in snapshots? 2010-07-17 14:26:16 < dba> it's already updated 2010-07-17 14:26:20 < SynrG> cool 2010-07-17 14:28:33 < dba> hm, but it still fails for some reason 2010-07-17 14:31:49 < SynrG> ah 2010-07-17 14:32:25 < SynrG> i'll cancel my build, then, until you sort it out 2010-07-17 14:34:09 < dba> i'll let you know as soon as it's fixed, 2010-07-17 14:34:14 < dba> shouldn't take more than a few minutes. 2010-07-17 14:38:05 < SynrG> mhm 2010-07-17 15:00:35 < dba> this is very strange.. 2010-07-17 15:00:55 < dba> it fails for antother reason, but it only fails, when the package is taken from a repo, 2010-07-17 15:01:02 < dba> it doesnt fail when it's in chroot_local-packages. 2010-07-17 15:01:26 < dba> so, i'm running the hook with -x now from another repo to actually see the error. 2010-07-17 15:09:07 < dba> SynrG: got it 2010-07-17 15:09:18 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r17feeef live-boot/debian/control: Updating depends of live-initramfs transitional package to reflect relaxed backend depends. 2010-07-17 15:09:23 < dba> SynrG: rebuilding snapshots, and a quick rebuild to verify, but should be ok 2010-07-17 15:09:36 < SynrG> good. tnx 2010-07-17 15:10:32 < dba> thanks for spotting it ;) 2010-07-17 15:12:25 < SynrG> np :) 2010-07-17 15:12:59 < dba> ok, snapshots are updated.. 2010-07-17 15:13:41 -!- SynrG [~synrg@blk-30-136-205.eastlink.ca] has quit [Quit: wop] 2010-07-17 15:13:57 -!- SynrG (Ben Armstrong) [~synrg@blk-30-136-205.eastlink.ca] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 15:16:57 < dba> SynrG: works. 2010-07-17 15:18:21 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r12f51bc live-boot/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a15-1. 2010-07-17 15:18:34 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r12f51bc live-boot/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a15-1. 2010-07-17 15:18:36 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r17feeef live-boot/debian/control: Updating depends of live-initramfs transitional package to reflect relaxed backend depends. 2010-07-17 15:18:47 < CIA-11> daniel debian * re3b729e live-boot/hooks/live: Making inclusion of languagelist conditional in live hook. 2010-07-17 15:19:32 < CIA-11> daniel upstream * r2fb509c live-boot/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Adding upstream version 2.0~a15. 2010-07-17 15:19:33 < CIA-11> daniel pristine-tar * r462e7e5 live-boot/ (2 files): Adding pristine-tar version 2.0~a15. 2010-07-17 15:43:51 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r8be7f45 live-helper/examples/cron/images.sh: Updating image autobuild script for squeeze alpha2. 2010-07-17 15:45:37 < SynrG> yay. build ran cleanly 2010-07-17 15:45:39 < SynrG> now to test 2010-07-17 15:47:47 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rb1787df live-helper/examples/cron/images.sh: Updating image autobuild script for squeeze alpha2. 2010-07-17 15:48:42 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rc16acb6 live-helper/examples/cron/images.sh: Updating image autobuild script for squeeze alpha2. 2010-07-17 15:50:30 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rc264bbf live-helper/examples/cron/images.sh: Updating image autobuild script for squeeze alpha2. 2010-07-17 15:55:44 -!- otavio [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-17 15:58:07 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r735a2bd live-helper/examples/cron/images.sh: Updating image autobuild script for squeeze alpha2. 2010-07-17 16:01:24 < dba> so.. amd64 and i386 images are building happily now.. 2010-07-17 16:01:48 < BTS> live-boot 2.0~a15-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-17 16:09:50 < dba> powerpc running now too.. 2010-07-17 16:09:50 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r7bde002 live-helper/examples/cron/images.sh: Updating image autobuild script for squeeze alpha2. 2010-07-17 17:55:42 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 18:14:49 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@87.18.220.137] has quit [Read error: Operation timed out] 2010-07-17 18:18:46 -!- cuba33ci 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fine. it's just that we still have the problem of live-installer-launcher not getting past cdrom-detect 2010-07-17 19:24:53 < SynrG> anything i can do to help debug? 2010-07-17 19:26:46 < dba> SynrG: you're aware that you either need to use --debian-installer-distribution daily 2010-07-17 19:27:01 < dba> or patch the files manually as described in live.debian.net/other/cdrom-detect/ 2010-07-17 19:27:26 < dba> (and use cdom-detect/try-usb=true; but lh from git does that for you already) 2010-07-17 19:35:56 < SynrG> i do use daily 2010-07-17 19:36:17 < dba> hm 2010-07-17 19:36:24 < SynrG> the issue is that while i do have cdrom-detect/try-usb=true and booting the installer is fine ... 2010-07-17 19:36:33 < SynrG> doing it from the launcher fails pretty much the same way as before 2010-07-17 19:36:35 < dba> ah, right.. i forgot that 2010-07-17 19:36:57 < dba> the launcher needs to get the cdrom-detect/try-usb preseeded, otherwise it of course doesn't work. 2010-07-17 19:37:07 < dba> let me have a look.. 2010-07-17 19:37:10 < SynrG> ok 2010-07-17 19:38:45 < SynrG> i'll grab some food while you think about it :) 2010-07-17 19:47:35 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 20:26:01 < SynrG> dba: progress? 2010-07-17 20:26:41 < dba> SynrG: the image to test it is still building; 2010-07-17 20:26:57 < dba> you know.. building a desktop image isn't that fast on ideapads :( 2010-07-17 20:28:17 < SynrG> ah. yeah :/ 2010-07-17 20:28:37 -!- Kamping_Kaiser [~kgoetz@140.186.70.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-17 20:28:50 * coruja is also building a squeeze image right now 2010-07-17 20:28:58 < SynrG> i haven't yet tried this on my 1001px. heh 2010-07-17 20:28:58 < SynrG> i've been messing with multitouch ... 2010-07-17 20:28:59 < SynrG> my synaptics doesn't directly support it, but it can be emulated 2010-07-17 20:29:08 < SynrG> updating the SynapticsTouchpad page in the wiki with what i've learned 2010-07-17 20:29:15 -!- Kamping_Kaiser (Karl Goetz) [~kgoetz@140.186.70.35] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 20:30:34 < coruja> and i have noticed gladfully that (after some mocking) torrent files have arrived on the image server :) 2010-07-17 20:31:14 < coruja> (which i'm sharing and spreading of course) 2010-07-17 20:32:27 < dba> coruja: yeah, finally. 2010-07-17 20:34:56 < coruja> and still just limited progess with making the squeeze live image installable 2010-07-17 20:35:37 < Kasreyn> SynrG: heh. i'm installing debian squeeze to a 1001PX right now 2010-07-17 20:35:39 < coruja> lately, it stops after installing the files at partman-lvm, just before finishing 2010-07-17 20:36:14 < coruja> and the syslog complains about missing installation candidate for console-setup 2010-07-17 20:36:31 < coruja> still using the daily installer of course 2010-07-17 20:37:33 < Kasreyn> lenny doesn't have the required network card modules for Eee PCs, have to use squeeze 2010-07-17 20:38:01 < Kasreyn> with squeeze it worked right away 2010-07-17 20:46:30 < dba> yay, image finished.. now writing to the stick.. 2010-07-17 20:46:56 < SynrG> clapclap 2010-07-17 20:47:05 < dba> haha 2010-07-17 20:47:16 < dba> SynrG: btw, when do you arrive in nyc exactely? 2010-07-17 20:47:47 < SynrG> ah. on the 31st 2010-07-17 20:47:50 < SynrG> in the evening 2010-07-17 20:48:24 < SynrG> the plan is to leave the afternoon of the 30th by bus to drive to new brunswick where i stay overnight with david bremner and his wife. then next morning we drive all day to NYC 2010-07-17 20:48:24 < dba> hmm 2010-07-17 21:03:13 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * ra9a3f81 live-config/scripts/config/108-live-installer-launcher: Adding workaround for bug in install calls wrt/ permissions of intermediate directories. 2010-07-17 21:03:16 < dba> SynrG: the '~/Desktop is owner by root:root' is fixed with this commit. 2010-07-17 21:03:26 < SynrG> dba: ah, good 2010-07-17 21:05:37 < dba> the 'doesn't find cdrom' is reproducible (not that i doubted it, but anyway) 2010-07-17 21:05:54 < SynrG> good. glad it's not just me :) 2010-07-17 21:06:37 < dba> it's easy to fix.. i just need a couple of minutes trying out a couple of things to see which of the simplest ways works 2010-07-17 21:06:49 < SynrG> excellent 2010-07-17 21:17:51 < dba> just found another bug 2010-07-17 21:17:59 < SynrG> ooh, goodie 2010-07-17 21:18:14 < SynrG> what is it? 2010-07-17 21:18:39 < dba> if it doesn't find the media, and therefore isn't 'overloading' the exit functions yet within d-i, 2010-07-17 21:18:47 < dba> then, the 'Abort installation item' from mainmenu doesn't work. 2010-07-17 21:18:55 < SynrG> ah 2010-07-17 21:19:06 < dba> it's not so much of an issue, however, bug against live-installer-launcher is filed. 2010-07-17 21:19:09 < SynrG> yeah 2010-07-17 21:19:17 < BTS> Opened #589453 in live-installer-launcher by Daniel Baumann (daniel) «'Abort the installation' in main menu not working». http://bugs.debian.org/589453 2010-07-17 21:19:41 < dba> ok, bug found with cdrom-detect. 2010-07-17 21:19:57 < dba> it's very simple.. at the time where cdrom-detect is looking for the stuff, 2010-07-17 21:20:12 < dba> neither proc nor sysfs are mounted, so it cannot find anything even when it's looking for it. 2010-07-17 21:20:25 < SynrG> ahh 2010-07-17 21:20:45 < dba> this is funny, because this doesn't seem to be an issue when using cdroms 2010-07-17 21:21:07 < SynrG> strange 2010-07-17 21:21:09 < dba> (proc and sys are mounted at a later stage in d-i iirc; but here we need it earlier already) 2010-07-17 21:21:31 < dba> so i'll simply try having it bindmounted from the beginning, that should do it then. 2010-07-17 21:21:43 < SynrG> k 2010-07-17 21:22:20 < dba> it's a bit annoying that the 'Abort installation' doesn't work, 2010-07-17 21:22:22 -!- jstein (Jonas Stein) [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-241-56.netcologne.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 21:22:28 < dba> since now i have to reboot after each attempt. 2010-07-17 21:22:55 < SynrG> ugh 2010-07-17 21:23:40 < SynrG> without calling the Abort it doesn't properly rundown the install leaving junk in the install environment rendering your test environment useless, you mean? 2010-07-17 21:23:58 < SynrG> i.e. not normally an issue for a user 2010-07-17 21:24:38 < dba> exactely, yes. 2010-07-17 21:24:49 < dba> hm, we do bindmount all the crap at the beginning, 2010-07-17 21:24:59 < dba> so for some reason d-i is unmounting them later again. 2010-07-17 21:26:09 < SynrG> huh 2010-07-17 21:29:00 < SynrG> heh. i was poking around my workspace on the netbook and did an 'lh clean' which inexplicably seems to take forever, until i realized ... 2010-07-17 21:29:04 < SynrG> i'm cleaning it over nfs ... 2010-07-17 21:29:10 < SynrG> over wireless 2010-07-17 21:29:15 < SynrG> ouch 2010-07-17 21:29:19 < dba> heh 2010-07-17 21:34:48 < dba> crap 2010-07-17 21:35:24 < dba> i think d-i chokes on the fact, that the live kernel is different from the one in d-i (-486 vs -686 flavour, 2010-07-17 21:35:49 < dba> so it fails to find the modules since it's looking for -686 instead of -486) 2010-07-17 21:36:03 < dba> will rebuild an image with -486. 2010-07-17 21:36:09 < dba> which will take a while.. 2010-07-17 21:37:53 < SynrG> ick 2010-07-17 21:41:04 -!- jstein [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-241-56.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-17 21:45:47 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-17 21:54:28 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 22:37:35 < coruja> main-menu: INFO: Menu item 'live-installer' succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured. 2010-07-17 22:38:19 < coruja> that's the last line of the syslog while stopping the installation as mentioned above 2010-07-17 22:38:56 < coruja> during the final steps of system installation 2010-07-17 22:39:56 < dba> SynrG: next try with new image.. 2010-07-17 22:40:22 < SynrG> here's hoping 2010-07-17 22:47:51 < dba> hm, no luck in the first try.. *thinking* 2010-07-17 22:58:53 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-17 23:09:40 < dba> SynrG: i give up for the moment, i'll talk to otavio about this next week. 2010-07-17 23:16:13 < CIA-11> daniel debian * re3a35e2 live-helper/helpers/chroot_hacks: Removing apt log instead of truncating it, this is an additional file over a bootstrapped chroot. 2010-07-17 23:16:14 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r2276b58 live-helper/helpers/chroot_hacks: Truncating apts term.log to. 2010-07-17 23:16:15 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r5a879f3 live-helper/helpers/binary_local-packageslists: Updating binary_local-packageslists to treat non-main packages correctly. 2010-07-17 23:16:16 < CIA-11> unixabg debian * rdcf0848 live-helper/templates/cgi/ (debian-official/form.html debian-unofficial/form.html): Allowing input for --mirror-binary on l-h.cgi. 2010-07-17 23:16:19 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rccfd76a live-helper/helpers/ (binary_disk source_disk): Also creating .disk meta information on usb images, otherwise debian-installer doesn't detect the installer media. 2010-07-17 23:16:23 < CIA-11> daniel pristine-tar * r529f99a live-helper/ (2 files): Adding pristine-tar version 2.0~a19. 2010-07-17 23:16:24 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rd411f23 live-helper/examples/cron/images.sh: Updating image autobuild script for squeeze alpha2. 2010-07-17 23:16:25 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rcda3e10 live-helper/ (26 files in 7 dirs): Updating syslinux splash screen for squeeze. 2010-07-17 23:16:27 < CIA-11> daniel upstream * r311a60b live-helper/ (354 files in 15 dirs): Adding upstream version 2.0~a19. 2010-07-17 23:16:29 < CIA-11> daniel debian * rbbaf175 live-helper/ (322 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a19-1. 2010-07-17 23:16:41 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rbbaf175 live-helper/ (322 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a19-1. 2010-07-17 23:16:41 < CIA-11> daniel debian * r6ca1539 live-helper/functions/defaults.sh: Updating defaults to also add try-usb parameter for cdrom-detect when building iso-hybrid images with included debian-installer. 2010-07-17 23:17:26 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * r1760990 live-helper/examples/cron/images.sh: Removing temporary hack to skip memtest86+ in image autobuild script. 2010-07-17 23:26:51 < SynrG> dba: ok. thanks for the effort 2010-07-17 23:27:48 < dba> SynrG: sorry for failing to fix it, but i really expected it to be not different than regular d-i 2010-07-17 23:28:01 < dba> which it apparently isn't, so it's not so straight forward :( 2010-07-17 23:28:42 < SynrG> mhm 2010-07-17 23:29:15 < SynrG> in the meantime i need to decide what to do with my live customizations ... 2010-07-17 23:29:21 < SynrG> i have two contrary goals now ... 2010-07-17 23:29:31 < SynrG> one, to do a (customized) demo ... 2010-07-17 23:29:42 < SynrG> the other, to install a plain debian system with no customization 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19:51:17 < coruja> hm, so what am i doing wrong? *wonder* 2010-07-18 19:55:42 < SynrG> i haven't used lvm or anything fancy 2010-07-18 19:56:00 * coruja either 2010-07-18 19:56:16 < coruja> here's my config file: http://debian-live.coruja.info/auto/config 2010-07-18 19:56:50 < coruja> and just added a packagelist containing xorg, nodm and lxde 2010-07-18 19:57:10 < SynrG> using the text installer 2010-07-18 19:57:31 < SynrG> but otherwise yeah, using a very similar config 2010-07-18 19:57:35 < coruja> no, the text installer, but with the same results 2010-07-18 19:57:49 < SynrG> however, the daily installer is daily ... which means it can vary from build to build ... so ... 2010-07-18 19:57:52 < SynrG> dunno 2010-07-18 19:58:12 < coruja> but i'll try again text mode, maybe some days passed since last time 2010-07-18 19:58:13 < SynrG> it has been a number of days since i did a full run-through of the installer 2010-07-18 19:58:24 < SynrG> probably a few weeks now, actually 2010-07-18 19:58:56 < coruja> oh, i meant i used the gui one (the line with 'same results') 2010-07-18 19:59:45 < coruja> SynrG, do you use vbox for testing too? 2010-07-18 20:01:28 < SynrG> coruja: on the hardware when i can. otherwise on qemu 2010-07-18 20:01:36 < SynrG> lately mostly just on the hardware itself. eeepc 2010-07-18 20:02:30 < coruja> SynrG, ok, i see, maybe i should test on qemu, as vbox could be the showstopper 2010-07-18 20:03:19 < coruja> although the cdrom installer went rather fine, at least a finished installation 2010-07-18 20:03:38 < coruja> hmm 2010-07-18 20:05:31 < SynrG> i keep a pocketfull of usb keys for install tests 2010-07-18 20:05:46 < SynrG> that way i can both boot and install to a key and not touch anything on the system 2010-07-18 20:06:01 < coruja> nice idea :) 2010-07-18 20:06:57 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@bas1-montreal42-1178047302.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-18 20:10:38 < SynrG> thing is, since my target platform is the eeepc, no emulated enviornment is going to be close enough to test things properly 2010-07-18 20:40:50 < coruja> ok, i tested text install both on vbox and qemu, no success, stops after installing the system and returns to the installation menu 2010-07-18 20:59:37 < dba> i'll do another one in a couple of minutes (when the image has built) 2010-07-18 21:52:53 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-18 21:54:55 -!- unixabg [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-18 21:55:23 -!- juliank (Julian Andres Klode) [~juliank@p5B25293F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-18 21:58:29 -!- juliank [~juliank@p5B25293F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-18 22:35:24 -!- jstein_ [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-251-61.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-18 22:36:28 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@bas1-montreal42-1178047302.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 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12:25:44 -!- mammadori (Marco Amadori) [~mammadori@firewall.vdavda.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-19 12:27:44 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-19 13:05:13 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-19 13:40:40 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-19 14:05:12 < Father0fNine> Where might I find the GPG keys to authenticate sid-snapshots package/Release files? 2010-07-19 14:07:50 < dba> in the archive under project; 2010-07-19 14:07:59 < dba> in the archive as dmo-archive-keyring; 2010-07-19 14:08:22 < dba> in /usr/share/live-helper/repositories 2010-07-19 14:44:15 -!- aubade (psilocyben) [~psilo@stallion.psilocy.be] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-19 14:44:54 < aubade> is this the appropriate place to ask questions? 2010-07-19 14:49:30 < SynrG> questions about? 2010-07-19 14:49:39 < aubade> casper boot process. 2010-07-19 14:50:21 < SynrG> live-helper hasn't supported casper in a very long time ... unless the recent work from the ubuntu end of things has readded it ... 2010-07-19 14:50:31 < aubade> bugger. 2010-07-19 14:50:41 < aubade> does that mean no? ;) 2010-07-19 14:50:46 < SynrG> all of my expertise is with live-initramfs (now live-boot, live-config, etc.) 2010-07-19 14:50:51 < SynrG> it means you can ask ... 2010-07-19 14:50:55 < SynrG> but we might not be able to help 2010-07-19 14:51:03 < aubade> i'm trying to remix a forensicslive dist. 2010-07-19 14:51:20 < aubade> ... having trouble running anything from the final O/S during boot-time. 2010-07-19 14:51:59 < aubade> i suppose the question is do you know when the final hand-off is (/root/ moves to /) and wether any startup scripts execute after that. 2010-07-19 14:52:04 < SynrG> is this forensicslive thing debian-live based? 2010-07-19 14:52:28 < aubade> hard to tell. i think it's ubuntu. 2010-07-19 14:52:45 < aubade> but it has debian in half of it, ubuntu in the other half, and casper everywhere. 2010-07-19 14:52:47 < SynrG> i understand there has been work recently to make debian-live work with ubuntu .. 2010-07-19 14:53:00 < SynrG> i don't know what the status of this work is. i gather they have had *some* success though 2010-07-19 14:53:25 < SynrG> so if you want to use that, i can help. otherwise, it's outside of my interests/expertise and generally not relevant to this channel 2010-07-19 14:53:40 < aubade> no trouble. worth a shot. 2010-07-19 14:54:04 < aubade> thank you. 2010-07-19 14:54:11 -!- aubade [~psilo@stallion.psilocy.be] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-19 15:09:22 < dba> SynrG: there are two things; one that lh can do ubuntu images (using casper) which is best-effort, means, i don't know when it's broken as i don't use it, 2010-07-19 15:09:33 < dba> but i'll apply patches (e.g. from cody). 2010-07-19 15:10:11 < dba> and the other, that lh can do ubuntu images with live-{boot,config}, either with those packages used from debian (or live.debian.net) which is 2010-07-19 15:10:55 < dba> best-effort too, or, by using live-{boot,config} from ubuntu repository, which is totally unsupported (as we've no influence to influence/update/$whatever the packages there). 2010-07-19 15:11:35 < SynrG> dba: thanks. i guess we should have doc that expresses this? 2010-07-19 15:12:45 < dba> i'll make a note of above to add it to the manual. 2010-07-19 15:13:01 < Father0fNine> Ok. I hate to be obtuse but I;m having trouble finding it... I've tried "Archive" under the "User" column on the website... there is no "Archive" under the project column. I've checked all the keys in /usr/share/live-helper/repositories and they don't match. Any other hints? 2010-07-19 15:13:32 < dba> live.debian.net/debian/other/ 2010-07-19 15:13:34 < dba> hrm 2010-07-19 15:13:39 < dba> i mean: live.debian.net/debian/project/ 2010-07-19 15:13:53 < dba> and the keys in /usr/share/live-helper/repositories *do* match. 2010-07-19 15:14:30 < hramrach_> so long as you have l-h installed which is not that hard requirement 2010-07-19 15:16:12 < Father0fNine> I'm trying apt-get update and I'm getting W: GPG error: http://live.debian.net sid-snapshots Release after importing all the keys in .../repositories 2010-07-19 15:20:12 < SynrG> Father0fNine: the version of live-helper you have installed is what? 2010-07-19 15:20:42 < SynrG> that's what contains live-helper/repositories 2010-07-19 15:21:33 < dba> then you did it wrong. they keys are correct. 2010-07-19 15:22:02 < dba> how did you try to import it? 2010-07-19 15:23:06 < dba> hramrach_: i'm about factoring out resolv.conf updates from live-boot to live-onfig; 2010-07-19 15:23:25 < dba> hramrach_: this might need some fixes afterwards for netboot, would you be able to test this in a couple of days? 2010-07-19 15:26:17 < Father0fNine> (still looking for version of live-helper. installed from sid about two, maybe three, weeks ago) 2010-07-19 15:26:32 < Father0fNine> dba: cat *.gpg | gpg -import 2010-07-19 15:27:33 < Father0fNine> Version: 2.0~a17+20100708.001409 2010-07-19 15:27:45 < SynrG> Father0fNine: use apt-key 2010-07-19 15:29:38 < dba> jftr: they rotates yearly, and the last rotiation was on 20100201. 2010-07-19 15:32:43 -!- intrigeri [~intrigeri@gaffer.ptitcanardnoir.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-19 15:33:52 < Father0fNine> Oh well... I must have something really foobar'd because after apt-key I still get that error... I'll just download / install manually instead of through apt 2010-07-19 15:33:56 -!- intrigeri (0xFD586E52) [~intrigeri@gaffer.ptitcanardnoir.org] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-19 15:39:16 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-19 15:58:41 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-19 16:05:26 < hramrach_> dba: resolv.conf never worked for me when I tried. I always boot using an IP address. 2010-07-19 16:07:05 < hramrach_> hmm, but resolver works in the booted system and dhclient is not running so I guess resolv.conf is creted by l-i 2010-07-19 16:07:39 < hramrach_> why can't it create a resolv.conf in the initramfs as well and include the libc nss modules? 2010-07-19 16:08:07 < dba> hramrach_: ok, so it should be safe to move it and not break stuff then, hopefully. 2010-07-19 16:08:16 < dba> hramrach_: why would you want to include nss 2010-07-19 16:08:17 < dba> ? 2010-07-19 16:08:23 < dba> that's a quite fat thing.. 2010-07-19 16:08:35 < hramrach_> because otherwise you can't resolve host names 2010-07-19 16:09:15 < dba> initramfs-tools should take care about that, if it doesn't it's a bug that they should fix, imho. 2010-07-19 16:10:23 < hramrach_> you could include 'host' or somesuch and run the hostnames through that but for transparent resolver you need nss afaik 2010-07-19 16:10:46 < hramrach_> and it's probably not included axactly because it's fat and not needed most of the time 2010-07-19 16:14:02 < hramrach_> I get "Name or service not known" when booting by name 2010-07-19 16:16:18 < dba> hmm 2010-07-19 16:42:26 < hramrach_> hmm, I tried copying a few nss modules into the initrd and it works so long as I have resolv.conf which is not created by l-i 2010-07-19 16:44:43 < hramrach_> http://paste.debian.net/80911/ 2010-07-19 16:44:50 < hramrach_> the initramfs hook 2010-07-19 16:46:07 < SynrG> hramrach_: btw, is it sufficient now to include nouveau in my live image builds or do i need a hook to activate for models that require it? 2010-07-19 17:05:04 < hramrach_> SynrG: it's automatic with latest Squeeze X 2010-07-19 17:05:39 < hramrach_> it should be pulled with the other X drivers as well, if it is not it is a bug I guess 2010-07-19 17:07:44 < hramrach_> dba: and the accopmpanying live script patch http://paste.debian.net/80912/ 2010-07-19 17:09:02 < hramrach_> technically you probably don't need all the files pulled by the nss hook 2010-07-19 17:09:54 < hramrach_> for example files aren't used if you don't pull nssswitch.conf and compat is probably used for passwd and other such stuff only 2010-07-19 17:10:53 < hramrach_> s/files/libnss_lifes.so.?/ 2010-07-19 17:11:12 < hramrach_> *_files 2010-07-19 17:12:38 < dba> hramrach_: we definitely needs a config file for live boot that controlls which files to be included with the hook, 2010-07-19 17:12:49 < dba> i'll do that once the resolv.conf is moved to live-config. 2010-07-19 17:12:50 < hramrach_> dba: if you want I can make a git patch (if I find the ssh keys) but I am not sure if the hook should be folded into the live hook or provided as a separate conffile so that people can delete it 2010-07-19 17:13:27 < hramrach_> note however that you still need this stuff in live-boot even after resolv.conf is moved to live-config 2010-07-19 17:13:31 < dba> hramrach_: /etc/live/boot.conf resp. /etc/live/boot.conf.d/ should control that. 2010-07-19 17:14:01 < dba> yes, i know.. i just said that i'm going not to do it as the next thing on my todo list, since that is factoring out the resolv.conf thing. 2010-07-19 17:15:34 < hramrach_> ok. Should I put the patch into the BTS so it does not get lost? 2010-07-19 17:16:39 -!- plhardy [~philippe@217.108.116.29] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-19 17:17:20 < dba> hramrach_: yes 2010-07-19 17:19:42 < SynrG> hramrach_: i deliberately go for a minimal set of X drivers 2010-07-19 17:20:17 < SynrG> $ grep xserver-xorg-video binary.packages 2010-07-19 17:20:17 < SynrG> xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-4 2010-07-19 17:20:17 < SynrG> xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:0.0.15+git20100329+7858345-4 2010-07-19 17:20:17 < SynrG> xserver-xorg-video-vesa 1:2.3.0-3 2010-07-19 17:20:30 < SynrG> keeps the image size down a bit 2010-07-19 17:21:05 < SynrG> that covers all models of eeepc i know about. 2010-07-19 17:21:22 < dba> SynrG++ 2010-07-19 17:21:26 < SynrG> dunno what to do about 1101HA/1201HA tho ... 2010-07-19 17:21:50 < SynrG> there's a workaround steve mcintyre just blogged about that works 2010-07-19 17:22:05 < SynrG> maybe i could package some sort of hook to run at boot 2010-07-19 17:25:36 < dba> mhmm 2010-07-19 17:26:14 < SynrG> in fact, it would be nice if less crap were installed that a user doesn't need 2010-07-19 17:26:26 < SynrG> once the system is booted, some stuff could be removed 2010-07-19 17:26:40 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host56-30-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-19 17:26:57 < SynrG> the unnecessary X driver, for example (nouveau not needed for intel users and vice versa) 2010-07-19 17:27:12 < SynrG> i consider vesa nice to have to fall back on, should something go wrong 2010-07-19 17:27:32 < dba> sounds like you want a d-i late_command hook that 2010-07-19 17:27:55 < dba> checks your hardware and removes unwanted packages. 2010-07-19 17:27:56 < SynrG> so that goes in the preseed? 2010-07-19 17:28:03 < dba> yes 2010-07-19 17:28:11 < BTS> Opened #589659 in live-boot by Michal Suchanek «support dns names in netboot». http://bugs.debian.org/589659 2010-07-19 17:28:17 < SynrG> and the hook itself lives where? 2010-07-19 17:28:25 < dba> not getting it 2010-07-19 17:28:32 < dba> ah, getting it 2010-07-19 17:28:36 < SynrG> oh, all of the code can go into the preseed file? 2010-07-19 17:28:46 < SynrG> i'd rather the hook (if non-trivial) lives in a separate file 2010-07-19 17:28:50 < dba> well, you can either have the whole spaghetti code in that preseed command 2010-07-19 17:29:08 < dba> (which is dead ugly, and at some point there's a limit i think) 2010-07-19 17:29:13 < SynrG> mhm 2010-07-19 17:29:29 < dba> or, and that is how i would do it, but the stuff in a regular package, 2010-07-19 17:29:42 < dba> have that installed in the system, and call it from late_command. 2010-07-19 17:29:50 < SynrG> ah, right 2010-07-19 17:30:32 < SynrG> that has the advantage of leaving evidence of what was done on the user's system 2010-07-19 17:30:59 < dba> d-ipreseed/late_command string chroot /target /usr/bin/foo-bar-baz 2010-07-19 17:31:06 < dba> hrm 2010-07-19 17:31:12 < dba> d-i preseed/late_command string chroot /target /usr/bin/foo-bar-baz 2010-07-19 17:31:25 * SynrG nods 2010-07-19 17:31:28 < hramrach_> hmm so I should make new images that finally boot using DNS I guess 2010-07-19 17:32:23 < dba> hramrach_: thanks, ETA is somewhere weekend, early next week 2010-07-19 17:36:11 < hramrach_> hmm, with the nss modules the iscsid could work as well I guess. It relies on /etc/passwd which goes through nss 2010-07-19 17:41:01 < dba> hramrach_: when you report bugs, do it against the version in sid. 2010-07-19 17:41:11 < dba> hramrach_: and patches against git or the last sid upload. 2010-07-19 17:42:15 < hramrach_> I did the patch against the version I had installed and which I tested 2010-07-19 17:42:45 < hramrach_> If the package changes too much I can rebase it. Just doing a test build 2010-07-19 17:44:35 < dba> hramrach_: thanks. 2010-07-19 18:23:25 -!- nickmarinho (ws02.prodam-telecom.com.br) [c8e5c96a@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-19 18:23:39 < nickmarinho> alguém fala portugues brasil aqui ? 2010-07-19 18:24:16 < dba> this is an english channel. 2010-07-19 18:24:35 < nickmarinho> but maybe somebody portuguese is here 2010-07-19 18:25:21 < dba> even if so, we would speak english. it's very unpolite for others that don't speak portuguese. 2010-07-19 18:25:33 < nickmarinho> ok 2010-07-19 18:25:37 < nickmarinho> I understood 2010-07-19 18:25:38 < dba> also, you might get better help in english anyway. 2010-07-19 18:26:01 < dba> (as more people speak english) 2010-07-19 18:26:03 < nickmarinho> i know that but i fear that i can't be clear to ask for help 2010-07-19 18:26:10 < nickmarinho> i never pass this before 2010-07-19 18:26:47 < nickmarinho> follow 2010-07-19 18:27:01 < SynrG> it's ok. do the best you can 2010-07-19 18:27:06 < nickmarinho> ;-) 2010-07-19 18:27:20 < nickmarinho> i have my internet conection in socks proxy 2010-07-19 18:27:33 < dba> so you're the guy from the mailinglist. 2010-07-19 18:27:39 < nickmarinho> and i'm trying to make a debian live usb pendrive 2010-07-19 18:27:47 < nickmarinho> lh config run normally 2010-07-19 18:27:51 < nickmarinho> but lh build fails 2010-07-19 18:28:14 < dba> i suggest you resend the mail you send to the mailinglist in english 2010-07-19 18:28:30 < dba> and add the required information as outlined in this and the following page: 2010-07-19 18:28:31 < SynrG> mhm. i will read when i get home, too. 2010-07-19 18:28:34 < SynrG> leaving now for the bus 2010-07-19 18:28:36 < SynrG> later 2010-07-19 18:29:00 < dba> nickmarinho: http://live.debian.net/manual/en/html/bugs.html 2010-07-19 18:29:07 < nickmarinho> hmmm 2010-07-19 18:29:17 < nickmarinho> let me see 2010-07-19 18:29:32 < nickmarinho> i'll send a english version of my mail to the list too 2010-07-19 18:29:46 < nickmarinho> i can think that this bug is new, or not 2010-07-19 18:30:39 < Kasreyn> any reason live-config.timezone=Europe/Stockholm as kernel option should fail ? 2010-07-19 18:30:44 < nickmarinho> there's nothing to help on this page 2010-07-19 18:30:54 < nickmarinho> no... 2010-07-19 18:31:35 < nickmarinho> ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libtsocks.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored 2010-07-19 18:31:47 < nickmarinho> Err http://ftp.de.debian.org lenny Release.gpg 2010-07-19 18:31:54 < nickmarinho> Could not connect to ftp.de.debian.org:80 (141.76.2.4). - connect (110 Connection timed out) 2010-07-19 18:32:24 < nickmarinho> i think that when the lh build is chrooting, they loose the path to the tsocks or something like 2010-07-19 18:32:38 < nickmarinho> but i don't know how could i maybe solve this 2010-07-19 18:32:53 < hramrach_> tsocks aren't installed in the chroot 2010-07-19 18:33:27 < hramrach_> I guess you can add them as one of the bootstrap packages 2010-07-19 18:34:15 < nickmarinho> i know but after a possibility to do this the lh build try sometimes to install packages 2010-07-19 18:34:37 < nickmarinho> without tsocks i don't conect to internet 2010-07-19 18:34:57 < nickmarinho> have a way to copy the deb ......... 2010-07-19 18:35:00 < nickmarinho> wow 2010-07-19 18:35:09 < nickmarinho> i think i can do this 2010-07-19 18:40:49 < hramrach_> you can get tsocks in the bootstrap by 2010-07-19 18:40:53 < hramrach_> echo 'LH_BOOTSTRAP_INCLUDE="tsocks"' >> config/bootstra 2010-07-19 18:41:23 < hramrach_> but you may need the tsocks config inside the bootstrap environment as well 2010-07-19 18:41:41 < hramrach_> echo 'LH_BOOTSTRAP_INCLUDE="tsocks"' >> config/bootstrap 2010-07-19 18:42:00 < hramrach_> ^ missed p 2010-07-19 18:42:10 < nickmarinho> ok 2010-07-19 18:42:26 < nickmarinho> i have to do this after lh build 2010-07-19 18:42:40 < hramrach_> aftel hl config and before lh build 2010-07-19 18:42:49 < hramrach_> * after 2010-07-19 18:43:33 < nickmarinho> lets try 2010-07-19 18:43:35 < nickmarinho> ^^ 2010-07-19 18:44:41 < nickmarinho> just one thing 2010-07-19 18:44:53 < hramrach_> hmm, and you have to clean the bootstrap stage so that bootstrap is done again (or start wit hfresh directory) 2010-07-19 18:45:27 < nickmarinho> what you mean here: "need the tsocks config inside the bootstrap environment" how do i do this ? 2010-07-19 18:46:21 < hramrach_> and if the build still fails you can try to copy the tsocks config into cache/stages_bootstrap/etc and do "lh clean ; lh build" which will use the cached bootstrap 2010-07-19 18:47:05 < hramrach_> with anything you copied there 2010-07-19 18:48:01 < hramrach_> which is a hack but I did not find options which support this cleanly. You can write a build script which does the additional steps not supoprted by live-helper yet ;-) 2010-07-19 18:49:38 < nickmarinho> yep 2010-07-19 18:49:42 < nickmarinho> i can do this 2010-07-19 18:49:48 < nickmarinho> i'm testing and trying 2010-07-19 18:50:23 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-19 19:20:05 < nickmarinho> . 2010-07-19 19:20:19 < nickmarinho> this option echo 'LH_BOOTSTRAP_INCLUDE="tsocks"' >> config/bootstrap 2010-07-19 19:20:35 < nickmarinho> don't enable tsock on chroot 2010-07-19 19:21:16 < nickmarinho> the lh build umount file system after check the file /etc/apt/sources.list 2010-07-19 19:21:34 < nickmarinho> because it try one apt-get update and network is down 2010-07-19 19:21:46 < dba> Kasreyn: do you have a problem with setting the timezone? if so, you should describe the problem, not asking for if there's one. 2010-07-19 19:22:25 < Father0fNine> Why is apt-utils installed, purged, installed, purged, etc? 2010-07-19 19:22:44 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-19 19:23:25 < nickmarinho> maybe one mail with all situation will be better to you see all 2010-07-19 19:23:31 < nickmarinho> i'll send it now 2010-07-19 19:26:31 < dba> Father0fNine: are you using -p minimal? 2010-07-19 19:27:56 < Father0fNine> dba: no lxde 2010-07-19 19:28:37 < Father0fNine> I ask, mostly, because it bombs out (I think after mksquashfs) when apt can't find any canidates apt-utils to install 2010-07-19 19:28:46 < Father0fNine> and I'm trying to debug why 2010-07-19 19:34:14 < dba> make sure you're not including 'minimal' in LH_PACKAGES_LISTS 2010-07-19 19:35:19 < Father0fNine> check: LH_PACKAGES_LISTS='lxde' 2010-07-19 19:35:29 -!- otavio_ (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-19 19:36:17 < nickmarinho> i mailed again the list with english version 2010-07-19 19:37:02 -!- otavio [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-19 19:37:08 < Kasreyn> dba: problem is it selects ETC as timezone when i specif 2010-07-19 19:37:17 < Kasreyn> cly say it should be Europe/Stockholm 2010-07-19 19:37:40 < Father0fNine> It's bombing out in "lh chroot_sources install" of "binary_rootfs" right after making squashfs ... 2010-07-19 19:39:11 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-19 19:39:12 < Kasreyn> i have live-config.timezone=Europe/Stockholm as boot option, after live-config persistent and a bunch of other live-config parameters 2010-07-19 19:39:40 < Kasreyn> i was wondering if perhaps i have too many parameters, if there is a sizelimit to boot options 2010-07-19 19:39:52 < Kasreyn> or of the ordering is important 2010-07-19 19:40:34 < dba> there is a sizelimit, but it's above 2048 chars, so that's not it. 2010-07-19 19:40:37 < Kasreyn> the other options work as they should 2010-07-19 19:40:41 < dba> the order doesn't matter. 2010-07-19 19:41:13 < dba> which version of live-config are you using? 2010-07-19 19:41:17 < Kasreyn> well what could it be then. spelling error? i checked several times, it should be Europe/Stockholm 2010-07-19 19:41:33 < Kasreyn> i updated from squeeze today 2010-07-19 19:41:40 < Kasreyn> removed my cache dir and rebuilt 2010-07-19 19:43:00 < Kasreyn> i also tried live-config.timezone='Europe/Stockholm', gives you ERROR. and is not valid syntax 2010-07-19 19:43:25 < Father0fNine> There's an argument for using long parameters in scripts... who knew that "-f" = "--bootstrap-flavor" 2010-07-19 19:45:32 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rdad71af live-config/scripts/config/005-tzdata: Simplyfing tzdata script. 2010-07-19 20:02:37 < nickmarinho> i think i have to try just on places that have internet conection without a socks proxy 2010-07-19 20:02:37 < nickmarinho> thank for all 2010-07-19 20:02:37 -!- nickmarinho [c8e5c96a@ircip1.mibbit.com] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-19 20:05:03 < dba> Kasreyn: built a test image.. i'll check now.. 2010-07-19 20:05:40 < Kasreyn> dba: which repository/source are you using? live.debian.net? 2010-07-19 20:05:59 < Kasreyn> i use squeeze on live.debian.net 2010-07-19 20:06:00 < dba> live.debian.net, but this is regarding timezone currently on pair with sid 2010-07-19 20:06:08 < dba> and squeeze, yes. 2010-07-19 20:06:40 < Kasreyn> ok so it's the same script in sid and squeeze? 2010-07-19 20:06:49 < dba> no 2010-07-19 20:07:42 < dba> on live.debian.net however, there's the same version for all distributions. 2010-07-19 20:08:01 < Kasreyn> huh ok :) 2010-07-19 20:08:22 < Kasreyn> it's odd because i think it worked a few days ago 2010-07-19 20:08:27 < dba> that's the point of a snapshot repository in order to test things. 2010-07-19 20:08:32 < Kasreyn> or i would not have added it as permanent option 2010-07-19 20:11:33 < dba> ok, using Europe/Zurich works as it should, 2010-07-19 20:11:38 < dba> now let's check if stockholm does. 2010-07-19 20:12:46 < dba> works too 2010-07-19 20:13:47 < dba> yes, works flawlessly. 2010-07-19 20:14:03 < dba> and note that above commit is not in live.debian.net yet, 2010-07-19 20:14:18 < dba> which means, there's nothing changed since several weeks in 005-tzdata 2010-07-19 20:14:29 < dba> and it works as it is supposed. 2010-07-19 20:14:40 < dba> so there must be some local issue that you're having. 2010-07-19 20:14:48 < dba> what is your complete cmdline? 2010-07-19 20:23:47 < Kasreyn> a moment i'll go boot it up 2010-07-19 20:26:29 < Kasreyn> /live/vmlinuz initrd=/live/initrd.img boot=live live-config persistent live-config.timezone=Europe/Stockholm live-config.locales=sv_SE.UTF-8 live-config.keyboard-layouts=se live-config.username=myuser 2010-07-19 20:28:16 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-19 20:28:29 < Kasreyn> and when i enter gnome it's set to Etc/UTC 2010-07-19 20:29:47 -!- otavio_ [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-19 20:32:57 < Kasreyn> time to hit the hay though. i'll run some more tests tomorrow 2010-07-19 20:33:48 < dba> i'll try with an gnome image soon. 2010-07-19 20:34:11 -!- otavio [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-19 20:34:17 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-19 20:45:42 -!- unixabg [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-19 20:56:19 -!- Ariannah [~knitsock@blk-30-136-205.eastlink.ca] has quit [Quit: nitm] 2010-07-19 21:33:12 -!- Ariannah (Ariannah) [~knitsock@blk-30-136-205.eastlink.ca] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-19 21:54:41 < CIA-11> daniel debian-next * rd037c06 live-config/debian/live-initramfs.links: Adding manpage symlinks in transitional package. 2010-07-19 22:05:39 < dba> Kasreyn: works with gnome flawlessly too. 2010-07-19 22:20:58 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host56-30-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-19 22:23:57 -!- aitiba (aitiba) [~aitiba@169.169.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-19 23:10:38 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-19 23:12:20 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live --- Day changed Tue Jul 20 2010 2010-07-20 00:51:05 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-20 01:02:32 -!- CIA-11 [cia@208.69.182.149] has quit [Server closed connection] 2010-07-20 01:02:57 -!- CIA-3 (CIA Bot (http://cia.vc)) [cia@208.69.182.149] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-20 01:05:31 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.147.84] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-20 01:06:26 -!- aitiba [~aitiba@169.169.220.87.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-20 02:22:32 -!- rhaeder1 (purple) [~quix0r@188.109.254.6] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-20 02:27:33 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.248.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-20 03:42:32 -!- omry [~omry@bzq-109-67-0-161.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Server closed connection] 2010-07-20 03:43:00 -!- omry (Omry Yadan) [~omry@109.67.0.161] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-20 05:14:10 -!- otavio_ (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-20 05:14:43 -!- otavio [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-20 06:36:31 -!- plhardy (purple) [~philippe@217.108.116.29] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-20 06:38:20 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-20 06:38:39 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-20 07:04:06 < Kasreyn> dba: then it must be something in my configs that makes it not work 2010-07-20 07:04:49 < Kasreyn> i'll make a new dist and try it there 2010-07-20 07:19:22 < Kasreyn> i have added the packages ntpdate and ntp, do those interfere with live-config ? 2010-07-20 07:40:33 -!- hallyn [~xa@cpe-70-120-198-24.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-20 08:18:57 < Kasreyn> weird. what am i doing wrong. i still can't get timezone to work. i built a new image with just base packages like this: lh config -d squeeze -r live.debian.net -b usb-hdd --bootappend-live live-config.timezone=Europe/Stockholm 2010-07-20 08:20:33 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-20 08:21:16 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-20 08:36:36 < Kasreyn> date -u shows the correct time though 2010-07-20 08:39:59 < Kasreyn> i checked BIOS date/time and it was correctly set :P 2010-07-20 08:40:31 < Kasreyn> installing ntp fixes the problem and sets universal time back 2hours 2010-07-20 08:45:39 < SynrG> morning 2010-07-20 08:47:22 < Kasreyn> hey SynrG 2010-07-20 10:07:05 < hramrach_> hey 2010-07-20 11:10:58 < Kasreyn> well.. the time is initially incorrect but ntpd sets it right 2010-07-20 11:15:29 < Kasreyn> zone is still Etc/UTC though :P 2010-07-20 12:02:42 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] --- Log closed Tue Jul 20 12:04:13 2010 --- Log opened Tue Jul 20 12:04:38 2010 2010-07-20 12:04:38 -!- dba [~daniel@static.88-198-196-34.clients.your-server.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-20 12:04:38 -!- Irssi: #debian-live: Total of 39 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 39 normal] 2010-07-20 12:05:56 -!- Irssi: Join to #debian-live was synced in 79 secs 2010-07-20 12:10:46 -!- chattr [~mike@244.87.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-20 12:14:44 -!- chattr (Fudd's First Law of Opposition) [~mike@244.87.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #debian-live --- Log closed Tue Jul 20 12:22:28 2010 --- Log opened Wed Jul 21 06:18:43 2010 2010-07-21 06:18:43 -!- dba [~daniel@static.88-198-196-34.clients.your-server.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-21 06:18:43 -!- Irssi: #debian-live: Total of 34 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 34 normal] 2010-07-21 06:20:04 -!- Irssi: Join to #debian-live was synced in 81 secs 2010-07-21 07:22:44 -!- plhardy (purple) [~philippe@92.103.174.253] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-21 07:38:06 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-21 07:57:27 < lindi-> hmm, is the build identifier somewhere in usb-hdd image? 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2010-07-21 16:38:38 < dba> no 2010-07-21 16:39:02 < SynrG> hummm. at network config it keeps telling me it can't find the pppoe concentrator and dumps me back to the menu 2010-07-21 16:39:08 < SynrG> (during install) 2010-07-21 16:39:21 < SynrG> after that, i can configure the network and the install proceeds normally 2010-07-21 16:40:12 < dba> but this is a regular d-i thing, right? so you might have your changes about it with #d-boot. 2010-07-21 16:41:50 < SynrG> yeah. i didn't give it much thought because i know d-i's a work in progress, but if alpha2 still tests with the bug i'll report it 2010-07-21 16:48:35 < coruja> congratulations :) 2010-07-21 16:51:02 < coruja> maybe by taking a close look to the alpha2 images, i'll be able to find out where my mistake is/was 2010-07-21 17:07:21 < dba> mhmm 2010-07-21 18:22:39 -!- chattr [~mike@244.87.189.72.cfl.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: gone] 2010-07-21 19:10:32 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host56-30-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-21 19:14:27 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-21 19:39:39 -!- d0rt [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-21 21:54:46 -!- juliank [~juliank@p5B2528F7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-21 21:55:36 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host56-30-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] --- Day changed Thu Jul 22 2010 2010-07-22 05:10:24 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@188.109.246.175] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 05:42:34 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.159.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-22 05:49:48 -!- mictlan_ (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.159.125] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 06:43:08 -!- Stummi (Michael Stummvoll) [~Michael@dslb-088-074-231-220.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 06:43:23 < Stummi> hello 2010-07-22 06:44:59 < Stummi> We want to use more than one cow-filesystems which shall be used in debian-live. Is that possible? 2010-07-22 06:46:08 < Stummi> for exampe, /live/cow from live-sn.cpio.gz and /live/cow2 from foobar.cpio.gz, both shall overlaying the root-filesystem. Local changes should made in /live/cow 2010-07-22 08:05:17 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 08:51:11 < mammadori> dba: squeeze will use live-initramfs or live-boot? if is the latter, does some live-boot fixes will be "backported" to live-intiramfs? 2010-07-22 09:00:30 < mammadori> dba: and just to know, do you use "git-buildpackage" with some syntax to build e.g. live-config? 2010-07-22 09:09:21 -!- plhardy (purple) [~philippe@92.103.174.253] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 09:14:06 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 09:19:12 -!- franklin [~fpiat@klabs.be] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-22 09:25:04 < SynrG> i'm hoping live-boot now that it is through NEW 2010-07-22 10:03:19 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.159.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-22 10:05:45 -!- shoragan (shoragan) [~shoragan@sicherheitsschwankung.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 10:06:45 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-22 10:11:42 -!- shoragan [~shoragan@sicherheitsschwankung.de] has quit [Quit: shoragan] 2010-07-22 10:12:54 -!- shoragan (shoragan) [~shoragan@sicherheitsschwankung.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 10:41:52 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 11:19:17 < hramrach_> hmm, I tried to build the images with dns support in initramfs and use server DNS name instead of IP address. It's way less reliable that way for some reason or there was some other recent changes that causes the image to lock up on boot. 2010-07-22 11:27:22 < lindi-> hramrach_: boot with break=top and add set -x to /conf/param.conf to get a trace? 2010-07-22 11:37:12 -!- franklin (Franklin PIAT) [~fpiat@klabs.be] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 11:37:36 < hramrach_> hmm, now it does not lock up except on reboot 2010-07-22 14:04:02 -!- Xime (oOo) [~flo@bankize.fr] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 14:55:50 -!- Stummi [~Michael@dslb-088-074-231-220.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-22 15:07:52 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-22 15:11:28 -!- otavio [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2010-07-22 15:11:58 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 15:29:51 < dba> mammadori: squeeze will ship with live-boot and live-config. 2010-07-22 15:30:46 < dba> so i don't have any intention to backport stuff. why do you? 2010-07-22 15:39:03 < mammadori> no, I love stepping forward 2010-07-22 15:39:35 < mammadori> so my -r live.debian.net will be hpefully removed in a few weeks :-9 2010-07-22 15:40:00 < SynrG> yes. assuming live-boot and live-config are Bug Free™ there should be no problem :) 2010-07-22 15:40:04 < SynrG> just the usual 10 days 2010-07-22 15:40:10 < SynrG> since they're in sid now 2010-07-22 15:40:44 < SynrG> live-boot ... 2010-07-22 15:40:46 < SynrG> Too young, only 4 of 10 days old 2010-07-22 15:40:53 < SynrG> 1 week left 2010-07-22 15:46:54 < dba> i'll wait with other uploads, don't worry :) 2010-07-22 15:47:15 < dba> (and from then on, we can always upload with urgency high if needed) 2010-07-22 15:49:02 < SynrG> strangely, live-config is 5 of 10 days 2010-07-22 15:49:05 < SynrG> guess it went in first 2010-07-22 15:49:19 < SynrG> hours apart, but bridging across two days? 2010-07-22 15:49:58 < dba> could be, yes 2010-07-22 15:50:15 < dba> it's not so much of a problem, 2010-07-22 15:50:26 < dba> live-boot depends on live-config (because live-initramfs transitional package), 2010-07-22 15:50:35 < dba> so live-boot will wait for live-config anyway. 2010-07-22 15:55:33 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-22 16:07:48 -!- plhardy [~philippe@92.103.174.253] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-22 16:12:38 < CIA-3> daniel * r3e09d61 wiki-content/ (index.mdwn project/news.mdwn project/releases.mdwn): Updating squeeze alpha release links. 2010-07-22 16:53:00 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.159.125] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 16:55:19 < dba> sent announcement for alpha2 to d-l and d-d-a. 2010-07-22 17:28:46 < dba> SynrG: another idea how to speed up the boot process.. we could have a hook so that avter every apt-get upgrade or something like that, 2010-07-22 17:29:10 < dba> the update-live-config script is run that disables scripts for packages that are not installed on the current system. 2010-07-22 17:31:21 < dba> (or, that script could be called manually). that way we could save quite some time during the boot. 2010-07-22 17:34:45 < SynrG> sure. sounds good, and not terribly hard 2010-07-22 17:56:01 < dba> it's very easy, but, it requires that you run that script (semi- or totally automated) when you change the package configuration. 2010-07-22 17:57:16 < dba> as a 'compromise' we could also do the package selection specific script selection only when being triggered by live-helper 2010-07-22 17:57:37 < dba> that way, if you install live-config on a regular system, it is a bit slower, but would process all scripts. 2010-07-22 17:58:03 < dba> hm, i'll give it some more thoughts, and we can discuss it at debcamp. 2010-07-22 17:58:37 < SynrG> couldn't you consider each time you call lh config to be "after a configuration change"? 2010-07-22 18:00:29 < dba> umm, the update-live-config script (that disables unwanted scripts) is a thing that you run within the chroot 2010-07-22 18:00:33 < SynrG> btw, i don't think trimming down to fit 700M is worth it 2010-07-22 18:00:36 < dba> just before you create the filesystem image. 2010-07-22 18:00:53 < SynrG> dba: yes, i meant to flag it by a semaphore or something 2010-07-22 18:00:56 < dba> so, consider it to be something equivalent to a local hook. 2010-07-22 18:01:37 < dba> well, whenever you change the package selection after a successful build, you have to re-run the chroot stage in it's entirety anyway. 2010-07-22 18:02:03 < SynrG> right 2010-07-22 18:02:05 < dba> about 700mb; that's also my opinion. 2010-07-22 18:02:17 < SynrG> but below 1.1G *may* be worth it 2010-07-22 18:02:21 < SynrG> to fit 1G usb keys 2010-07-22 18:02:25 < dba> indeed 2010-07-22 18:02:43 < SynrG> my primary test key is still a 1G 2010-07-22 18:02:53 < dba> unrelated to that: i'll prepare a list of things that i'd like to discuss with you regarding -live until your arrival. 2010-07-22 18:03:11 < SynrG> though 4G is pretty much a common / cheap size now ... 2010-07-22 18:03:17 < SynrG> and it more closely relates to DVD size 2010-07-22 18:03:22 < dba> so that we can do some sort of 'informal' meeting with anyone interested to do some discussion and decissions on things to go forward for squeeze, and beyond. 2010-07-22 18:03:32 < SynrG> so it may be wiser to just say our images never exceed 4G and be done with it 2010-07-22 18:03:41 < dba> 4gb is huge :)) 2010-07-22 18:03:55 < SynrG> i know. i can't imagine ever exceeding it :) 2010-07-22 18:04:02 < dba> i guess we'll never exceed that with 'normal' images (as in not multi-arch) 2010-07-22 18:04:08 * SynrG nods 2010-07-22 18:04:32 < SynrG> hm. good point about mulit-arch 2010-07-22 18:04:36 < SynrG> multi 2010-07-22 18:05:13 < SynrG> also consider that any optimization done today to meet some current barrier will be undone by inevitable inflation over time 2010-07-22 18:06:30 < SynrG> http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-DataTraveler-USB-Flash-Drive/dp/B000M2GYF6 2010-07-22 18:06:56 < SynrG> ^^^ under $10. do we really care about saving people from spending $10 ? 2010-07-22 18:07:07 < dba> some days ago, there was the 100GB blue ray disk in the news.. so i think, 2010-07-22 18:07:08 < SynrG> i think our time is worth more than this 2010-07-22 18:07:29 < dba> for optical media, the future is sort of save. we won't exceed the limits in the near time. :) 2010-07-22 18:07:50 < SynrG> re meeting, looking forward to this :) 2010-07-22 18:45:55 -!- cuba33ci [~cuba33ci@111-240-206-155.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-22 18:47:09 -!- cuba33ci (cuba33ci) [~cuba33ci@111-240-205-153.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 18:49:19 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host56-30-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 19:04:31 -!- mammadori_ (Marco Amadori) [~marco@ip-87-238-20-119.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 19:37:48 -!- mantra (Contra) [~mantra@92.240.42.81] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 19:37:56 < mantra> hi guys 2010-07-22 19:38:02 < mantra> anyone using openBTS 2010-07-22 19:38:11 < mantra> having some problems booting it up 2010-07-22 20:17:02 < SynrG> uh? relevance to debian-live? 2010-07-22 20:17:24 < mantra> well yeah 2010-07-22 20:17:28 < mantra> based on debian 2010-07-22 20:17:38 < SynrG> wrong channel. sorry 2010-07-22 20:17:49 < SynrG> don't they have their own support channel? 2010-07-22 20:17:49 < mantra> well...it pointed me to debian site 2010-07-22 20:17:55 < mantra> nope 2010-07-22 20:18:13 < SynrG> debian does not provide user support for downstream distributions of debian 2010-07-22 20:18:19 < SynrG> and this isn't a user support channel in any case 2010-07-22 20:18:33 < mantra> i know i was wondering if someone use it 2010-07-22 20:18:42 < mantra> cuz it is not quite easy to find stuff about openBTS 2010-07-22 20:20:27 < SynrG> on #debian-* channels all you will find is users of debian. hence the channel prefix 'debian' :) 2010-07-22 20:24:20 < mantra> lol kk :D 2010-07-22 21:12:27 -!- mammadori_ [~marco@ip-87-238-20-119.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-22 21:14:43 -!- mammadori_ (Marco Amadori) [~marco@ip-87-238-20-119.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 21:23:24 -!- mammadori_ [~marco@ip-87-238-20-119.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-22 21:24:47 -!- Cedric64 (Cedric64) [~Cedric64@82VAAAB97.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-22 21:33:16 -!- mantra [~mantra@92.240.42.81] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2010-07-22 21:45:17 -!- Cedric64 [~Cedric64@82VAAAB97.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-22 22:53:42 -!- otavio [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-22 23:39:52 < dba> yay.. power is restored.. finally. 2010-07-22 23:53:22 < dba> stamford had 27h of power outage, ouch. 2010-07-22 23:56:53 -!- DaveLive (128.189.250.114) [80bdfa72@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #debian-live --- Day changed Fri Jul 23 2010 2010-07-23 00:01:03 < DaveLive> I just tried installing using a USBHDD prepared by LinuxLive USB Creator 2.5. When I restarted, I got the bootup screen but also received an error that the CD could not be found. I am now d/l the *.img I presume this is for USBHDD. Is there something else I should know about attempting a live install from a USB stick? Thanks! 2010-07-23 00:04:24 < DaveLive> Help 2010-07-23 00:07:09 < DaveLive> HELP 2010-07-23 00:09:03 < DaveLive> OK, I'm going to try the *.img file and unetbootin-windows-471. If that fails I'm going to give Debian dasBoot! 2010-07-23 00:19:23 < DaveLive> Hello? 2010-07-23 00:19:59 -!- DaveLive [80bdfa72@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 2010-07-23 00:28:34 -!- Donovan (128.189.250.114) [80bdfa72@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 00:28:45 -!- Donovan [80bdfa72@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [] 2010-07-23 02:24:58 -!- flypiper (M Berry) [~mb_@75-149-68-164-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 04:48:05 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@184-197-134-237.pools.spcsdns.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 05:13:07 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@184-197-134-237.pools.spcsdns.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2010-07-23 05:27:14 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.159.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-23 07:19:30 < Kasreyn> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus 2010-07-23 07:58:33 -!- hfr (Manuel Hofer) [~manuel@81.19.151.222] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 07:58:43 < hfr> hi 2010-07-23 07:59:34 < hfr> i'm currently trying to create a squeeze netboot image, and for some reason it doesn't create the "user" account... is there something different with squeeze ? 2010-07-23 08:00:03 < hfr> i did create it with: 2010-07-23 08:00:04 < hfr> lh config --binary-images net --net-root-path "/nfsroot/debian-live" --net-root-server "172.16.1.1" 2010-07-23 08:00:15 < hfr> lh config -d squeeze 2010-07-23 08:00:19 < hfr> lh config --volatile false 2010-07-23 08:00:29 < hfr> echo "fluxbox iceweasel openoffice.org2" > config/chroot_local-packageslists/my.list 2010-07-23 08:00:48 < hfr> and the gnome package list from /usr/share/... 2010-07-23 08:13:35 < hfr> omg, the answer's already in the channel-topic... sorry 2010-07-23 08:13:36 < hfr> 2010-07-23 08:37:04 < Kasreyn> hfr: live-config.username=myuser in LH_BOOTAPPEND_LIVE works for me 2010-07-23 08:37:06 < SynrG> yes. and when live-boot and live-config migrate to squeeze, that will no longer be needed 2010-07-23 08:37:24 < SynrG> Kasreyn: that's not the question tho 2010-07-23 08:37:48 < hfr> thanks! 2010-07-23 08:38:25 < SynrG> and since both live-boot and live-config are now in sid, building against sid should work too (at least, to address this particular issue ... builds against sid still could break in other ways, as always) 2010-07-23 08:46:01 < hfr> is there any solution to speed up the lh build process? do i really need to "lh clean" everytime i build? 2010-07-23 08:47:35 < SynrG> depends on what you change 2010-07-23 08:48:03 < SynrG> for any change to the chroot, yes 2010-07-23 08:49:24 < SynrG> see lh_clean man page. you can clean individual stages. you could just clean the binary stage with lh clean --binary ... 2010-07-23 08:49:53 < SynrG> but i find not a lot of changes are in that stage anyway, so i end up doing a complete lh clean 2010-07-23 08:50:57 < SynrG> most network interactions are cached, but not all, so using a caching deb proxy may help speed up rebuilds 2010-07-23 08:51:52 < hfr> yes, i already thought of a caching deb proxy.. would speed up at least a little bit 2010-07-23 08:52:38 < SynrG> and then the rest is just reducing the necessity of frequent builds by testing things better in the small 2010-07-23 08:57:37 < SynrG> example: you want to add a new package with a custom configuration. you want to ensure it works in the live image and are not concerned with measuring the increase in size of image (yet) so you simply boot your old image, apply the same custom configuration as per your changes to your lh configuration, and install the new package. then move on to the next iteration of development without an image rebuild. 2010-07-23 08:58:57 < SynrG> of course, not all config changes submit to this model, but often enough do so that you can cut down build frequency 2010-07-23 09:04:32 < SynrG> i suppose "use better hardware" goes without saying :) before i had an intel core-duo, the squashfs build was painfully slow. that part zips along now, making use of both cores 2010-07-23 09:06:01 -!- shoragan [~shoragan@sicherheitsschwankung.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-23 09:06:01 < Kasreyn> go buy icecream while it compiles 2010-07-23 09:06:01 < Kasreyn> now you have icecream 2010-07-23 09:06:02 -!- shoragan_ [~shoragan@sicherheitsschwankung.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 09:06:22 -!- shoragan_ is shoragan 2010-07-23 09:06:42 < SynrG> that, too :) 2010-07-23 09:07:08 < SynrG> hfr: build partial images 2010-07-23 09:07:14 < Jordan_U_> Kasreyn: It's too late to buy ice cream, and now you've made me want some. You bastard. 2010-07-23 09:07:30 < SynrG> it is often the case that your end users will want a lot more software in the image than is necessary to test a given iteration 2010-07-23 09:07:54 < SynrG> if you're working on testing a change in the live-boot or live-config layers, you don't necessarily care about every package ... 2010-07-23 09:07:54 -!- Jordan_U_ is now known as Jordan_U 2010-07-23 09:08:06 < SynrG> have a minimal image configuration handy that you can rebuild quicker for such tests. 2010-07-23 09:11:27 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 09:12:18 < Kasreyn> Jordan_U: do you have neighbours? :) 2010-07-23 09:23:51 < hfr> thanks for all the help 2010-07-23 09:24:18 < hfr> "lh config -r live.debian.net" seems to have solved my issue with the user not existing :) 2010-07-23 10:32:03 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.159.125] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 10:49:38 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.159.125] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-23 10:58:28 < hramrach_> Hello 2010-07-23 10:59:01 < hramrach_> dba: Installing plymount in the image breaks build 2010-07-23 10:59:07 < hramrach_> *plymouth 2010-07-23 11:01:08 < BTS> Opened #590057 in live-installer-launcher 15 by Timo Juhani Lindfors «No common CD-ROM drive was detected.». http://bugs.debian.org/590057 2010-07-23 13:12:20 -!- juliank (Julian Andres Klode) [~juliank@p5B2529D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 13:50:45 < CIA-3> daniel debian-next * rc121de9 live-config/ (8 files in 8 dirs): Adding option to set x-session-manager in preparation for multi-desktop images. 2010-07-23 14:03:56 < CIA-3> daniel debian-next * re863b10 live-helper/examples/hooks/all_chroot_losetup-lukshome.sh: Adding updated losetup-lukshome hook from Rui Miguel P. Bernardo . 2010-07-23 14:15:33 -!- Father0fNine [~Father0fN@207.225.184.101] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-23 14:19:26 < CIA-3> daniel debian-next * r25036e4 live-boot/ (hooks/live scripts/live): Adding support for resolving DNS names from initramfs, thanks to Michal Suchanek for initial patch which this is based on (Closes: #589659). 2010-07-23 15:29:50 -!- Father0fNine (Darren) [~Father0fN@207.225.184.101] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 15:31:09 < Father0fNine> live-config: the example has the package installing in /lib/live/. but I don't find where it is being loaded in the /lib/live/config.sh (and the script didn't seem to run). Did I miss something in the directions? 2010-07-23 15:35:43 < unixabg> Father0fNine, can you paste what you are trying to call with live-config? 2010-07-23 15:35:44 < dba> Father0fNine: live-config needs a backend, see e.g. live-config-sysvinit. 2010-07-23 15:36:46 < dba> .oO(which is why this: 2010-07-23 15:36:49 < dba> Package: live-config 2010-07-23 15:36:57 < dba> Depends: ${misc:Depends}, live-config-sysvinit | live-config-backend 2010-07-23 15:36:58 < dba> P 2010-07-23 15:37:01 < dba> ) 2010-07-23 15:40:38 < Father0fNine> dba: I would assume that live-helper takes care of that when it builds the CD. I'm building a CD using the lxde packages lists. I want the user password to be blank, not "live" so I copied 002-user* script and changed the password. I also put a password on root in that file. I packaged the script up via the "examples" directory is /usr/share/doc/live-config/* and put the resulting deb into config/chroot_packages. 2010-07-23 15:42:45 < Father0fNine> After I get the ISO file and test, the password is still "live". I log into the tty and check. The new script is in /lib/live. I'm building a new config with debug turned on but in the mean time, I thought I'd ask if there was anything obvious I did wrong. 2010-07-23 15:44:17 < Father0fNine> unixabg: it's just a copy of 002-user* with the password variable changed... 2010-07-23 16:05:17 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-23 16:06:09 < unixabg> Father0fNine, and you are calling with live-config.blah ? 2010-07-23 16:06:18 < unixabg> Father0fNine, and you are calling with live-config.blah=whatever? 2010-07-23 16:06:41 < dba> you can't put the same script in a different package and install both, 2010-07-23 16:06:45 < dba> they will conflict. 2010-07-23 16:10:53 < Father0fNine> unixabg: No... so add "live-config.foobar" to the bootappend-live string? 2010-07-23 16:11:08 < Father0fNine> dba: I renamed it. They install in different directories anyway. 2010-07-23 16:14:09 < unixabg> Father0fNine, I think you need to do that. 2010-07-23 16:20:52 < dba> different directories!? 2010-07-23 16:26:49 < Father0fNine> dba: The package created in the example directories has the custom script installed in /lib/live. The prepackaged scripts are all in.../lib/live/config 2010-07-23 16:33:13 < dba> indeed 2010-07-23 16:33:18 < dba> which is wrong.. 2010-07-23 16:33:22 < dba> stupid me 2010-07-23 16:33:47 < Father0fNine> eh? 2010-07-23 16:34:28 < CIA-3> daniel debian-next * rae363de live-config/examples/live-config-foobar/debian/install: Correcting install location for scripts in example package. 2010-07-23 16:47:07 -!- pollux_ (Pierre Chifflier) [~pollux@fydelkass.inl.fr] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 16:47:07 -!- pollux [~pollux@fydelkass.inl.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-23 16:47:17 -!- pollux_ is now known as pollux 2010-07-23 17:16:15 -!- teresaejunior (187.82.119.169) [bb5277a9@ircip1.mibbit.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 17:20:09 < Father0fNine> In pseudo-layman's terms what is the difference between chroot and binary (in particular, when would you want to put files in chroot_local-includes and when would you want to use binary_local-includes? 2010-07-23 18:01:01 -!- teresaejunior [bb5277a9@ircip1.mibbit.com] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client] 2010-07-23 18:10:47 < dba> chroot: stuff is processed ont he live filesystem. 2010-07-23 18:10:56 < dba> binary: stiff is processed on the live media filesystem. 2010-07-23 19:22:16 -!- Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> coulomb.oftc.net quits: franklin, rhaeder, pollux 2010-07-23 19:22:24 -!- Netsplit over, joins: pollux, rhaeder 2010-07-23 19:22:24 -!- franklin (Franklin PIAT) [~fpiat@klabs.be] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 19:23:46 < Father0fNine> found my issue... cache->rootfs kills me everytime. 2010-07-23 19:25:46 < SynrG> i don't know what that means 2010-07-23 20:05:34 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 21:39:53 -!- unixabg [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-23 22:08:59 -!- juliank [~juliank@p5B2529D9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-23 22:21:52 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@c-66-30-141-145.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 22:22:23 < mikap> do daily builds of debian-live exist? 2010-07-23 22:27:14 < lindi-> mikap: you can do your own hourly builds with the live builder 2010-07-23 22:27:44 < mikap> lindi-: that's not my question :) 2010-07-23 22:41:50 -!- d0rt [~ni@c-66-30-141-145.hsd1.ct.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-23 22:45:52 < dba> in theory we do have dailies, it's just that they were stopped for some time due to server maintenance. 2010-07-23 22:46:13 < dba> (and there was no point to do it until live-boot was in) 2010-07-23 23:04:36 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-23 23:15:53 < mikap> dba: ok, is there a place i can/should point to in my talk? 2010-07-23 23:22:03 < dba> live.debian.net, or what do you mean? 2010-07-23 23:26:13 < mikap> dba: ubuntu has daily builds, grml has daily builds and i'd like to include a pointer for daily builds of debian-live 2010-07-23 23:29:08 < dba> once they are back they are linked to on live.debian.net, 2010-07-23 23:29:17 < dba> just as anything else is linked from that page. 2010-07-23 23:30:04 < dba> so for everything, you can just refere to live.debian.net. 2010-07-23 23:30:04 < mikap> hm ok 2010-07-23 23:34:47 < mikap> ok, thx --- Day changed Sat Jul 24 2010 2010-07-24 01:32:49 -!- CIA-3 [cia@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-24 02:32:58 -!- CIA-6 (CIA Bot (http://cia.vc)) [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-24 03:58:56 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-24 03:59:15 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-24 07:03:28 -!- Father0f1ine (Darren) [~Father0fN@207.225.184.101] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-24 07:04:02 -!- yaegashi_ (YAEGASHI Takeshi) [~yaegashi@li57-45.members.linode.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-24 07:04:19 -!- kgoetz (Karl Goetz) [~kgoetz@140.186.70.35] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-24 07:04:34 -!- Netsplit synthon.oftc.net <-> oxygen.oftc.net quits: Kamping_Kaiser, Father0fNine, yaegashi 2010-07-24 07:49:19 -!- smv (Sorin-Mihai Vârgolici) [smv@89.137.231.60] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-24 11:13:45 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-24 11:17:09 < SynrG> dba: hm. you say #590057 was fixed in 2.0~a19-1. what was alpha2 built with, then? i just reproduced the issue using the alpha2 gnome image 2010-07-24 11:39:06 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-24 11:39:25 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-24 12:18:42 < dba> SynrG: alpha2 is a iso-hybrid, the reason there is a different one. 2010-07-24 12:23:01 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-24 12:23:25 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-24 12:48:47 < SynrG> dba: oh, i see. the bug is just fixed for usb-hdd. duh. missed that part 2010-07-24 12:53:13 < dba> SynrG: no; #590057 is about missing .disk files on usb-hdd images; 2010-07-24 12:53:59 < dba> which is fixed; however, in general, it fails still if you don't use daily or, if d-i itself is broken. 2010-07-24 13:34:29 < SynrG> dba: oh, ok 2010-07-24 13:34:37 < SynrG> i'm using daily 2010-07-24 13:35:11 < SynrG> should usb-hdd work, then? (but not iso-hybrid yet?) 2010-07-24 13:37:04 < dba> they should both work, unless d-i for that very day has other problems. 2010-07-24 13:50:13 < SynrG> hmm 2010-07-24 13:50:54 < SynrG> well, then why doesn't alpha2 work, giving the same CD-ROM error as before? 2010-07-24 13:51:26 < SynrG> i may not have reproduced #590057, but i'm getting the same symptoms 2010-07-24 13:52:08 < SynrG> doesn't alpha2 use daily? 2010-07-24 13:55:40 < dba> are you using the launcher or are you booting it? 2010-07-24 14:06:20 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-24 14:09:14 < SynrG> dba: using the launcher 2010-07-24 14:17:10 < dba> SynrG: well, using the launcher has different problems alltogether anyway 2010-07-24 14:17:27 < dba> this has never properly worked, don't you remember when we last looked at it? 2010-07-24 14:22:30 < SynrG> yes. my only concern was confusion over what you meant when you said in the bug "this is fixed" 2010-07-24 14:22:38 < SynrG> i didn't know what "this" referred to :) 2010-07-24 14:23:24 < SynrG> and i had never tested ~a19-1 ... 2010-07-24 14:23:27 < dba> this particular bug is fixed, that usb-hdd images did not contain .disk info and thus d-i failed to recognize it when ti was mounting them. 2010-07-24 14:23:34 < SynrG> ok 2010-07-24 14:23:56 < SynrG> the workaround works now, though, where it failed before. i somehow did manage to continue ... 2010-07-24 14:24:02 < SynrG> using alpha2 2010-07-24 14:24:21 < SynrG> tell it to load cdrom drivers from external media, select 'none' ... 2010-07-24 14:24:35 < SynrG> specify the device for the installer usb key 2010-07-24 14:24:43 < SynrG> then it proceeds to load installer components 2010-07-24 14:24:49 < SynrG> until it hits the pppoe failure 2010-07-24 14:25:07 < SynrG> then select the network configuration. from there on, the rest should work (but shortly after that, i stopped the test) 2010-07-24 14:25:32 < dba> mammadori: do you think you've got some time for #588306? i would be nice if you could have a look at it, since i'm uncertain about that netboot stuff 2010-07-24 14:25:45 < dba> mammadori: and you've got much more clue about it. 2010-07-24 14:26:18 < dba> SynrG: well, again, i don't particulary care about the launcher right now, 2010-07-24 14:26:44 < dba> SynrG: i tried it last time, didn't suceed, and have no clue where to look, which is why i'm doing that with otavio. 2010-07-24 14:26:56 < dba> SynrG: the installer where you boot into works though. 2010-07-24 14:32:55 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * r5081843 live-helper/debian/ (6 files): Renaming live-helper package to its generic name live-build, now all Debian Live are consistently and properly named. 2010-07-24 14:33:06 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * reeda87d live-helper/debian/ (control rules): Splitting out cgi frontend to own package. 2010-07-24 14:33:35 < SynrG> dba: yup. that's fine, then 2010-07-24 14:35:45 < dba> SynrG: or in other words: live-installer works properly, and live-installer-launcher hopefully in a couple of days. 2010-07-24 14:39:09 < SynrG> ok 2010-07-24 14:45:48 < CIA-6> daniel * rdf762cc wiki-content/ (10 files in 5 dirs): Updating pages for live-build. 2010-07-24 15:01:03 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * r6bc15d7 live-config/Makefile: Simplyfing scripts definition in makefile. 2010-07-24 15:09:57 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * rd039300 live-build/ (163 files in 4 dirs): Rearranging helpers scripts in source tree. 2010-07-24 15:10:59 -!- smv [smv@89.137.231.60] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-24 15:12:13 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * r7fdbb8e live-build/ (VERSION manpages/bin/update-version.sh): Using global version file. 2010-07-24 15:18:11 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * r78f3e8f live-build/po/Makefile: Updating po makefile. 2010-07-24 15:20:09 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * r1a712e9 live-build/examples/sources/ (4 files): Removing example sources, not really useful anymore since repositories are in place. 2010-07-24 15:27:10 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * ra76faeb live-build/ (323 files in 7 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a20-1. 2010-07-24 15:28:45 < CIA-6> daniel debian * re863b10 live-build/examples/hooks/all_chroot_losetup-lukshome.sh: Adding updated losetup-lukshome hook from Rui Miguel P. 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2010-07-26 09:08:37 < mammadori> s/ppp/pppoe 2010-07-26 09:21:44 < SynrG> is it breaking for you too? 2010-07-26 09:25:37 < hfr> hi guys, quick question.. shouldnt it be enough to set "lh config --grub-splash" to a .xpm.gz (14 colors, 640x480) file ? does the file need to be placed at a specific location under config/ or something? 2010-07-26 09:32:31 < SynrG> config/binary_grub 2010-07-26 09:39:24 < hfr> thanks 2010-07-26 09:40:10 < hfr> for some reason i expected lh config to copy the file himself *g* 2010-07-26 10:10:09 < mammadori> SynrG: it is annoying, I would like to remove it 2010-07-26 10:25:08 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-26 10:25:41 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 10:38:53 < SynrG> hfr: we're working on live-ai. but it's missing some vital pieces of infrastructure to make it work properly 2010-07-26 10:42:29 < hfr> ;) 2010-07-26 11:10:48 < SynrG> mammadori: ask #debian-boot? 2010-07-26 12:24:05 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 12:26:04 -!- plhardy (purple) [~philippe@92.103.174.253] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 12:28:30 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-26 12:35:00 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 12:39:22 < dba> mammadori: i've never used ppp in d-i, and i don't remember to need to disable it. 2010-07-26 12:39:52 < dba> mammadori: when using d-i in auto mode, i though one has to specifically enable it, and otherwise it just gets skipped just as the other 'unused' stuff. 2010-07-26 13:11:29 < mammadori> dba: building a squeeze with "--debian-installer=live --debian-installer-distribution=squeeze" I end with that pesky ppp in it, and it is really annoying 2010-07-26 13:12:38 < mammadori> dba: do you have an hook in mind to disable it at build time, if I just remove it with a binary_local-hook, could that work? 2010-07-26 13:33:39 < SynrG> dba: the thing is, i think as soon as i hit that CD-ROM error it degrades out of auto mode ... 2010-07-26 13:33:48 < SynrG> i think that's why i end up with pppoe failures :p 2010-07-26 13:34:08 < SynrG> so i'll just wait until we've addressed the CD-ROM business in installer launcher and all should be well for me. 2010-07-26 13:35:50 < SynrG> mammadori: it's just the extra processing time to run a step that's just going to be skipped anyway? 2010-07-26 13:41:49 < mammadori> SynrG: so it is an errorr, maybe in the preseed that could trigger the ppp udeb configuration? 2010-07-26 13:42:39 < mammadori> SynrG: I would like to avoid the ppp config because when if fails it interrupts the unattended install 2010-07-26 13:56:15 < SynrG> mammadori: yes. i think so. but this should be clarified with debian-boot 2010-07-26 13:56:24 < SynrG> this is my best guess at what is happening 2010-07-26 13:56:35 < SynrG> i may be entirely wrong 2010-07-26 13:57:07 < SynrG> i asked daniel about this a while ago and he said he was not seeing any complaints from pppoe config step 2010-07-26 13:57:29 < SynrG> so something is different for me. i know for certain there is a prior failed step in my case. 2010-07-26 13:57:39 < SynrG> it is due to a bug that has not yet been solved. 2010-07-26 13:57:51 < SynrG> so i have not yet had a clean image to test to compare this with. 2010-07-26 14:06:47 < dba> SynrG: could be (about dropping out of auto, but i think it's unlikely) 2010-07-26 14:07:28 < dba> mammadori: in general, for d-i, until squeeze is released, --debian-installer-distribution daily is 'better' than using the outdated alpha1 release (which --debian-installer-distribution squeeze would equal to) 2010-07-26 14:07:57 < dba> SynrG: let's check that ppp and dropping out of auto with otavio when you're here. 2010-07-26 14:28:45 < SynrG> sure 2010-07-26 14:29:01 < SynrG> "here" ... envy 2010-07-26 14:29:09 < SynrG> i couldn't afford to take the extra time for debcamp 2010-07-26 14:44:47 < mammadori> I'll try also tried debian-installer daily a few days ago, I'll rebuild one today 2010-07-26 15:25:16 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-26 15:30:21 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 15:32:47 -!- intrigeri [~intrigeri@gaffer.ptitcanardnoir.org] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-26 15:33:42 -!- intrigeri (0xFD586E52) [~intrigeri@gaffer.ptitcanardnoir.org] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 15:38:10 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2010-07-26 15:40:57 < hramrach__> hello 2010-07-26 15:41:19 < hramrach__> dba: last time I built an image with plymouth plymouth would break the build 2010-07-26 15:43:33 < hramrach__> perhaps it has something to do with "Since initramfs-tools 0.97 execute hook hook scripts under 'set -e' so they have the option to cancel the initramfs generatio on fatal error" 2010-07-26 15:45:53 < SynrG> and plymouth is not returning a non-zero status for some stupid reason, yeah 2010-07-26 15:46:02 < SynrG> hack around that by sprinkling in an 'exit 0' 2010-07-26 15:46:16 < SynrG> i think we covered this in an earlier session here 2010-07-26 15:47:06 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 15:48:08 < SynrG> hramrach__: we were helping Kasreyn with this, who eventually got it to work: 2010-07-26 15:48:11 < SynrG> irclogs/debian-live-2010-07-15:10:53 < dba> the whole plymouth scripts are somewhat buggy 2010-07-26 15:48:15 < SynrG> irclogs/debian-live-2010-07-15-10:54 < SynrG> dba: hence the non-zero return status? 2010-07-26 15:48:18 < SynrG> irclogs/debian-live-2010-07-15-10:54 < SynrG> dba: so 'exit 0' is a valid workaround? 2010-07-26 15:48:21 < SynrG> irclogs/debian-live-2010-07-15-10:54 < dba> also, there's some trouble with to tightened depends i think 2010-07-26 15:48:24 < SynrG> irclogs/debian-live-2010-07-15-10:54 < dba> SynrG: yes; 2010-07-26 15:48:58 < hramrach__> I see. So it's known and going to be fixed eventually. 2010-07-26 15:49:00 < hramrach__> thanks 2010-07-26 15:49:08 < SynrG> yup 2010-07-26 16:08:17 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-26 16:46:36 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-26 16:49:23 < Father0f1ine> I'm doing something wrong. If I want to run all live-config scripts except 002-user-config but I want to run my 002-my-user-config instead... I thought all I needed was live-noconfig=002-user-config and to drop my script into the /lib/live/scripts directory but it looks like when I do (all) that, it looks like none of the config scripts run. Am I doing something wrong? 2010-07-26 16:51:37 < Father0f1ine> Is it possible that the case is matching on "live-noconfig" first and not making it to "live-noconfig=*" ? 2010-07-26 17:16:29 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host56-30-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 17:23:03 < unixabg> Father0f1ine, can you paste your script? 2010-07-26 17:23:25 < unixabg> I think it would be something like live-config.my-user= 2010-07-26 17:28:02 -!- shoragan_ [~shoragan@sicherheitsschwankung.de] has quit [Quit: shoragan_] 2010-07-26 17:32:37 -!- shoragan_ [~shoragan@sicherheitsschwankung.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 17:32:37 -!- tassia [~tassia@dyn-209-2-238-160.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 17:36:40 < Father0f1ine> like this: http://paste.debian.net/81451/ 2010-07-26 17:45:06 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 17:47:21 < unixabg> Father0f1ine, the line: live-noconfig=002-user-setup 2010-07-26 17:47:27 < unixabg> does not look correct 2010-07-26 17:47:40 < unixabg> Also can you paste your 002-my-user-config 2010-07-26 17:48:28 < Father0f1ine> I can. I don't know what difference that would make. It's just 002-user-config with the "blank" password set in the variable instead of the "live" password. 2010-07-26 17:50:36 < unixabg> how about a diff on them 2010-07-26 17:50:48 < unixabg> Also did you just replace the file in your build? 2010-07-26 17:53:28 < Father0f1ine> http://paste.debian.net/81452/ 2010-07-26 17:55:41 < Father0f1ine> No. Both 002-user-setup and 002-my-user-setup are in the /lib/live/config directory. d-l does it's magic to install the live-config package and I have a custom package that has my script (and only that script) which installs in the same directory. From what I can tell, that's the approved way of adding "vendor" scripts. 2010-07-26 18:00:50 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-26 18:01:17 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 18:05:02 < cody-somerville> dba, Would it be possible to split the bug mail + e-mails from dak and devel discussion into two separate lists? 2010-07-26 18:05:16 < cody-somerville> (and maybe a third for support) 2010-07-26 18:07:22 < unixabg> Father0f1ine, could you humor me and try naming 002-user-setup-my? 2010-07-26 18:07:33 < unixabg> It could be a race condition 2010-07-26 18:07:50 -!- Kasreyn [~i@h59ec10ac.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-26 18:23:06 < mikap> cody-somerville: good suggestion, +1 from me :) 2010-07-26 18:23:26 < mikap> anyone else than dba here at debcamp already? 2010-07-26 18:30:37 < SynrG> not me, sadly 2010-07-26 18:30:46 < SynrG> not until saturday 2010-07-26 18:35:37 < cody-somerville> unfortunately I won't be attending. maybe next time though. 2010-07-26 18:37:01 < mikap> SynrG: ok, looking forward to meet you :) 2010-07-26 18:37:12 < mikap> cody-somerville: :( well, then see you in bosnia :) 2010-07-26 18:40:15 -!- Kasreyn (Harman Smith) [~i@h59ec10ac.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 18:56:38 < cody-somerville> really?? 2010-07-26 18:56:43 < cody-somerville> I've always wanted to go to Bosnia. 2010-07-26 19:29:50 < mikap> cody-somerville: yeah, debconf11 will take place in bosnia 2010-07-26 19:34:27 < cody-somerville> mikap, Is a date set yet? 2010-07-26 19:35:27 < mikap> cody-somerville: AFAIK not yet, but i'll ask the guys from bosnia that are here in NY, otherwise follow http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11 2010-07-26 19:35:40 < cody-somerville> Will do, thanks for the link. :) 2010-07-26 19:38:18 < mikap> np 2010-07-26 19:42:59 < BTS> Opened #590494 in live-boot by Jon Bobson «ip= parses incorrectly». http://bugs.debian.org/590494 2010-07-26 20:09:13 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-26 20:22:58 < dba> Father0f1ine: it's live-noconfig=foo, not live-nonconfig=nnn-foo 2010-07-26 20:23:23 < dba> cody-somerville: re splitting list: no, too low traffic. 2010-07-26 20:24:29 < dba> listmaster will not allow that (i personally think that it's not needed to split it anyway). 2010-07-26 20:26:42 < cody-somerville> dba, I get way too much stuff from debian-live ml that I don't want :P 2010-07-26 20:27:03 < dba> then fix your filters; 2010-07-26 20:27:14 < dba> using procmail to seperate out dak/bts is simple. 2010-07-26 20:27:29 < dba> look at the X- headers, they are there for exactely that purpose. 2010-07-26 20:28:09 < dba> and of course, you're welcome to discuss the requirements for splittet out lists with listmasters and let me know the result. 2010-07-26 20:43:18 -!- unixabg [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-26 20:48:51 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * rb059922 live-config/manpages/ (6 files in 6 dirs): Adding updated French manpage translation from Thierry L??picier . 2010-07-26 20:56:17 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * rd849668 live-config/Makefile: Don't fail in Makefile when there's no checkbashism (Closes: #590407). 2010-07-26 21:03:08 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * re0f93a7 live-boot/Makefile: Don't fail in Makefile when there's no checkbashism. 2010-07-26 21:05:29 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host56-30-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-26 21:05:42 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host56-30-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 21:43:42 < Father0f1ine> dba: but that doesn't explain why it seems like none of the scripts run from live-config 2010-07-26 21:44:43 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host56-30-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-26 22:12:17 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 23:06:41 < dba> SynrG: we've fixed the cdrom-try usb thing in live-installer-launcher 2010-07-26 23:06:45 < dba> commit in svn 2010-07-26 23:07:30 < dba> mammadori, SynrG: otavio sais that the ppp thing is a regression from the ppp package in sid. 2010-07-26 23:07:44 < dba> so please either one of you, report a bug against it, if possible. 2010-07-26 23:55:54 -!- cuba33ci (cuba33ci) [~cuba33ci@111-240-219-77.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 23:59:18 -!- cuba33ci_ [~cuba33ci@111-240-216-241.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-26 23:59:34 -!- PovAddict (Nicolás Alvarez) [~nicolas@190.189.227.89] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-26 23:59:59 < PovAddict> are the new debian-live images available through BitTorrent, so I don't hit cdimage.debian.org? --- Day changed Tue Jul 27 2010 2010-07-27 00:10:56 -!- tassia [~tassia@dyn-209-2-238-160.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-27 00:40:59 < SynrG> aha. ok 2010-07-27 02:24:24 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-139-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 02:28:01 -!- rhaeder1 [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-151-039.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-27 03:02:31 < dba> PovAddict: alpha2? no, since i though it's not worth the efforts as there's most likely a beta1 will be in some days 2010-07-27 03:05:05 < PovAddict> ah interesting 2010-07-27 03:05:34 < PovAddict> I think I'll do my own live image anyway... I want to try kde plasma netbook (on a netbook :P) without touching hard disk 2010-07-27 03:15:22 < BTS> live-build (NEW) 2.0~a20-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-build 2010-07-27 03:26:49 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 03:27:25 < dba> lamby: thanks a lot! 2010-07-27 03:28:12 -!- tassia (Tássia Camões Araújo) [~tassia@dyn-209-2-238-160.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 03:41:39 -!- mode/#debian-live [+o dba] by ChanServ 2010-07-27 03:41:44 -!- mode/#debian-live [+c] by dba 2010-07-27 03:41:54 -!- mode/#debian-live [-o dba] by ChanServ 2010-07-27 03:44:55 -!- mode/#debian-live [+o dba] by ChanServ 2010-07-27 03:44:57 -!- mode/#debian-live [-c] by dba 2010-07-27 03:45:00 -!- mode/#debian-live [+c] by ChanServ 2010-07-27 03:45:13 -!- mode/#debian-live [+Ri] by dba 2010-07-27 03:45:22 -!- mode/#debian-live [-cn] by dba 2010-07-27 03:45:25 -!- mode/#debian-live [+c] by ChanServ 2010-07-27 03:45:25 -!- mode/#debian-live [-c] by dba 2010-07-27 03:45:28 -!- mode/#debian-live [+c] by ChanServ 2010-07-27 03:49:56 -!- raphael (Raphael Geissert) [~raphael@dyn-209-2-227-134.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 03:49:56 -!- raphael (Raphael Geissert) [~raphael@dyn-209-2-227-134.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 03:49:56 -!- raphael (Raphael Geissert) [~raphael@dyn-209-2-227-134.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 03:50:02 -!- mode/#debian-live [+o raphael] by ChanServ 2010-07-27 03:50:16 -!- mode/#debian-live [-icn] by raphael 2010-07-27 03:50:19 -!- mode/#debian-live [+c] by ChanServ 2010-07-27 03:50:39 -!- mode/#debian-live [+ni] by raphael 2010-07-27 03:50:49 -!- mode/#debian-live [-in] by raphael 2010-07-27 03:53:57 -!- mode/#debian-live [-Rc] by raphael 2010-07-27 03:54:00 -!- mode/#debian-live [+n] by raphael 2010-07-27 04:38:25 -!- raphael [~raphael@dyn-209-2-227-134.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Quit: 'night] 2010-07-27 04:42:22 -!- mode/#debian-live [-o dba] by ChanServ 2010-07-27 04:42:48 -!- Irssi: #debian-live: Total of 44 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 44 normal] 2010-07-27 05:09:54 < tiagovaz> dba: E: Couldn't find package auto :p 2010-07-27 05:10:31 < tiagovaz> http://tiagovaz.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/live-installer-pre-alpha-almost-tested-just-released/ 2010-07-27 05:12:12 < tiagovaz> http://pastebin.com/16YLpWGv 2010-07-27 05:20:50 < tiagovaz> any thought? (from a lazy enduser) 2010-07-27 05:25:18 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-27 05:25:44 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 05:30:42 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-27 05:33:43 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 06:22:33 -!- tassia [~tassia@dyn-209-2-238-160.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-27 06:46:13 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * r46f47a8 live-config/debian/control: Adding alternative depends to runit-run on live-config-sysvinit, thanks to Daniel Kahn Gillmor . 2010-07-27 06:54:57 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-27 06:58:00 < mammadori> dba: does otavio know a temporary workaround? 2010-07-27 06:59:41 < dba> mammadori: i'll ask him 2010-07-27 06:59:47 < dba> (tomorrow morning) 2010-07-27 06:59:52 < dba> it's 3am now :) 2010-07-27 07:03:57 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * r10bbb53 live-boot/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.1. 2010-07-27 07:04:45 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * r3577018 live-build/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.1. 2010-07-27 07:05:21 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * r0d13634 live-config/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.1. 2010-07-27 07:05:32 < CIA-6> daniel debian * r7f605ff live-config-staging/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.1. 2010-07-27 07:05:48 < CIA-6> daniel * rcbd1873 live-magic/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.1. 2010-07-27 07:10:19 < mammadori> I forgot TZ :-9 2010-07-27 07:12:33 -!- Severian (Ralph) [~ralph@108-82.netblk-66-60-82.yada.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 07:13:04 -!- Severian is now known as PythonPup 2010-07-27 07:49:14 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 07:52:42 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 08:07:19 -!- monkey_d_luffy [~monkey_d_@co3-84-90-131-143.netvisao.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-27 09:00:46 < Kasreyn> whats going on here then? /usr/share/live-helper/helpers/chroot_debianchroot: line 49: chroot/etc/debian_chroot: No such file or directory 2010-07-27 09:02:16 < Kasreyn> i'll try lh clean 2010-07-27 09:24:38 < CIA-6> amadorim debian-next * r4f2a2e4 live-build/debian/control: 2010-07-27 09:24:38 < CIA-6> Typo: live-helper should depend on live-boot. 2010-07-27 09:24:38 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Marco Amadori 2010-07-27 09:43:49 < mammadori> dba: please change the above commit message, I did a typo in the message of a typo fix :-) s/live-boot/live-build 2010-07-27 09:44:14 < mammadori> (the commit code is right, the commit message is not) 2010-07-27 10:00:20 < hramrach__> dba: I have fix for the omitpids to work with readonly image as well 2010-07-27 10:06:05 < hramrach__> rebased on git tip, still looks good: http://repo.or.cz/w/debian-live-boot/hramrach.git/shortlog/refs/heads/wip 2010-07-27 10:14:12 < hramrach__> I see you merged the dns support. Thanks 2010-07-27 10:23:53 -!- leszek (leszek) [~leszek@ip-88-153-37-184.unitymediagroup.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 10:23:57 < leszek> hi 2010-07-27 10:24:10 < leszek> how to enable rw on a live media when booting from a live debian system ? Which live-initramfs script need I change to mount the /live/image rw on my live usb stick ? 2010-07-27 11:06:02 < SynrG> dba: ouch! no lh binary in 2.0~a20+20100724.153121 2010-07-27 11:06:08 < SynrG> reverting 2010-07-27 11:06:15 < SynrG> (i mean on my local system) 2010-07-27 11:07:58 < SynrG> there are 621 files in live-helper 2.0~a19 2010-07-27 11:08:25 < SynrG> there are 12 in 2.0~a20+20100724.153121 :( 2010-07-27 11:13:14 < SynrG> just wrote a brief note to the list for the sake of those tracking sid-snapshots 2010-07-27 11:13:47 < SynrG> dba: with any luck it's something simple/stupid and will be solved soon? :) when i say "we" i mean you. i have to work ... 2010-07-27 11:14:05 < SynrG> let me know if there is some way i can help, though, and i will check back here 2010-07-27 11:17:40 < hramrach__> leszek: try parameters.txt or live-boot(7) 2010-07-27 11:20:55 < hramrach__> leszek: what is mounted in /live/image when you boot the live system? 2010-07-27 11:22:08 < hramrach__> For me it is the iso (which is obviously readonly) or tmpfs in case I have bare filesystem.squashfs on the web. 2010-07-27 11:24:42 < hramrach__> I would expect the usb stick to be there in case of USB 2010-07-27 11:35:47 < leszek> hramrach__: yes /live/image is ro and shows the contents of the usb stick which is formatted fat32 and contains the main iso stuff like live directory with kernel and filesystem.squashfs 2010-07-27 11:36:21 < leszek> it would be nice to have this rw to write pdfs or other documents to my usb stick, so that this stick can be used on win or mac 2010-07-27 11:38:54 < leszek> hramrach__: I can remount it with mount -o remount rw /live/image and then write with root rights on it, but I want it to have rw right from the start 2010-07-27 11:41:28 < hramrach__> I suggest you put this into a script like /etc/rc.local or somesuch 2010-07-27 11:42:02 < hramrach__> and file a bug that there is no parameter for this (or is not documented well enough) 2010-07-27 11:44:54 < hramrach__> leszek: note that you propbably want to add the uid parameter or umask parameter to the mount so that the live user can write the the stick (if the files are root ownde by dafault) 2010-07-27 11:46:20 < hramrach__> hmm, I don't have an usb stick at hand to try this 2010-07-27 11:47:54 -!- adrian15b (adrian) [~adrian@83.34.17.242] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 11:49:52 < leszek> hramrach__: where is the live-initramfs script that mounts root and /live/image ? If I find this I set it to mount rw and that should do the trick 2010-07-27 11:50:22 < adrian15b> Can I build an amd64 debian-live cd from a x86 system if I have downloaded the right mirror or... should I need to boot with an amd64 kernel ? Thank you very much. If you know also how to multiboot amd64 and x86 in the same cdrom that would be great too. Do you recommend me to use unstable or lenny? Thank you very much for your pieces of advice. 2010-07-27 11:52:46 < hramrach__> it should work if you add "mount /live/image -o remount,rw,uid=1000" at the end of /etc/rc.local (or store the modified file in chroot_local-includes) 2010-07-27 11:53:24 < hramrach__> it does not require patching the live script but you can if you want. It's in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scritps/live 2010-07-27 11:55:04 < hramrach__> mm, you can make it writable by remounting but not user-writable. That has to be done from the start I guess. 2010-07-27 11:55:12 < hramrach__> at least on Lenny 2010-07-27 11:56:45 < leszek> yes thats true 2010-07-27 11:56:59 < leszek> i worked with /etc/rc.local before :P 2010-07-27 12:00:08 < hramrach__> adrian15b: you can build amd64 on amd64 kernel even if the rest of the system is i386 I would expect 2010-07-27 12:01:05 < hramrach__> Using squeeze (testing) is recommended. It has recent packages and fails less often than sid. Building Lenny is basically obsolete. 2010-07-27 12:09:06 < adrian15b> hramrach__: Currently I have some reports about people seeing BOOT ERROR just when the live cd boots, I suppose it has something to do with amd64 and x86, isn't it ? 2010-07-27 12:10:25 < adrian15b> hramrach__: And my kernel is 486 although hardware is amd64 capable 2010-07-27 12:11:02 < adrian15b> hramrach__: Squeeze.... ok... I'll try to download the mirror this afternoon then. 2010-07-27 12:13:12 < adrian15b> I will boot with a 486-kernel on an unstable-i386-system in order to build an amd64 squeeze debian live cd? Any objection on this particular setup? 2010-07-27 12:13:39 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-27 12:20:52 -!- moldovean (Ion.Moldoman) [~Moldoman@144.85.45.209] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 12:31:31 < hramrach__> you need amd64 kernel at least to build amd64 image. You can boot an amd64 kernel on i386 so long as the hardware is amd64 capable. You can always do i386 (i686) images which should work on amd64 just fine. 2010-07-27 12:39:46 < SynrG> dam: re installer launcher, yay! seems to work. but right now there is a kernel version mismatch between daily and squeeze. bleah :p 2010-07-27 12:40:18 < SynrG> after that, I still get PPPoE problem, but since I had a prior error i'm still wondering if it's because it gets dumped out of auto mode 2010-07-27 12:42:09 -!- kgoetz is now known as Kamping_Kaiser 2010-07-27 12:44:52 < CIA-6> Bolrock * r27a4a27 wiki-content/recentchanges.mdwn: 2010-07-27 12:45:50 < mammadori> SynrG: I fixed the "bug" above your bug report :-) 2010-07-27 12:46:01 < mammadori> Typo: live-helper should depend on live-boot. 2010-07-27 12:50:12 < mammadori> SynrG: I had to use a kernel hooks in order to have sid build to be succesful, does not happen with squeeze: 2010-07-27 12:51:08 < mammadori> http://paste.debian.net/81534/ 2010-07-27 12:52:14 < mammadori> I will investigate why this will happen, but it smells of mdadm initramfs-tools conflict 2010-07-27 12:53:57 < SynrG> s/dam:/dba:/ oops 2010-07-27 12:54:59 < SynrG> mammadori: oh, live-helper sid-snapshots should be ok now? hmm 2010-07-27 12:55:10 < SynrG> mammadori: maybe i built mine too early in the morning? 2010-07-27 12:55:59 < SynrG> 06:26 < CIA-6> amadorim debian-next * r4f2a2e4 live-build/debian/control: 2010-07-27 12:56:11 < SynrG> 08:10 < SynrG> there are 12 in 2.0~a20+20100724.153121 :( 2010-07-27 12:56:25 < SynrG> i will recheck my dpkg.log ... 2010-07-27 12:57:30 < SynrG> oh, never mind 2010-07-27 12:57:39 < SynrG> the version# encodes the date, so that's from the 24th 2010-07-27 12:57:53 < SynrG> so why didn't sid-snapshots immediately pick up your change? 2010-07-27 12:58:00 -!- leszek [~leszek@ip-88-153-37-184.unitymediagroup.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-27 12:58:05 < SynrG> is that only for dba-approved changes? 2010-07-27 12:58:41 < SynrG> i thought sid-snapshots was based on debian-next and happened fairly rapidly after a commit 2010-07-27 12:59:19 < SynrG> about an hour and a half elapsed between your commit and me installing the bad live-helper version 2010-07-27 13:00:10 < SynrG> after an apt-get update here, i still only see: 2010-07-27 13:00:11 < SynrG> Version: 2.0~a20+20100724.153121 2010-07-27 13:02:05 < mammadori> SynrG: I think we must wait dba for that question, it is 9am in NYC, we should not wait much longer I think 2010-07-27 13:03:46 * SynrG nods 2010-07-27 13:08:07 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 13:15:24 < dba> SynrG: that gets fixed soon (in a couple of minutes) 2010-07-27 13:18:22 < SynrG> ok 2010-07-27 13:18:30 < SynrG> what's the trigger to do a new build? manual? 2010-07-27 13:19:13 < dba> webspam removed (the 'Balrock' commit from above). 2010-07-27 13:19:26 < dba> SynrG: during debcamp/debconf, yes 2010-07-27 13:20:01 < SynrG> ah, ok 2010-07-27 13:20:07 < dba> SynrG: after a couple of commits, when i feel almost sure that stuff works, i'll do trigger it manually 2010-07-27 13:20:11 < SynrG> nodnod 2010-07-27 13:20:21 < SynrG> so, just bad timing on my part :) 2010-07-27 13:20:23 < dba> otherwise, people would have too much broken stuff in the 'intermediate' time 2010-07-27 13:20:37 < dba> so i though this is kind to do :) 2010-07-27 13:21:03 < SynrG> yes, indeed :) 2010-07-27 13:28:43 < dba> blog post done.. now moving to hacklab in a few minutes, and then taking care about all the backlog regarding -live. 2010-07-27 13:33:26 -!- cuba33ci [~cuba33ci@111-240-219-77.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-27 13:36:19 -!- cuba33ci (cuba33ci) [~cuba33ci@111-251-148-150.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 13:37:18 < SynrG> http://tiagovaz.wordpress.com/2010/07/27/live-installer-pre-alpha-almost-tested-just-released/ 2010-07-27 13:37:21 < SynrG> nice pic :) 2010-07-27 13:53:48 < hramrach__> mammadori: yes, don't build with mdadm 2010-07-27 13:54:50 < hramrach__> there was an initramfs change which make initramfs break with mdadm 2010-07-27 13:56:43 < hramrach__> it probably does not happen when initramfs is already configured so it works on upgrade but not fresh installs I would expect 2010-07-27 13:57:16 < dba> now checking backlog regarding live-helper stuff... 2010-07-27 13:57:51 < dba> preparing new upload.. 2010-07-27 13:57:54 < dba> mammadori: thank you ;) 2010-07-27 14:00:30 < CIA-6> amadorim debian-next * r2d1a608 live-build/debian/control: Correcting typo, live-helper should depend on live-boot. 2010-07-27 14:06:09 < CIA-6> amadorim debian-next * r019f7ae live-build/debian/control: Correcting typo, live-helper should depend on live-build. 2010-07-27 14:06:11 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * r51e3759 live-build/ (323 files in 7 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a21-1. 2010-07-27 14:07:22 < CIA-6> daniel debian * rc4e71e4 live-build/repositories/backports.debian-maintainers.org: Updating backports repository configuration. 2010-07-27 14:07:23 < CIA-6> unixabg debian * r33caa40 live-build/cgi/cgi: Correct expression on l-b.cgi email field. 2010-07-27 14:07:31 < CIA-6> daniel debian * r3577018 live-build/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.1. 2010-07-27 14:07:31 < CIA-6> daniel debian * r8447e21 live-build/repositories/ (4 files): Removing outdated repository configurations. 2010-07-27 14:07:33 < CIA-6> daniel pristine-tar * rce85ea5 live-build/ (2 files): Adding pristine-tar version 2.0~a21. 2010-07-27 14:07:35 < CIA-6> daniel debian * r51e3759 live-build/ (323 files in 7 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a21-1. 2010-07-27 14:07:39 < CIA-6> daniel upstream * rcae7a47 live-build/ (328 files in 8 dirs): Adding upstream version 2.0~a21. 2010-07-27 14:07:50 < CIA-6> amadorim debian * r019f7ae live-build/debian/control: Correcting typo, live-helper should depend on live-build. 2010-07-27 14:07:54 < mammadori> hramrach__: there is already a bug reported against initramfs-tools? 2010-07-27 14:09:17 < mammadori> dba: maybe it worth adding something like this workaround in live-build (hacks?), when on sid mdadm is installed: http://paste.debian.net/81534/ 2010-07-27 14:12:09 < hramrach__> it's bug in mdad, supposedly 2010-07-27 14:14:31 < hramrach__> there a bug in mdadm and somebody commented about the live-initramfs change 2010-07-27 14:15:44 < dba> .oO(checking on that in a few minutes when i've catched up with other stuff from here) 2010-07-27 14:16:57 < hramrach__> I had the bug open but the PC crashed :-S 2010-07-27 14:19:38 < dba> hramrach__: merged 2010-07-27 14:19:49 < CIA-6> hramrach debian-next * r1c4dc9f live-boot/ (debian/live-boot.init scripts/live): Fix omitpids to work with readonly images. 2010-07-27 14:21:56 < hramrach__> thanks 2010-07-27 14:23:20 < hramrach__> for some reason it did not cause problems previous so I did not bother to fix it but with newer images reboot would fail when booted over httpfs 2010-07-27 14:33:07 < BTS> live-build 2.0~a21-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-build 2010-07-27 14:40:09 < SynrG> yay :) 2010-07-27 14:40:13 < SynrG> nabbed from incoming 2010-07-27 14:41:44 < hramrach__> the mdadm thing would be #589836 2010-07-27 14:42:40 < dba> hramrach__: btw, if you issue bug reports against other packages, 2010-07-27 14:42:48 < dba> but where the bug hinders something live releated, 2010-07-27 14:43:08 < dba> you may use 'Debian Live Project ' as submitter id, 2010-07-27 14:43:13 < dba> that way we can track the bugs 2010-07-27 14:43:42 < SynrG> with debian-eeepc we've been using usertags 2010-07-27 14:44:33 < SynrG> this is something that's fairly easy to change after the fact, no matter who submitted the bug 2010-07-27 14:44:43 < dba> SynrG: teach me! :) 2010-07-27 14:45:00 < SynrG> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/Bugs/About 2010-07-27 14:45:35 < SynrG> hmm. i should have "all" on that page 2010-07-27 14:49:01 -!- tassia (Tássia Camões Araújo) [~tassia@dyn-209-2-238-160.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 14:50:00 < SynrG> updated with some more links 2010-07-27 14:52:59 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 14:53:57 < dba> yay.. live-config will be in testing in a couple of hours, 2010-07-27 14:54:02 < dba> so we can start uploading stuff again! :) 2010-07-27 14:55:04 < dba> SynrG: re usertags: very nice, will add a link with surrounding text to the manual once i've finished the sisu markup stuff (later on today) 2010-07-27 15:26:42 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-27 16:05:21 < SynrG> dba: i would love to have a front-end that for a given user id, automatically links to each category and to 'all' 2010-07-27 16:05:27 < SynrG> a little web script 2010-07-27 16:05:53 < SynrG> shouldn't be difficult to write. you could just parse the 'all' link to generate all of the others 2010-07-27 16:23:24 -!- tassia [~tassia@dyn-209-2-238-160.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-27 16:24:25 -!- plhardy [~philippe@92.103.174.253] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-27 16:27:42 < SynrG> hmm. still getting no kernel modules even after putting sid kernel in config/chroot_local-packages/ ... is there something wrong with my approach? 2010-07-27 16:27:48 < SynrG> squeeze image + daily installer 2010-07-27 16:28:43 < SynrG> my log says the sid version is installed ... 2010-07-27 16:29:34 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-27 16:30:26 < SynrG> and it was accepted into sid on the 24th ... 2010-07-27 16:30:32 < SynrG> no new 'daily' since then? 2010-07-27 16:30:56 < SynrG> 09:52 < mammadori> SynrG: I had to use a kernel hooks in order to have sid build to be succesful, does not happen with squeeze: 2010-07-27 16:31:00 < SynrG> mammadori: how? 2010-07-27 16:31:07 < SynrG> my naive approach not using hooks failed :p 2010-07-27 16:31:22 < SynrG> i'm not doing a sid build though. i'm doing a squeeze build 2010-07-27 16:32:27 < SynrG> oh, another annoying thing with live-installer-launcher ... 2010-07-27 16:32:37 < SynrG> at work i have a WPA network 2010-07-27 16:32:43 < SynrG> the live system sets that up just fine 2010-07-27 16:33:09 < SynrG> how do i prevent d-i running via live-installer-launcher from tearing down my network? i want it to just use the network i've established 2010-07-27 16:34:14 < SynrG> if i can solve this then i can offer this as an alternative to people wanting to install over WPA who otherwise couldn't use the standard installer. 2010-07-27 17:55:52 < dba> SynrG: i think that component can be disabled somehow, but i'll ask otavio about it when he shows up 2010-07-27 17:57:17 < SynrG> that would be great 2010-07-27 17:57:34 < SynrG> and the kernel thing? not sure where the mismatch is 2010-07-27 17:57:36 < SynrG> my assumption is: 2010-07-27 17:57:41 < SynrG> daily uses sid kernel 2010-07-27 17:57:59 < SynrG> dropping sid in config/chroot_local-packages (where abi# doesn't differ) is enough 2010-07-27 17:58:09 < dba> the problem of yours is that the kernel versions do not match. 2010-07-27 17:58:23 < SynrG> flavour? should i be including 486? 2010-07-27 17:58:25 < dba> also, regarding live-installer, you really should have a look at the bts first to know all the known issues. 2010-07-27 17:58:34 < SynrG> ok 2010-07-27 17:58:41 -!- adrian15b [~adrian@83.34.17.242] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-27 17:58:50 -!- adrian15b (adrian) [~adrian@83.34.17.242] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 17:58:52 < dba> until we fix skip that issue regarding the modules loading, 2010-07-27 17:59:05 < dba> it's better if you just stick with -486 and avoid the problem im the first place. 2010-07-27 17:59:16 < SynrG> right. 2010-07-27 17:59:48 < SynrG> no point in including any other kernel, then? the user can install their preferred flavour afterwards 2010-07-27 18:00:03 < SynrG> keeping in mind now half the eeepcs sold are n450 2010-07-27 18:00:13 < SynrG> so 686 is no longer the most appropriate 2010-07-27 18:02:39 < SynrG> all of the bugs? ah ... but actually all i want is for network install not to fail. come to think of it, i don't really need it during the install since i'm using live-installer and it should take everything from the image itself. 2010-07-27 18:11:51 -!- adrian15b [~adrian@83.34.17.242] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-27 18:15:22 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 18:19:39 -!- Kasreyn [~i@h59ec10ac.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-27 18:19:51 -!- Kasreyn (Harman Smith) [~i@h59ec10ac.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 18:28:33 -!- d0rt [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-27 18:36:37 -!- tassia (Tássia Camões Araújo) [~tassia@dyn-209-2-238-160.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 18:41:15 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host56-30-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 19:21:45 -!- moldovean [~Moldoman@144.85.45.209] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-27 19:24:00 -!- moldovean (Ion.Moldoman) [~Moldoman@144.85.45.209] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 19:35:07 -!- Kasreyn [~i@h59ec10ac.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-27 19:35:11 -!- Kasreyn (Harman Smith) [~i@h59ec10ac.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 19:40:29 -!- Kasreyn_ (Harman Smith) [~i@h59ec10ac.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 19:40:43 -!- Kasreyn [~i@h59ec10ac.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-27 19:44:14 -!- coruja [coruja@coruja.info] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 2010-07-27 19:56:28 -!- Kasreyn_ [~i@h59ec10ac.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-27 19:59:18 -!- coruja (Markus Meyer) [coruja@coruja.info] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 20:06:54 -!- Kasreyn (Harman Smith) [~i@h59ec10ac.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 20:11:32 -!- bdheeman (Balwinder S 'bdheeman' Dheeman) [bsd@122.173.26.42] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 20:15:36 -!- bdheeman [bsd@122.173.26.42] has quit [] 2010-07-27 20:15:40 -!- bdheeman (Balwinder S 'bdheeman' Dheeman) [bsd@122.173.26.42] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 20:17:11 -!- bdheeman [bsd@122.173.26.42] has quit [] 2010-07-27 20:17:18 -!- bdheeman (Balwinder S 'bdheeman' Dheeman) [bsd@122.173.26.42] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 20:20:59 -!- bdheeman [bsd@122.173.26.42] has quit [] 2010-07-27 20:50:13 -!- unixabg [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-27 21:05:15 < dba> tassia: http://whiteboard.debian.net/dinner_jul27.wb 2010-07-27 21:05:17 < dba> tiagovaz: http://whiteboard.debian.net/dinner_jul27.wb 2010-07-27 21:05:36 < dba> tassia, tiagovaz: the menu is here: http://www.menupages.com/restaurants/ollies-2/menu 2010-07-27 21:05:41 < dba> and you can order up to 15 USD. 2010-07-27 21:20:09 < tassia> dba, thanks! 2010-07-27 21:24:42 < dba> welcome :) 2010-07-27 21:26:23 < mikap> dba: are you busy right now or do you have few minutes for me? 2010-07-27 21:32:14 < dba> mikap: i'll get to you by :45, ok? 2010-07-27 21:32:27 < mikap> dba: sounds great, thanks 2010-07-27 21:32:45 < dba> lamby: can you have a look at tmp-sisu branch in live-manual? 2010-07-27 21:33:08 < dba> lamby: don't look at the content of the texts, they are still the old which i intend to update afterwards, 2010-07-27 21:33:20 < dba> lamby: but look at the sisu markup, if you like it. 2010-07-27 22:18:50 < Father0f1ine> There's one package in the predefined package list that I don't want installed (gksu). What is the right way of excluding this package? 2010-07-27 22:29:45 -!- tassia [~tassia@dyn-209-2-238-160.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-27 22:56:36 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2010-07-27 22:57:26 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-139-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-27 23:00:07 < BTS> live-installer 21 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-installer 2010-07-27 23:09:23 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-139-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-27 23:22:38 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live --- Day changed Wed Jul 28 2010 2010-07-28 02:24:51 -!- rhaeder1 (purple) [~quix0r@188.109.241.135] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 02:27:49 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@dslb-094-221-139-159.pools.arcor-ip.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-28 03:06:49 -!- tassia (Tássia Camões Araújo) [~tassia@dyn-209-2-238-160.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 03:40:00 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * r5d5d61b live-config/ (10 files in 10 dirs): Adding Brazilian Portuguese manpage translation from Tassia Camoes Araujo . 2010-07-28 03:40:00 < dba> tassia: commited, thanks a lot! 2010-07-28 04:00:16 < BTS> live-config 2.0~a16-1 uploaded with urgency high by Daniel Baumann (daniel) (Closes: #590407) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-28 04:01:08 < tassia> dba, you're welcome 2010-07-28 04:20:34 -!- tassia [~tassia@dyn-209-2-238-160.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-28 04:54:46 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 05:09:48 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-28 05:12:54 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-214-216.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 05:21:58 < BTS> Closed #570813 in live-installer-launcher by daniel@debian.org «support gui installer». http://bugs.debian.org/570813 2010-07-28 05:37:04 < BTS> Closed #575773 in live-installer-launcher by daniel@debian.org «live-installer-launcher crashes the system». http://bugs.debian.org/575773 2010-07-28 06:17:49 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-214-216.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-28 06:21:54 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-214-216.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 06:39:38 -!- harobed (KLEIN Stéphane) [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 06:39:49 -!- harobed [~harobed@arl57-1-82-231-110-14.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [] 2010-07-28 06:55:29 -!- plhardy (purple) [~philippe@217.108.116.29] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 06:58:24 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 07:02:50 < mammadori> SynrG: http://paste.debian.net/81534/ 2010-07-28 07:03:43 -!- [fFf]1 (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 07:05:07 < dba> mammadori: isn't that what chroot_hacks does anyway? 2010-07-28 07:07:33 < mammadori> than it is timing, just build an image with sid mdadm included to reproduce the bug 2010-07-28 07:07:47 < mammadori> s/than/then 2010-07-28 07:08:57 < dba> will have a look later in the afternoon 2010-07-28 07:46:47 < mammadori> In the morning :-) 2010-07-28 07:51:58 < dba> :) 2010-07-28 07:52:09 < dba> it's now 3:54 and we're still awake and hacking :) 2010-07-28 07:52:17 < dba> otavio is a machine! :))) 2010-07-28 07:52:37 < lindi-> installer works now with usb-hdd too? ;) 2010-07-28 08:00:53 < dba> yes 2010-07-28 08:01:03 < dba> but that i've fixed like two weeks ago 2010-07-28 08:01:08 < Kasreyn> what is this installer everyone is talking about? 2010-07-28 08:13:31 < lindi-> Kasreyn: the same old d-i but it can now be launched inside chroot afaik while you are browsing the web with iceweasel in live system :) 2010-07-28 08:14:08 < lindi-> dba: ah and web images builder is using a18-1 so it too should be fixed now? 2010-07-28 08:14:30 < lindi-> dba: btw, how about supporting the use of snapshot.debian.org to get repeatable builds? ;) 2010-07-28 08:15:50 < dba> lindi-: send patches. 2010-07-28 08:23:13 < Kasreyn> lindi-: ok cool 2010-07-28 08:24:22 < Kasreyn> i still can't get live-config.timezone=Europe/Stockholm to work 2010-07-28 08:28:48 < dba> Kasreyn: build the image and upload it somewhere 2010-07-28 08:32:53 < mammadori> dba, SynrG: for ppp issue I'm using this workaround : 'echo ppp-udeb >> config/binary_debian-installer/udeb_exclude' 2010-07-28 08:33:56 < mammadori> dba, otavio: your are strong! 2010-07-28 08:34:27 < mammadori> s/your/you ... 2010-07-28 08:35:34 < Kasreyn> dba: ok i'll build a small image 2010-07-28 08:35:50 < Kasreyn> might be broken laptop hardware or something 2010-07-28 09:30:54 < hramrach__> hello 2010-07-28 09:31:43 < hramrach__> dba, yse, these live-initramfs bugs are about timing, they depend on the order in whhich the packages are configured I would expect 2010-07-28 09:33:51 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-214-216.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] --- Log closed Wed Jul 28 09:46:25 2010 --- Log opened Wed Jul 28 09:46:27 2010 2010-07-28 09:46:27 -!- dba_ [~daniel@static.88-198-196-34.clients.your-server.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 09:46:27 -!- Irssi: #debian-live: Total of 48 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 48 normal] 2010-07-28 09:46:34 -!- Netsplit reticulum.oftc.net <-> kilo.oftc.net quits: lindi-, hfr, dba 2010-07-28 09:46:38 -!- Netsplit over, joins: hfr 2010-07-28 09:47:58 -!- Irssi: Join to #debian-live was synced in 91 secs 2010-07-28 09:49:46 < Kasreyn> dba: http://brn.ath.cx/binary.img , on my netbook /etc/timezone says "Etc/UTC" after boot. built with: lh config -d squeeze -r live.debian.net -b usb-hdd --bootappend "live-config.timezone=Europe/Stockholm" 2010-07-28 09:55:26 < SynrG> mammadori: re ppp workaround, nice. 2010-07-28 09:57:57 < lindi-_> Kasreyn: $ cat /proc/cmdline 2010-07-28 09:57:58 < lindi-_> initrd=/live/initrd.img boot=live live-config BOOT_IMAGE=/live/vmlinuz 2010-07-28 09:58:25 < lindi-_> Kasreyn: does it work if you actually pass live-config.timezone=Europe/Stockholm as a boot option manually? 2010-07-28 09:58:34 < Kasreyn> wait why is the option missing 2010-07-28 09:58:50 < Kasreyn> ok i'll try 2010-07-28 09:58:52 < lindi-_> Kasreyn: I don't know but it seems to be in your system 2010-07-28 09:59:19 < Kasreyn> it's missing! 2010-07-28 10:00:00 < Kasreyn> but my LH_BOOTAPPEND_INSTALL is ="cdrom-detect/try-usb=true live-config.timezone=Europe/Stockholm" 2010-07-28 10:00:44 < Kasreyn> why does it append it there 2010-07-28 10:00:49 < Kasreyn> and not LH_BOOTAPPEND_LIVE 2010-07-28 10:01:37 < SynrG> Kasreyn: double-check live-config man page for correct variable? i'm on the bus so don't have access (forgot to put live-config on my netbook, which i will rememdy when i get to the office :) 2010-07-28 10:02:29 < Kasreyn> ok i entered live-config.timezone=Europe/Stockholm at boot, same problem 2010-07-28 10:05:44 < SynrG> Kasreyn: my responses are delayed a bit due to composing offline so maybe you figured this out, but also check the lh_config man page. at least in the old version on my netbook i see no --bootappend option, only --bootappend-live and --bootappend-install 2010-07-28 10:07:26 < Kasreyn> yeah i noticed :) 2010-07-28 10:31:55 -!- [fFf]1 [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-28 10:58:52 -!- hramrach__ [~hramrach@9YYAAAF5M.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-28 11:05:58 -!- hramrach__ (Michal Suchanek) [~hramrach@91.198.227.49] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 11:07:39 < Kasreyn> http://brn.ath.cx/binary.img, recompiled, built with: lh config -d squeeze -r live.debian.net -b usb-hdd --bootappend-live "live-config.timezone=Europe/Stockholm", i still have the same problem though ! 2010-07-28 11:07:59 < Kasreyn> timezone is Etc/UTC 2010-07-28 11:18:29 < moldovean> maybe live-config.timezone="Europe/Stockholm" or so (my 2 cts) 2010-07-28 11:19:47 < Kasreyn> already tried i don't think it matters 2010-07-28 11:24:03 < moldovean> ls /usr/share/zoneinfo/Europe/Stockholm , exist ? 2010-07-28 11:24:24 -!- otavio [~otavio@189.114.111.55] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-28 11:24:40 < Kasreyn> yes 2010-07-28 12:14:16 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 2010-07-28 12:44:04 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 13:20:49 < mammadori> dba_: live-installer(21) fails after copying files with syslog: "main-menu[318]: INFO: Menu item 'live-installer' succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured."; is it correct? 2010-07-28 13:22:24 < mammadori> latest "in-target:" failure before that line is an apt-error about removing console-tools (transllating from italian: some packages should be removed, but remove action is disabled") 2010-07-28 14:15:23 < lamby> dba_: I like tmp-sisu. Can't get the pdf to build though; sisu-pdf blah prints a bunch of stuff but doesn't actually generate a PDF 2010-07-28 14:30:18 -!- You're now known as dba 2010-07-28 14:30:58 < dba> lamby: nice; will check in a minute.. 2010-07-28 14:31:09 < dba> mammadori: which version? how did you include it? 2010-07-28 14:51:39 < mammadori> live-installer(21) the one you uploaded in unstable, included via config/binary_debian-installer-includes/ 2010-07-28 14:52:03 < mammadori> dba: sry, binary_local-udebs/ 2010-07-28 14:52:22 < mammadori> live-installer_21_i386.udeb 2010-07-28 15:02:59 -!- hramrach__ [~hramrach@1RDAABAD5.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-28 15:15:11 -!- hramrach__ (Michal Suchanek) [~hramrach@vips.better.se] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 15:39:52 < lamby> !swirl 2010-07-28 15:39:53 < BTS> ,''`. 2010-07-28 15:39:55 < BTS> : :' : Debian GNU/Linux 2010-07-28 15:39:57 < BTS> `. `' http://www.debian.org/ 2010-07-28 15:39:58 < BTS> `- 2010-07-28 15:40:01 < lamby> Yay, colour works. 2010-07-28 15:40:39 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-28 15:40:41 < SynrG> heh 2010-07-28 15:40:52 < lamby> raphael turned on the colour support last night or something 2010-07-28 15:47:36 < unixabg> I like the color! 2010-07-28 15:50:04 < zumbi> lamby: how cool it looks! 2010-07-28 15:53:42 < PovAddict> looks kinda crap on my font... that ascii art seems to expect ' to be a diagonal line, not a straight line 2010-07-28 15:56:50 -!- plhardy [~philippe@217.108.116.29] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-28 16:56:22 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-car-139-186.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 16:56:55 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-car-139-186.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-28 17:26:35 -!- adrian15b (adrian) [~adrian@148.Red-88-1-164.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 17:28:13 < adrian15b> Ok. I have downloaded an squeeze mirror. I want to build both amd64 and i386 images (best if they are hybrid). The problem is that I boot from an unstable system (with amd64 kernel) so I was wondering if any of you had a good howto on how to build squeeze images inside a chroot directory. 2010-07-28 17:40:00 < adrian15b> Ok. I am going on my own based on the classical i386 chroot 2010-07-28 17:44:57 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 18:08:50 < dba> mammadori: sounds right ten. 2010-07-28 18:08:54 < dba> then 2010-07-28 18:09:24 < dba> mammadori: ah.. console-tools thing is a temporary issue with squeeze/sid 2010-07-28 18:19:16 < CIA-6> daniel debian * r10bbb53 live-boot/debian/control: Updating package to standards version 3.9.1. 2010-07-28 18:19:19 < CIA-6> daniel debian * re0f93a7 live-boot/Makefile: Don't fail in Makefile when there's no checkbashism. 2010-07-28 18:19:19 < CIA-6> daniel debian * r191c468 live-boot/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a16-1. 2010-07-28 18:19:19 < CIA-6> hramrach debian * r1c4dc9f live-boot/ (debian/live-boot.init scripts/live): Fix omitpids to work with readonly images. 2010-07-28 18:19:21 < CIA-6> daniel debian * r25036e4 live-boot/ (hooks/live scripts/live): Adding support for resolving DNS names from initramfs, thanks to Michal Suchanek for initial patch which this is based on (Closes: #589659). 2010-07-28 18:19:26 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * r191c468 live-boot/ (10 files in 6 dirs): Releasing debian version 2.0~a16-1. 2010-07-28 18:19:27 < CIA-6> daniel upstream * r108777b live-boot/ (12 files in 7 dirs): Adding upstream version 2.0~a16. 2010-07-28 18:19:31 < CIA-6> daniel pristine-tar * r5096817 live-boot/ (2 files): Adding pristine-tar version 2.0~a16. --- Log closed Wed Jul 28 18:24:02 2010 --- Log opened Wed Jul 28 18:24:19 2010 2010-07-28 18:24:19 -!- dba [~daniel@static.88-198-196-34.clients.your-server.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 18:24:19 -!- Irssi: #debian-live: Total of 44 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 44 normal] 2010-07-28 18:25:50 -!- Irssi: Join to #debian-live was synced in 91 secs 2010-07-28 18:29:33 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@dyn-209-2-236-60.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 18:30:26 < BTS> live-boot 2.0~a16-1 uploaded with urgency high by Daniel Baumann (daniel) (Closes: #589659) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-boot 2010-07-28 18:31:06 < BTS> Closed #589659 in live-boot by Daniel Baumann (daniel) «support dns names in netboot». http://bugs.debian.org/589659 2010-07-28 18:38:32 < adrian15b> Do I actually need to link the ld-linux.so.2 file from unstable to squeeze chroot? (Please check what I am trying to do on: http://rescatux.berlios.de/wiki/Squeeze_Chroot#You_also_need_a_link_to_your_32bit_linker_in_the_.2Flib_path) Thank you. 2010-07-28 18:50:58 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2010-07-28 18:55:02 < CIA-6> daniel * r17a0fa4 wiki-content/devel/live-installer/todo.mdwn: Updating live-installer devel todo page. 2010-07-28 18:56:15 -!- mictlan_ (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 19:07:58 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-28 19:08:13 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 19:14:00 < lamby> dba: SSH key sent. Could you create live-studio.git? 2010-07-28 19:21:23 < dba> lamby: sure.. just a minute. 2010-07-28 19:51:24 -!- unixabg [~rjent@204.184.227.254] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-28 19:52:56 < lamby> dba: git://git.chris-lamb.co.uk/debian/live-studio.git 2010-07-28 19:53:18 -!- adrian15b [~adrian@148.Red-88-1-164.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-28 19:54:58 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 19:56:23 -!- otavio_ (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@dhcp-13-166.cs.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 19:57:25 < dba> lamby: ack. 2010-07-28 19:59:25 < dba> dba: try gitosis@live.debian.net:live-studio.git again 2010-07-28 19:59:28 < dba> narf 2010-07-28 19:59:31 < dba> lamby: try gitosis@live.debian.net:live-studio.git again 2010-07-28 20:00:13 < dba> lamby: note that the repo doesn't do reject non-ff pushes, let me know when you want me to change it 2010-07-28 20:01:01 < dba> lamby: also, feel free to do stuff on gitosis@live.debian.net:gitosis-admin.git 2010-07-28 20:01:29 -!- otavio_ [~otavio@dhcp-13-166.cs.columbia.edu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-28 20:01:39 -!- otavio_ (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@dhcp-13-166.cs.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 20:03:20 -!- otavio [~otavio@dyn-209-2-236-60.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-28 20:04:03 < lamby> dba: "ERROR:gitosis.serve.main:Repository read access denied" still :) 2010-07-28 20:04:06 < lamby> But.. we can sort it later 2010-07-28 20:11:03 < dba> hrmpf 2010-07-28 20:13:52 < dba> lamby: regenerated the crap again (gitosis/.ssh/authorized_keys). if it doesn't work now, then i don't know... 2010-07-28 20:18:30 < lamby> :( 2010-07-28 20:42:43 -!- otavio_ [~otavio@dhcp-13-166.cs.columbia.edu] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-28 20:42:48 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@dhcp-13-166.cs.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 21:00:09 < BTS> live-installer 22 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) (Closes: #570811) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-installer 2010-07-28 21:00:58 < BTS> Closed #570811 in live-installer-launcher by Daniel Baumann (daniel) «doesn't work if host kernel and d-i kernel are different». http://bugs.debian.org/570811 2010-07-28 21:19:31 < cody-somerville> Has live-helper been renamed to live-build? 2010-07-28 21:38:30 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-28 21:41:11 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 21:48:02 -!- otavio [~otavio@dhcp-13-166.cs.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-28 22:21:19 -!- adrian15b (KVIrc 4.0.0 'Insomnia' http://kvirc.net/) [~kvirc@77.210.239.107] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 22:21:39 -!- adrian15b is now known as adrian15b2 2010-07-28 22:23:49 -!- felkor (felkor) [~felkor@a213-22-36-243.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 22:56:14 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2010-07-28 22:56:40 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 23:14:40 -!- rhaeder1 [~quix0r@188.109.241.135] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-28 23:25:47 -!- adrian15b2 [~kvirc@77.210.239.107] has quit [Quit: KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: 3900, sources date: 20100125, built on: 2010-02-15 08:27:55 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/] 2010-07-28 23:34:11 -!- gloopy (gloopy) [~gloopy@87.127.156.98] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 23:40:01 -!- gloopy [~gloopy@87.127.156.98] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2010-07-28 23:40:15 < dba> cody-somerville: yes 2010-07-28 23:40:26 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@dhcp-13-166.cs.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 23:43:08 < cody-somerville> dba, Would have been nice to get a heads up about that :P 2010-07-28 23:43:26 < cody-somerville> dba, I only found out because our git import started to fail 2010-07-28 23:49:07 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-28 23:52:09 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-239-2.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-28 23:58:36 -!- hramrach__ [~hramrach@vips.better.se] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-28 23:59:18 -!- hramrach__ (Michal Suchanek) [~hramrach@78.142.140.194] has joined #debian-live --- Day changed Thu Jul 29 2010 2010-07-29 00:05:40 -!- tiagovaz_ (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 00:07:38 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-239-2.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-29 00:10:27 < dba> cody-somerville: sorry about that. 2010-07-29 00:14:51 -!- cody-somerville [~cody-some@d24-36-56-180.home1.cgocable.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-29 00:32:25 -!- cody-somerville (Cody A.W. 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Buck) [~twb@nat064.cyber.com.au] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 03:41:14 < twb> Dumb question: why rename lh to live-build? 2010-07-29 03:46:57 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-238-160.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 04:09:02 < cody-somerville> yea, I'd be interested in the answer to that too 2010-07-29 04:10:04 < cody-somerville> since live-helper can build more then just live images, it might be apt (pun intended) to give it a name that is reflective of that 2010-07-29 04:10:29 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@dyn-209-2-236-60.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 04:11:37 -!- twb [~twb@nat064.cyber.com.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-29 04:12:22 < otavio> :-) 2010-07-29 04:16:36 < lamby> To annoy the ftpteam even more :) 2010-07-29 04:18:35 < dba> ha :) 2010-07-29 04:45:09 < lamby> dba: live-f1 bug fixed 2010-07-29 04:48:34 < dba> lamby: thank you ;) 2010-07-29 04:52:54 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-238-160.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-29 05:25:21 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-29 05:25:38 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 05:51:54 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@188.109.240.198] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 06:20:13 -!- otavio [~otavio@dyn-209-2-236-60.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Quit: sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep :-)] 2010-07-29 06:29:58 < mammadori> !#570811 2010-07-29 06:29:59 < BTS> mammadori: Error: "#570811" is not a valid command. 2010-07-29 06:30:04 < mammadori> !570811 2010-07-29 06:30:05 < BTS> mammadori: Error: "570811" is not a valid command. 2010-07-29 06:30:08 < mammadori> !bug 570811 2010-07-29 06:30:10 < BTS> #570811 (fixed): live-installer-launcher: «doesn't work if host kernel and d-i kernel are different» (minor) http://bugs.debian.org/570811 2010-07-29 06:30:47 < mammadori> BTS: thank to your developer 2010-07-29 06:56:10 < mammadori> dba: does your live-installer package is available anywhere in prebuilt? 2010-07-29 06:59:34 -!- plhardy (purple) [~philippe@217.108.116.29] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 06:59:59 < mammadori> dba: nevermind it already hit unstable 2010-07-29 07:20:18 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-29 07:34:58 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 08:11:29 -!- hramrach__ [~hramrach@1RDAABA75.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-29 08:18:04 -!- hramrach__ (Michal Suchanek) [~hramrach@9KCAABAB0.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 08:28:21 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-29 08:28:50 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 08:58:52 -!- [fFf]1 (purple) [~fixed@static-217-133-59-152.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 09:04:01 -!- hramrach__ [~hramrach@9KCAABAB0.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-29 09:04:46 -!- hramrach__ (Michal Suchanek) [~hramrach@04ZAADMF1.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 09:12:57 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.240.198] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-29 09:14:00 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@188.109.240.198] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 09:22:05 -!- felkor (felkor) [~felkor@a213-22-36-243.cpe.netcabo.pt] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 09:40:36 -!- adrian15b (adrian) [~adrian@83.38.47.36] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 09:58:53 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.240.198] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-29 10:10:42 -!- rhaeder (purple) [~quix0r@188.109.240.198] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 10:17:03 -!- gloopy (gloopy) [~gloopy@87.127.156.98] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 10:35:13 -!- juliank (Julian Andres Klode) [~juliank@p5B25297F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 10:43:04 < adrian15b> I think that I have managed to build my own squeeze chroot so that I can build amd64 squeeze images from my unstable system. 2010-07-29 10:44:01 < adrian15b> The question is.... should I install live-helper package isn't it? Or should I use another package in squeeze? I have read something about live-boot this is why I ask. Any differences between default lenny build and default squeeze build that I must be aware of? Thank you. 2010-07-29 10:46:26 < intrigeri> first: you don't need a TARGET chroot to build a TARGET image: one can build a squeeze image from a lenny or sid system without such tricks. 2010-07-29 10:46:58 < intrigeri> second: live-boot will be automatically installed into the image by live-helper. you only need to install live-helper on your build system. 2010-07-29 10:48:09 < adrian15b> intrigeri: first: Yesterday I was advised that unstable live-helper scripts were not stable enough but squeeze ones yes 2010-07-29 10:48:36 < adrian15b> intrigeri: I understand live-boot is not a build script but something that it is run at boot time 2010-07-29 10:48:43 < intrigeri> well, then install squeeze's live-helper on your sid system. 2010-07-29 10:49:08 < intrigeri> apt pinning is your friend. 2010-07-29 10:49:10 < adrian15b> intrigeri: Done (inside the chroot) 2010-07-29 10:49:34 < adrian15b> intrigeri: I prefer chroot rather than apt pinning ;) 2010-07-29 10:49:40 < intrigeri> ok. 2010-07-29 10:50:15 < adrian15b> intrigeri: So... If I want to build an hybrid amd64-i386 image or amd64-i486 image? Any easy way with squeeze live-helper ? 2010-07-29 10:50:17 < intrigeri> live-helper itself uses a chroot. I hope chroot'ing-inside-chroot will work. never tried this, and I don't know if it is a supported build setup at all. 2010-07-29 10:50:39 < intrigeri> afaik, l-h does not know how to build such hybrid systems. 2010-07-29 10:51:37 < adrian15b> Well, I am going to try to build an amd64 cdrom inside the chroot, to see what happens 2010-07-29 10:52:08 < intrigeri> no multiarch support that I know of. you'll have to run a i386 image (possibly with a i686 kernel + libc6) on i386 and amd64 systems, if you want to build a single, shared image. 2010-07-29 11:02:40 < adrian15b> intrigeri: But I have already some lenny i386 images and some people get "Boot error" when booting them on amd64 systems... this is why I try to build specific amd64 images so that I try to fix the problem 2010-07-29 11:03:49 < intrigeri> ok. so you're building specific amd64 images, and not "hybrid amd64-i386 image" as you were saying. 2010-07-29 11:03:54 < intrigeri> it's clear now. 2010-07-29 11:06:47 < adrian15b> intrigeri: Well, I am but I would prefer hybrid amd64-i386 images... not i386 images that happen to work in amd64 and i386 because, actually, the do not work in amd64. 2010-07-29 11:07:43 < intrigeri> you'll only know if this boot error is really caused by running a i386 images after your users have tested with the amd64 image you're building. 2010-07-29 11:09:58 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-29 11:13:17 < adrian15b> intrigeri: Well, I think that's not true... because the former i386 image was a lenny based one and the new amd64 image is squeeze based. I mean... it might be a lenny problem although lenny it is supposed to be very stable 2010-07-29 11:13:48 < adrian15b> intrigeri: The error comes just before isolinux loads... just a "Boot error" prompt. 2010-07-29 11:14:50 * adrian15b building an squeeze amd64 cdrom inside an squeeze chroot in an unstable system 2010-07-29 11:17:58 < intrigeri> well, indeed it seems like a syslinux arch issue. 2010-07-29 11:25:55 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 12:41:47 -!- hramrach__ [~hramrach@04ZAADMF1.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-29 12:51:11 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host56-30-dynamic.21-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-29 12:52:00 -!- hramrach__ (Michal Suchanek) [~hramrach@85.17.254.135] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 13:30:40 -!- felkor [~felkor@a213-22-36-243.cpe.netcabo.pt] has quit [Quit: Saindo] 2010-07-29 13:35:30 -!- fabo [~fabo@esprx02x.nokia.com] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 2010-07-29 13:35:44 -!- fabo (Fathi Boudra) [~fabo@esprx02x.nokia.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 13:40:40 -!- [fFf]1 [~fixed@static-217-133-59-152.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-29 13:51:40 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 14:31:46 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@apache.venere.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-29 14:37:22 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@static-217-133-59-152.clienti.tiscali.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 14:38:08 -!- CIA-6 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-29 15:06:47 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 15:09:04 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@static-217-133-59-152.clienti.tiscali.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-29 15:09:27 -!- CIA-6 (CIA Bot (http://cia.vc)) [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 15:39:40 -!- CIA-6 [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-29 15:42:46 < mammadori> dba: do you have an hint on how to have live-installer more verbose about why it fails? after copying files it just says "main-menu[313]: INFO: Menu item 'live-installer' succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured." 2010-07-29 15:44:21 < mammadori> this blocks the installs. I don't know (yet) how this can happen, maybe more syslog messages could give some hints. It is something regarding waypoints? 2010-07-29 15:47:59 < mammadori> dba: this is the full d-i syslog http://paste.debian.net/81745/ 2010-07-29 15:48:15 -!- plhardy [~philippe@217.108.116.29] has left #debian-live [] 2010-07-29 15:50:32 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-29 15:50:52 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 16:16:18 -!- CIA-6 (CIA Bot (http://cia.vc)) [~CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 16:33:20 -!- adrian15b [~adrian@83.38.47.36] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-29 16:41:00 -!- adrian15b (adrian) [~adrian@83.38.47.36] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 16:48:49 -!- adrian15b [~adrian@83.38.47.36] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-29 16:52:18 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-29 16:55:27 -!- adrian15b (adrian) [~adrian@83.38.47.36] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 16:57:28 -!- tuxodau (weihnachtsmann) [~tuxtux@46.115.150.90] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 16:58:38 -!- unixabg [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-29 16:59:43 -!- tuxodau [~tuxtux@46.115.150.90] has left #debian-live [Konversation terminated!] 2010-07-29 17:04:00 -!- unixabg (Richard Nelson) [~rjent@dpc674596138.direcpc.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 17:20:53 < adrian15b> I wanted to discuss a bit more about an hipothetic hybrid i386-amd64 debian live cd. What if I add a linux-image-amd64 package to an i386 build? Could I boot it from isolinux prompt with linux64 or something like it? 2010-07-29 17:21:49 < adrian15b> I do not need every application replicated in its amd64 and in its i386 form, I just want to be able to chroot into amd64 systems without too much trouble (without having to build two debian live cdroms: i386 and amd64). Thank you. 2010-07-29 17:22:11 < SynrG> yes. i presume if you just add amd64 to your "flavours" in your config, you get what you want for free 2010-07-29 17:22:30 < SynrG> --linux-flavours "686 amd64" 2010-07-29 17:22:41 < SynrG> or "486 686 amd64" 2010-07-29 17:23:12 < adrian15b> SynrG: Humm... Interesting. And then at isolinux boot, is there any convention to know what kernel am I selecting ? 2010-07-29 17:23:23 < SynrG> by default you should have a menu 2010-07-29 17:23:26 < SynrG> using syslinux 2010-07-29 17:23:40 < adrian15b> hummm 2010-07-29 17:23:49 < SynrG> i mean, --syslinux-menu is true by default, i think 2010-07-29 17:23:56 < adrian15b> Of course, I was using lenny and now ... I suppose I will see this feature on squeeze 2010-07-29 17:24:02 < SynrG> why? 2010-07-29 17:24:17 < adrian15b> SynrG: Now I am using squeeze instead of lenny 2010-07-29 17:24:18 < SynrG> syslinux had menus in lenny, didn't it? 2010-07-29 17:24:24 < SynrG> so? what version of live-helper? 2010-07-29 17:24:34 < adrian15b> SynrG: By default, it did not have. 2010-07-29 17:24:40 < SynrG> hmm 2010-07-29 17:24:49 < SynrG> well, anyway, if you're using squeeze now, yes, you should have it 2010-07-29 17:24:51 < adrian15b> SynrG: But I did not choose more than one flavour. 2010-07-29 17:25:09 < SynrG> i don't think choice of flavours has anything to do with menu 2010-07-29 17:25:21 < SynrG> at the very least you should have multiple entries for the one flavour you have 2010-07-29 17:25:32 < SynrG> live and live (safe) or something 2010-07-29 17:25:51 < adrian15b> SynrG: You mean that I won't be able to select amd64 or i386 from the isolinux menu ?! 2010-07-29 17:26:03 < SynrG> you'll be able to select them 2010-07-29 17:26:17 < SynrG> the "or something" covers my ignorance 2010-07-29 17:26:26 < SynrG> i know that there are multiple entries even for one flavour 2010-07-29 17:26:35 < SynrG> that's all i was saying 2010-07-29 17:26:47 < SynrG> and i know also that there are even more entries if you have multiple flavours 2010-07-29 17:27:19 < SynrG> it's been a long time since i did multiple flavoured images, so even if i could remember how it looked ... 2010-07-29 17:27:29 < adrian15b> So... if you are right... I need to download squeeze i386 mirror... I currently have only amd64 packages 2010-07-29 17:27:42 < SynrG> it has probably all changed in subtle ways since then (but it would be nonsense to allow multiple flavours and not give access via the menu) 2010-07-29 17:27:47 < adrian15b> That's great knowing that flavoured images do work 2010-07-29 17:28:09 < SynrG> you might try a *very* minimal image first 2010-07-29 17:28:15 < SynrG> base, no X 2010-07-29 17:28:21 < SynrG> and see how it looks 2010-07-29 17:29:17 < adrian15b> :) I do not have time that, I prefer to risk and try with X 2010-07-29 17:29:22 < adrian15b> SynrG: Let me ask you one question 2010-07-29 17:29:58 < adrian15b> As long as I am building an i386 system that has amd64 flavour... I actually do not need to boot my build system with an amd64 kernel, isn't it? 2010-07-29 17:30:05 < SynrG> really? i find having a minimal test image is a *big* time saver 2010-07-29 17:30:14 < SynrG> i can have results in minutes 2010-07-29 17:31:36 < SynrG> my understanding is that you can happily build an i386 image on an amd64 flavour system, yes. 2010-07-29 17:31:53 < adrian15b> No, you misunderstood my question 2010-07-29 17:31:53 < SynrG> dba cautioned me about one very very corner case 2010-07-29 17:32:40 < adrian15b> SynrG: I boot my machine, my build machine, you know, with an i386 kernel instead of a amd64 kernel. Can I build a debian live cd based on i386 that includes amd64 kernel flavour ? 2010-07-29 17:33:38 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dhcp-13-159.cs.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 17:36:48 < SynrG> your build machine? you need to boot with amd64 kernel to do amd64 builds 2010-07-29 17:37:02 < SynrG> but if you're doing i386 builds ... 2010-07-29 17:37:09 < adrian15b> yes, that's the question 2010-07-29 17:37:12 < SynrG> you can boot an i386 kernel, even if you include an amd64 kernel in the build 2010-07-29 17:37:15 < SynrG> is that what you meant? 2010-07-29 17:37:21 < SynrG> yes, i believe this should all just work 2010-07-29 17:37:37 < adrian15b> I am not talking about what happens when you boot the live cd 2010-07-29 17:37:51 < SynrG> so long as you're only doing i386 builds you needn't worry about booting an amd64 kernel 2010-07-29 17:37:54 < SynrG> to put it another way 2010-07-29 17:38:06 < adrian15b> Let me reformulate the question 2010-07-29 17:38:25 < adrian15b> If an i386 build includes an amd64 kernel flavour... is it still an i386 build ? 2010-07-29 17:38:30 < adrian15b> SynrG: ? 2010-07-29 17:44:59 < BTS> live-config (NEW) 2.0~a17-1 uploaded by Daniel Baumann (daniel) http://packages.qa.debian.org/live-config 2010-07-29 17:45:45 < SynrG> adrian15b: at the office, working, ... 2010-07-29 17:45:50 < SynrG> yes 2010-07-29 17:46:02 < SynrG> it is still i386 no matter how many different flavoured kernels you use 2010-07-29 17:46:20 < SynrG> kernel flavours have nothing to do with architecture 2010-07-29 17:50:21 < adrian15b> Ok. 2010-07-29 17:52:38 < adrian15b> SynrG: If those kernel flavours let me chroot into amd64 systems is ok for me. Tomorrow (today I need to download the squeeze i386 mirror) I will try to build that hybrid iso to see what happens 2010-07-29 17:54:12 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@87.13.185.191] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 17:57:16 < SynrG> k. good luck 2010-07-29 17:57:55 -!- adrian15b [~adrian@83.38.47.36] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-29 18:04:45 -!- adrian15b (adrian) [~adrian@83.38.47.36] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 18:05:58 -!- adrian15b [~adrian@83.38.47.36] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-29 18:20:22 -!- adrian15b (adrian) [~adrian@83.38.47.36] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-29 18:22:27 -!- lindi-_ [~lindi@holodeck.hut.fi] has left #debian-live [Leaving] 2010-07-29 18:38:33 -!- adrian15b [~adrian@83.38.47.36] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-29 19:26:28 -!- Kasreyn [~i@h59ec10ac.selulun.dyn.perspektivbredband.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-29 19:26:30 -!- Kasreyn (Harman Smith) 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2010-07-30 00:17:31 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * rdcef832 live-config/debian/changelog: Improving grammar in the last changelog entry. 2010-07-30 01:01:11 -!- PovAddict [~nicolas@190.189.227.89] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-30 01:08:06 -!- PythonPup [~ralph@108-82.netblk-66-60-82.yada.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 02:24:05 -!- rhaeder1 (purple) [~quix0r@188.109.249.171] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 02:28:46 -!- rhaeder [~quix0r@188.109.240.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 02:29:33 < CIA-6> daniel debian-next * re7909fd live-build/scripts/build/binary_syslinux: Making cp calls for syslinux templates recursive, thanks to Tiago Bortoletto Vaz . 2010-07-30 02:29:35 < dba> tiagovaz: ^^ 2010-07-30 02:34:34 < tiagovaz> dba: you're very nice - you always give credits, even for such stupid reports :) 2010-07-30 02:34:56 * tiagovaz going to have a coffee 2010-07-30 02:46:03 < dba> tiagovaz: bring one for otavio to ca 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of variables will be. 2010-07-30 02:50:02 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:50:04 < CIA-6> lamby * rf537576 live-studio/config/settings/defaults/middleware.py: 2010-07-30 02:50:04 < CIA-6> Use the transaction middleware. 2010-07-30 02:50:06 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:50:06 < CIA-6> lamby * refab243 live-studio/live_studio/queue/ (management/commands/queue_runner.py managers.py models.py): 2010-07-30 02:50:08 < CIA-6> Queue runner maintains state of the build (w/timestamps) 2010-07-30 02:50:10 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:50:10 < CIA-6> lamby * r2ea1d8e live-studio/live_studio/config/models.py: 2010-07-30 02:50:12 < CIA-6> Don't allow 'net' as we would have to add three extra server fields. 2010-07-30 02:50:12 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:50:14 < CIA-6> lamby * r5b18ec2 live-studio/live_studio/queue/models.py: 2010-07-30 02:50:14 < CIA-6> Set verbose_name_plural properly for queue.Entry. 2010-07-30 02:50:16 < 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(media/css/stylesheet.css templates/config/add.html): 2010-07-30 02:51:34 < CIA-6> Hide bullet points by default. 2010-07-30 02:51:36 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:51:36 < CIA-6> lamby * r9612be7 live-studio/ (5 files in 2 dirs): 2010-07-30 02:51:38 < CIA-6> Add the distro logos. 2010-07-30 02:51:40 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:51:40 < CIA-6> lamby * r06496b0 live-studio/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 2010-07-30 02:51:42 < CIA-6> Add a list of configs. 2010-07-30 02:51:42 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:51:44 < CIA-6> lamby * ra468d34 live-studio/templates/config/config.html: 2010-07-30 02:51:46 < CIA-6> Add page for config. 2010-07-30 02:51:46 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:51:48 < CIA-6> lamby * r55426fb live-studio/live_studio_www/auth/middleware.py: 2010-07-30 02:51:48 < CIA-6> Favicon is viewable when logged out. 2010-07-30 02:51:50 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:51:50 < CIA-6> lamby * r8d7e9b7 live-studio/live_studio_www/config/views.py: 2010-07-30 02:51:52 < CIA-6> Oops, we renamed the template too. 2010-07-30 02:51:54 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:51:54 < CIA-6> lamby * r55d1355 live-studio/templates/config/view.html: 2010-07-30 02:51:56 < CIA-6> Add link back to list of configurations. 2010-07-30 02:51:56 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:51:58 < CIA-6> lamby * rc39b097 live-studio/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Support editing of configurations.s 2010-07-30 02:52:04 < CIA-6> lamby * rd4c7643 live-studio/ (11 files in 2 dirs): 2010-07-30 02:52:04 < CIA-6> Add stub for adding wizard. 2010-07-30 02:52:04 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:52:04 < CIA-6> lamby * r08d5b91 live-studio/live_studio_www/ (config/views.py queue/views.py): 2010-07-30 02:52:06 < CIA-6> Use the messages framework in a few places. 2010-07-30 02:52:06 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:52:08 < CIA-6> lamby * r228ad5c 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02:52:22 < CIA-6> Oops, don't include settings object like that :3 2010-07-30 02:52:22 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:52:24 < CIA-6> lamby * r144ae60 live-studio/templates/config/view.html: 2010-07-30 02:52:24 < CIA-6> Link to the log. 2010-07-30 02:52:26 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:52:28 < CIA-6> lamby * ra593cfe live-studio/config/debian/control: 2010-07-30 02:52:28 < CIA-6> Require python-django-registration. 2010-07-30 02:52:30 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:52:30 < CIA-6> lamby * r516a34b live-studio/live_studio/build/management/commands/queue_runner.py: 2010-07-30 02:52:32 < CIA-6> Inline for the time being. 2010-07-30 02:52:32 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:52:34 < CIA-6> lamby * r3a0c4b5 live-studio/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 2010-07-30 02:52:34 < CIA-6> Add empty 'queue' app. 2010-07-30 02:52:36 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:52:36 < CIA-6> lamby * r66b01f1 live-studio/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 2010-07-30 02:52:38 < CIA-6> Add ability to enqueue configuration for building. 2010-07-30 02:52:38 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:52:40 < CIA-6> lamby * r2f5c57f live-studio/ (80 files in 24 dirs): Rename live_studio_www to live_studio.s 2010-07-30 02:52:42 < CIA-6> lamby * rcd2fb05 live-studio/templates/config/add.html: 2010-07-30 02:52:44 < CIA-6> You can now override the entire not just the child elements 2010-07-30 02:52:44 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:52:46 < CIA-6> lamby * r63e207d live-studio/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Rename 'config' view, url and template filename to 'view' 2010-07-30 02:52:46 < CIA-6> lamby * red1f332 live-studio/ (4 files in 2 dirs): 2010-07-30 02:52:48 < CIA-6> Add support for messaging. 2010-07-30 02:52:50 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:52:50 < CIA-6> lamby * r17769f8 live-studio/templates/config/add.html: 2010-07-30 02:52:52 < CIA-6> Move "step X of Y" to the bottom. 2010-07-30 02:52:52 < CIA-6> 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Lamb 2010-07-30 02:53:34 < CIA-6> lamby * redaa244 live-studio/live_studio/build/management/commands/queue_runner.py: 2010-07-30 02:53:34 < CIA-6> Copy the build results into settings.BUILD_DIR. 2010-07-30 02:53:36 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 02:53:38 < CIA-6> lamby * r21a417d live-studio/live_studio_www/data/ (__init__.py keyboard_layouts.py locales.py): 2010-07-30 02:53:38 < CIA-6> (29 lines omitted) 2010-07-30 03:00:46 < CIA-6> lamby debian * r58791eb live-build/functions/defaults.sh: Fix typo 2010-07-30 03:03:45 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@dyn-209-2-227-222.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 03:06:11 < CIA-6> lamby debian-next * r6c605c7 live-build/functions/defaults.sh: Fix typo 2010-07-30 03:10:37 < lamby> lol 2010-07-30 03:10:39 < dba> lamby for the win 2010-07-30 03:14:58 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dhcp-13-122.cs.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 03:18:18 < CIA-6> lamby debian-next * r22d9ff8 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CIA-6> lamby * r2896c11 live-studio/live_studio/build/management/commands/queue_runner.py: 2010-07-30 04:16:40 < CIA-6> Add support for daemonising queue_runner 2010-07-30 04:16:40 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 04:22:36 < CIA-6> lamby * rc42658b live-studio/config/debian/control: queue runner needs python-daemon now. 2010-07-30 04:22:38 < CIA-6> lamby * ra5c1c9d live-studio/config/debian/control: The queue runner requires live-studio. 2010-07-30 04:39:45 < CIA-6> lamby * r5999301 live-studio/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Move ./config/debian to ./debian 2010-07-30 04:39:46 < CIA-6> lamby * r4315e2c live-studio/debian/ (changelog rules): Add empty changelog and rules file 2010-07-30 04:39:47 < CIA-6> lamby * r05a137e live-studio/debian/control: Add a Standards-Version. 2010-07-30 04:39:48 < CIA-6> lamby * rea20ec1 live-studio/debian/control: Set Maintainer and Uploaders properly. 2010-07-30 04:39:52 < CIA-6> lamby * r446ce01 live-studio/debian/copyright: Add debian/copyright 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AGPLv3) 2010-07-30 04:39:56 < CIA-6> lamby * r9339a0a live-studio/debian/control: Require debhelper >= to build package. 2010-07-30 04:39:57 < CIA-6> lamby * r8dc98a9 live-studio/debian/source/format: Add debian/source/format file to appease lintian. 2010-07-30 04:39:58 < CIA-6> lamby * r5ccc526 live-studio/debian/control: Expand package descriptions to appease lintian. 2010-07-30 04:39:59 < CIA-6> lamby * rf3a3f7f live-studio/debian/control: Add ${misc:Depends} as we are using debhelper. 2010-07-30 04:49:05 < CIA-6> lamby * r829bb48 live-studio/debian/live-studio-runner.init: Add stub initscript for live-studio-runner. 2010-07-30 05:01:20 < CIA-6> lamby * r41f810c live-studio/ (debian/control debian/live-studio.install setup.py): Build and install to live-studio package. 2010-07-30 05:03:38 < CIA-6> lamby * r4971ed0 live-studio/debian/control: We don't support Python 2.4 (blows up on install) 2010-07-30 05:15:08 -!- ameise [~ant@spielwiese.hsg-kl.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 2010-07-30 05:15:25 -!- ant (Andreas Teuchert) [~ant@srv1.gnpx.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 05:15:45 -!- ant is now known as ameise 2010-07-30 05:20:56 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-238-160.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 06:02:26 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-car-137-56.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 06:19:35 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-car-137-56.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-30 06:19:38 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-car-137-56.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 06:36:44 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-car-137-56.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 06:46:03 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-car-137-56.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 06:47:45 < mammadori> dba: did you had a canche to have a look at the syslog I pasted? How you debug properly live-installer? 2010-07-30 06:56:47 < mammadori> what is live-studio ? a new name for live-magic? 2010-07-30 06:57:16 < mammadori> I saw above :-) 2010-07-30 07:10:07 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 07:11:09 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 2010-07-30 07:56:35 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@dyn-car-139-119.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 08:02:00 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-car-137-56.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 08:18:03 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 08:43:36 < lamby> dba++ 2010-07-30 08:50:35 -!- otavio [~otavio@dyn-car-139-119.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 08:53:32 < dba> heh 2010-07-30 08:53:49 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@dyn-car-139-97.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 08:54:32 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-30 08:54:44 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 09:06:03 < mammadori> dba: lh config -a i386 --distribution=sid --repositories=live.debian.net --debian-installer=live --debian-installer-distribution=dail 2010-07-30 09:07:08 < mammadori> dba: this generates a not working system with the above mentioned live-installer bug 2010-07-30 09:07:36 < mammadori> just tried on a empty directory without any /etc/deafult/live-installer custom config 2010-07-30 09:08:09 < mammadori> obviously s/dail/daily 2010-07-30 09:12:14 -!- otavio [~otavio@dyn-car-139-97.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 09:12:18 < dba> mammadori: it's not '--foo=bar' but '--foo bar'. 2010-07-30 09:13:53 < SynrG> good morning 2010-07-30 09:14:35 < SynrG> ah, thanks, gnu, for the confusing addition of a superfluous equals-sign to confuse us all :P 2010-07-30 09:14:40 < mammadori> dba: -f bar --foo=bar in getopt 2010-07-30 09:17:50 < mammadori> and probably in some earlier version the space was not admitted. like '-fbar' instead on '-f bar' 2010-07-30 09:20:29 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@dyn-car-139-97.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 09:20:31 < mammadori> dba: 'modern' getopt accepts short version with or without spaces and long with '=' or ' ', so it is not a syntax error my 'lh config' invoking 2010-07-30 09:20:56 < CIA-6> lamby * r8f6e3a2 live-studio/debian/live-studio.install: Install media to htdocs 2010-07-30 09:20:56 < CIA-6> lamby * r1a58bcc live-studio/live_studio/settings/defaults/ (apps.py middleware.py misc.py): Add optional debug_toolbar support. 2010-07-30 09:20:56 < CIA-6> lamby * r541f1b2 live-studio/live_studio/settings/defaults/apps.py: Nicer way of importing modules for apps. 2010-07-30 09:20:56 < CIA-6> lamby * r9dea607 live-studio/debian/ (control live-studio.init): Stub out gunicorn configuration 2010-07-30 09:20:57 < CIA-6> lamby * r2b35211 live-studio/ (4 files in 2 dirs): Stub out the nginx configuration. 2010-07-30 09:32:18 < dba> mammadori: ok 2010-07-30 09:33:19 < mammadori> I tried right now with installer and chroot in sid with live-installer 22, same results 2010-07-30 09:33:29 < mammadori> s/sid/squeeze 2010-07-30 09:37:24 < mammadori> --distribution=squeeze and --debian-installer-distribution=squeeze, without using live-installer 22, it works 2010-07-30 09:39:08 < CIA-6> daniel * rc48c5d5 live-studio/ (config/live-studio-nginx live_studio/settings/roles/live.py): Removing useless whitespaces. 2010-07-30 09:41:56 < CIA-6> daniel * r4cd8133 live-studio/debian/control: Adding extra fields in control. 2010-07-30 09:43:25 < CIA-6> daniel * r5dec1d8 live-studio/debian/control: Wrapping and sorting depends. 2010-07-30 10:15:31 -!- otavio [~otavio@dyn-car-139-97.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 10:27:28 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-30 10:54:42 -!- flypiper [~mb_@75-149-68-164-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 11:15:37 -!- flypiper (M Berry) [~mb_@75-149-68-164-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 11:19:11 -!- [fFf] (purple) [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 11:30:00 -!- cloud (Martin Tscholak) [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 13:15:01 < cody-somerville> lamby, what framework are you using for live-studio? 2010-07-30 13:16:01 -!- gloopy (gloopy) [~gloopy@87.127.156.98] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 13:25:09 < mammadori> cody-somerville: django 2010-07-30 13:31:07 < cody-somerville> lamby, Where did you get the idea from? 2010-07-30 13:34:17 < mammadori> suse-studio 2010-07-30 13:34:21 < mammadori> :-) 2010-07-30 13:34:40 < cody-somerville> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/M/ARMImageBuildingConsole 2010-07-30 13:36:21 < mammadori> cody-somerville: yes it seems that have a lot of points in common :-) 2010-07-30 13:36:49 < cody-somerville> we should collaborate once we open source our tool 2010-07-30 13:37:08 < mammadori> 1. The current supported backend is based on live-helper. 2. User Interface - a web interface is provided for both end-users and administrators 3.The user interface is implemented in Python as a web application using Django 2010-07-30 13:37:14 < mammadori> just by a quick read 2010-07-30 13:37:54 < mammadori> lamby is probably sleeping right now, you could catch him later I suppose 2010-07-30 13:47:11 < mammadori> cody-somerville: did you already tried live-studio? 2010-07-30 13:47:45 < cody-somerville> look at the code right now 2010-07-30 13:47:49 < cody-somerville> *looking 2010-07-30 14:07:24 < mammadori> dba: I did some git bisect on live-installer, the bug is between v16 and 17, I'll give you the exact svn revision when I'll found 2010-07-30 14:28:20 < mammadori> dba: r62344 is the first bad commit 2010-07-30 14:28:51 < mammadori> waypoint 0 final_apt_preferences 2010-07-30 14:28:55 < mammadori> interesting... 2010-07-30 14:38:45 -!- hramrach__ [~hramrach@9KCAABAFM.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has quit [autokilled: Spammer - Contact support@oftc.net for help. (2010-07-30 14:41:11)] 2010-07-30 14:39:31 -!- hramrach__ (Michal Suchanek) [~hramrach@7GDAAD2OM.tor-irc.dnsbl.oftc.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 14:58:11 < cody-somerville> We ran into the same problem 2010-07-30 14:58:49 < cody-somerville> requires a newer version of... I forget what it was now 2010-07-30 14:58:54 < cody-somerville> gotta run to get lunch, bbl 2010-07-30 15:26:26 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@151.8.106.201] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-30 15:38:12 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@128.59.13.12] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 15:39:49 < mammadori> cody-somerville: you already know a workaround for the live-installer bug I just git-bisected? 2010-07-30 15:41:16 < CIA-6> daniel * rd97a050 wiki-content/devel/live-studio.mdwn: Adding live-studio devel page. 2010-07-30 15:41:28 < dba> mammadori: morning.. looking at l-i now.. 2010-07-30 15:42:18 < mammadori> dba: good morning, how is debcamp? I have a lot on envy.... 2010-07-30 15:44:31 < mammadori> dba: my guess is that somthing, probably unrelated to live-installer, make it fail with "waypoint 0 final_apt_preferences", but I don't know what a waypoint is and I just interfere what "final_apt_preferences" could mean 2010-07-30 15:47:46 < dba> mammadori: hm, i don't really understand what bug you're experiencing in the first place. 2010-07-30 15:47:54 < dba> mammadori: what/how does it fail for you? 2010-07-30 15:48:12 < dba> because.. currently, anything regarding live-installer needs daily d-i, 2010-07-30 15:48:23 < mammadori> I tested also with daily d-i 2010-07-30 15:48:28 < dba> and daily d-i is broken in at least two other things 2010-07-30 15:48:37 < dba> (one is pppoe and the other one i don't remember offhand) 2010-07-30 15:49:03 < mammadori> pppoe can be excluded via exclude-udeb 2010-07-30 15:49:42 -!- AndrewLee [~andrew@u7.hlc.edu.tw] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 15:49:42 < dba> right; and it's a regression in the last pppoe upload of mdi; otavio is taking care of that 2010-07-30 15:50:03 < mammadori> the bug is that simply the installation does not go on after copying all the files, I included a log 2010-07-30 15:50:40 < mammadori> I could generate a screenshot if you need, give me some minutes and I can replicate the bug easily 2010-07-30 15:50:52 < dba> mammadori: that would be very nice 2010-07-30 15:51:13 < dba> mammadori: sorry.. i'm a bit in a mess right now with some loose ends on multiple things. 2010-07-30 15:51:39 < dba> i guess i missed it when you first spoke about the bug, sorry about that. 2010-07-30 15:51:44 < mammadori> dba: no problem, I would like to help, but I'm not so inside the d-i APIs 2010-07-30 15:54:08 < mammadori> [15:23] dba_: live-installer(21) fails after copying files with syslog: "main-menu[318]: INFO: Menu item 'live-installer' succeeded but requested to be left unconfigured."; is it correct? 2010-07-30 15:55:08 < mammadori> dba: this was a full log http://paste.debian.net/81745/ 2010-07-30 15:56:42 -!- AndrewLee (Andrew Lee) [~andrew@u7.hlc.edu.tw] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 15:59:22 < lamby> cody-somerville: Cool. Let me know when it is open. 2010-07-30 15:59:31 < cody-somerville> mammadori, I believ e so. 2010-07-30 16:00:36 < cody-somerville> lamby, How much experience do you have with django btw? 2010-07-30 16:02:51 < cody-somerville> mammadori, The issue for us in Ubuntu was that we needed a newer version of base-installer 2010-07-30 16:04:07 < cody-somerville> mammadori, The issue for us in Ubuntu was that we needed a newer version of base-installer 2010-07-30 16:04:10 < cody-somerville> oops 2010-07-30 16:06:56 -!- mictlan (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 16:11:05 < mammadori> cody-somerville: Thanks, I'm using daily base-installer, I'll look if there is something newer around 2010-07-30 16:28:41 < mammadori> cody-somerville: daily images are using base-installer (1.108), it seems there isn''t something newer 2010-07-30 16:31:21 < mammadori> dba: screenshot of d-i stopping: http://imagepaste.nullnetwork.net/viewimage.php?id=1176 2010-07-30 16:32:51 < mammadori> dba: full log http://paste.debian.net/81830/ 2010-07-30 16:33:40 < mammadori> dba: this was built with "lh config -a i386 --distribution=sid --repositories=live.debian.net --debian-installer=live --debian-installer-distribution=daily" 2010-07-30 16:34:56 < mammadori> and with "echo ppp-udeb >> config/binary_debian-installer/udeb_exclude" before "lh build" 2010-07-30 16:36:20 < mammadori> but it fails the same also without it.. to complete the description, you will need to select "text install" and press enter until it fails after having copied all the live system in target 2010-07-30 16:39:17 -!- cloud [~IRC@195.145.166.27] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 16:42:06 < zumbi> mammadori: are you at DC this year? 2010-07-30 16:43:26 < mammadori> :-( 2010-07-30 16:43:40 < mammadori> zumbi: no, you? 2010-07-30 16:43:50 < zumbi> yes 2010-07-30 16:44:00 < mammadori> lucky b.*d 2010-07-30 16:44:10 < zumbi> mammadori: next year, you must come 2010-07-30 16:45:29 < mammadori> It could be hard these times, I have just few weeks of holidays @work and 2 small child needing their dad, maybe if I quit my job or get divorced I can manage to have a week for DC ;-) 2010-07-30 16:46:18 < zumbi> mammadori: I understand, but next year will setup a kindergarden and we are at bosnia, near your home 2010-07-30 16:46:51 < zumbi> mammadori: you should tell your employer, that you are going to meet the cool guys that make the software he makes money out of it :) 2010-07-30 16:47:26 < zumbi> mammadori: so he pays for your trip on work time, while you can keep vacations for family time :) 2010-07-30 16:48:12 < mammadori> zumbi: I tried this approach with spain DC and I pretty succeded, then they learnt that DPL was an Amino guy and they feared I share our "secret" with him!!! 2010-07-30 16:48:24 < mammadori> I was near to be fired for internal laughs 2010-07-30 16:48:40 < zumbi> really?! He is not at Amino anymore 2010-07-30 16:48:51 < mammadori> he is @ARM now 2010-07-30 16:49:20 < zumbi> and he is not DPL anymore... tell them that we only care on free stuff, their propietary stuff is against Social Contract 2010-07-30 16:49:42 < mammadori> I retry next year, but my bosses are not so today-minded.... 2010-07-30 16:50:45 < zumbi> well, they use debian-live, emdebian, debian, ... I really do not understand their mindset 2010-07-30 16:50:47 < mammadori> And it is impossible they will pay me 2 weeks @ debconf, even if it is true that is really worth it 2010-07-30 16:50:59 < zumbi> mammadori: one week 2010-07-30 16:51:16 < mammadori> they do not know what we are using, they just know we are using some "linux" 2010-07-30 16:51:59 < zumbi> mammadori: explain them.. but anyway, nothern italians.. :) (this is getting too much off topic) 2010-07-30 16:52:26 < mammadori> my boss asked me to debug my C code with some LEDS on a IR cable... he really does not know anything after 1970's electronics 2010-07-30 16:52:53 < mammadori> yes, OT, sorry to all in the channel 2010-07-30 17:01:12 < mammadori> dba: was you able to reproduce it? 2010-07-30 17:06:21 < mammadori> dba: this is a new log with console-setup preinstalled, so it is not related to that I think: http://paste.debian.net/81834/ 2010-07-30 17:06:28 < mammadori> bbl 2010-07-30 17:20:33 < Father0f1ine> When I look at the -bootappend-live option of lh_config, I see that it gives some options to live-boot and some options to live-config. Does it give options to any other software? I see webconverger using: video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr vga=788 and I want to know which man page to find the documentation on... 2010-07-30 17:26:51 < lamby> cody-somerville: A lot of experience. Day job is Django, many patches, 3rd-party applications, etc. 2010-07-30 17:27:17 < cody-somerville> lamby, Ah. My next question was if you were employed or not. 2010-07-30 17:27:42 -!- mammadori_ (Marco Amadori) [~marco@ip-87-238-20-119.static.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 17:28:20 < mammadori_> dba: In case you wrote something to me beween bbl and this line, please repeat it 2010-07-30 17:32:47 < lamby> cody-somerville: For me, Django/web stuff is kinda "too easy" so I do other stuff as well. 2010-07-30 17:38:10 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@128.59.13.12] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 2010-07-30 17:38:29 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@128.59.13.12] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 17:39:07 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@128.59.13.12] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 17:46:02 -!- jstein (Jonas Stein) [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-248-71.netcologne.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 17:54:10 < cody-somerville> lamby, Do you use django-piston for restful API? And do you have a solution for object-based permissions? 2010-07-30 17:56:08 < lamby> I have used Piston in the past but not adding it to -studio until there is demand for a client. 2010-07-30 17:56:47 < lamby> re. object-based permissions, I have used random things in the past but the whole thing is usually massively overkill and enterprise for my liking 2010-07-30 17:57:26 -!- [fFf] (Fabrizio) [~fixed@host69-49-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 18:32:53 < CIA-6> lamby * r581fcdd live-studio/live_studio/settings/__init__.py: No build management command. 2010-07-30 18:33:04 < CIA-6> lamby * rb8073fb live-studio/debian/rules: Use the 'live' role when generating debs. 2010-07-30 18:46:58 < CIA-6> lamby * r9ce3319 live-studio/debian/control: Don't need memcache yet. 2010-07-30 18:52:11 < CIA-6> lamby * rb43b949 live-studio/debian/live-studio.init: 2010-07-30 18:52:11 < CIA-6> gunicorn won't create the parent 'live-studio' directory 2010-07-30 18:52:11 < CIA-6> ..and I'm too lazy to. 2010-07-30 19:02:53 < CIA-6> lamby * r7241869 live-studio/debian/live-studio.init: 2 workers are plenty 2010-07-30 19:10:04 < CIA-6> tiago debian * r60ffdee live-build/templates/syslinux/en/f3.txt.install: Adding curly braces to LH_MEDIA in syslinux template. 2010-07-30 19:17:57 < dba> tiagovaz: you might want to fix the LH_MEDIA thing also in the other translations, not just the english one. 2010-07-30 19:29:41 -!- gloopy [~gloopy@87.127.156.98] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-30 19:35:03 < CIA-6> lamby * r26c23a4 live-studio/ (config/index.html debian/live-studio-runner.install): Install a blank index.html to /var/lib/live-studio so dir is created and we don't accidentally leak images 2010-07-30 19:35:04 < CIA-6> lamby * r0f65602 live-studio/debian/live-studio.install: Install templates to under /usr/share/live-studio 2010-07-30 19:35:06 < CIA-6> lamby * r2c5b1a8 live-studio/live_studio/settings/ (defaults/dirs.py roles/local.py): 2010-07-30 19:35:06 < CIA-6> Fix paths for builds, media and templates in the live role. 2010-07-30 19:35:06 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 19:35:08 < CIA-6> lamby * raf742ce live-studio/templates/ (404.html 500.html): Add stub 404 and 500 error pages. 2010-07-30 19:38:06 < CIA-6> lamby * r6cb1654 live-studio/debian/control: We need debhelper (>= 7.0.50~) due to using override_* 2010-07-30 19:38:18 < CIA-6> lamby * r68b18bc live-studio/debian/live-studio.init: Fixup LSB headers on live-studio.init to appease lintian. 2010-07-30 19:40:06 -!- d0rt (dort) [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 19:49:51 -!- d0rt [~ni@its-vlan1.simons-rock.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 19:53:17 < CIA-6> lamby * r1e39ecd live-studio/config/live-studio-nginx: Serve media from nginx. 2010-07-30 19:53:18 < CIA-6> lamby * r2daa5b7 live-studio/live_studio/ (auth/middleware.py settings/defaults/middleware.py): Add SetRemoteAddrFromForwardedFor as we are using a reverse proxy 2010-07-30 19:53:19 < CIA-6> lamby * r47bbabb live-studio/live_studio/settings/ (defaults/templates.py roles/local.py): Use the cached template loader on the live site. 2010-07-30 19:53:27 < CIA-6> lamby * r4a8fa05 live-studio/live_studio/settings/defaults/ (misc.py templates.py): Move TEMPLATE_LOADERS to settings.defaults.templates 2010-07-30 20:16:25 < mikap> dba: any ETA for #587557? (i just run into it on fresh installation) 2010-07-30 20:20:31 < mammadori_> !bug 587557 2010-07-30 20:20:35 < BTS> #587557: plymouth: «problems installing plymouth» http://bugs.debian.org/587557 2010-07-30 20:24:46 < mikap> mammadori_: nice :) 2010-07-30 20:25:48 < dba> mikap: after debconf; otherwise patches welcome. 2010-07-30 20:27:15 < mikap> dba: hm ok, i tend to raise severity to RC in the meanwhile 2010-07-30 20:36:43 < mikap> have a fix, just finish testing it 2010-07-30 20:37:43 -!- jstein_ (Jonas Stein) [~jstein@xdsl-81-173-170-187.netcologne.de] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 20:39:05 -!- jstein [~jstein@xdsl-213-196-248-71.netcologne.de] has quit [Read error: No route to host] 2010-07-30 20:56:54 < mikap> dba: http://grml.org/patches/0001-plymouth.hook-copy-etc-plymouth-plymouthd.conf-only-.patch - package installs fine, verified that the config results in generated initramfs 2010-07-30 20:57:28 < mikap> dba: do you want me to upload a NMU? 2010-07-30 20:58:22 < dba> did you test it? 2010-07-30 20:58:47 < dba> if so, i'll apply and upload in 5min. 2010-07-30 20:59:02 < mikap> dba: installation works fine, i can test booting it as well, give me a sec 2010-07-30 21:00:07 < dba> ok 2010-07-30 21:06:35 < CIA-6> lamby * r0ba0285 live-studio/ (debian/rules live_studio/settings/role.py): Need this under pysupport for some reason. 2010-07-30 21:06:35 < CIA-6> lamby * ra50c5b6 live-studio/config/live-studio-nginx: Serve the admin media too. 2010-07-30 21:11:01 < CIA-6> lamby * rc8dc773 live-studio/ (debian/rules live_studio/settings/role.py): 2010-07-30 21:11:01 < CIA-6> Revert "Need this under pysupport for some reason." 2010-07-30 21:11:01 < CIA-6> This reverts commit 0ba0285babaa74c7b5aa075d0c5a2e56a7a83273. 2010-07-30 21:11:02 < CIA-6> lamby * r3fdce69 live-studio/templates/config/view.html: 2010-07-30 21:11:02 < CIA-6> Don't show build table if we don't have any builds. 2010-07-30 21:11:02 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 21:11:04 < CIA-6> lamby * ree32cd5 live-studio/live_studio/settings/defaults/apps.py: Don't let debug_toolbar intercept requests. 2010-07-30 21:15:05 < CIA-6> lamby * r7cf6d27 live-studio/debian/live-studio-runner.init: Set location of daemon. 2010-07-30 21:15:05 < CIA-6> lamby * re4168d8 live-studio/config/live-studio-nginx: Use IP address until debian.net zone catches up. 2010-07-30 21:23:01 -!- cuba33ci_ (cuba33ci) [~cuba33ci@111-240-213-145.dynamic.hinet.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 21:24:49 < CIA-6> lamby * r1c56415 live-studio/debian/control: Funnily enough, a Debian Live builder should Depend on live-build 2010-07-30 21:24:49 -!- cuba33ci [~cuba33ci@111-251-148-150.dynamic.hinet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 21:24:50 -!- otavio [~otavio@128.59.13.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 21:24:51 < CIA-6> lamby * r69a8503 live-studio/debian/live-studio-runner.init: We don't execute manage.py manually; use /usr/bin/python 2010-07-30 21:24:52 < CIA-6> lamby * r69e756e live-studio/debian/live-studio-runner.init: pysupport installs the daemon non-executable; no real need to fix that 2010-07-30 21:28:15 < mikap> dba: splash starts up 2010-07-30 21:28:34 < mammadori_> mikap: do you use live-installer? 2010-07-30 21:29:17 < mikap> mammadori_: no[t yet], why are you asking? 2010-07-30 21:29:47 < unixabg> lamby, how if I want to install live-studio what steps do I take to try it out? 2010-07-30 21:29:51 < mikap> actually i'd like to know how live-installer is supposed to be used those days, do i need specific build options, right? 2010-07-30 21:31:54 < lamby> unixabg: First, run `live_studio/manage.py syncdb`. Then in one terminal run `live_studio/manage.py runserver` and in another run `live_studio/manage.py queue_runner`. 2010-07-30 21:32:02 < mammadori_> mikap: yes, like "--debian-installer=live --debian-installer-distribution=daily --debian-installer-gui=true" 2010-07-30 21:32:09 < mikap> mammadori_: thanks! 2010-07-30 21:32:24 < mikap> mammadori_: are you at DebCamp/DebConf btw? 2010-07-30 21:32:27 < mammadori_> mikap: you are welcome 2010-07-30 21:32:31 < mammadori_> no :-( 2010-07-30 21:32:43 < unixabg> lamby, do I run that as root or just any user? 2010-07-30 21:32:43 < mammadori_> I will miss this DC too 2010-07-30 21:32:44 < mikap> mammadori_: that's sad :( next year at DC11 in bosnia? :) 2010-07-30 21:32:53 < mammadori_> mikap: I hope so 2010-07-30 21:32:59 < mikap> mammadori_: alright :) 2010-07-30 21:33:31 < lamby> unixabg: Run `runserver` as anybody, run `queue_runner` as root 2010-07-30 21:34:04 < mammadori_> mikap: seems that the latest cool thing is live-studio, I'm looking at it and it seems really interesting 2010-07-30 21:34:09 < lamby> unixabg: You will need postgresql (or you can modify some settings and use sqlite or mysql or whatever you like) 2010-07-30 21:34:28 < mikap> mammadori_: jepp, definitely 2010-07-30 21:34:59 < unixabg> lamby, ok. Is it setup somewhere public where I can see and not have to install? 2010-07-30 21:35:10 < lamby> unixabg: I'm setting it up right now on a server 2010-07-30 21:35:46 < mammadori_> lamby: did you already published a public live-studio online demo? 2010-07-30 21:36:01 < mikap> lamby: i'd like to present your work in my talk about live systems, would be great if could capture some screenshots ;) 2010-07-30 21:36:33 < mammadori_> mikap: give me the url of the video of it asap, please! :-) 2010-07-30 21:36:44 < mikap> mammadori_: hehe 2010-07-30 21:36:54 < mammadori_> already on pentabarf? 2010-07-30 21:37:03 < lamby> I will let this channel know when it is setup. 2010-07-30 21:37:12 < unixabg> lamby, thank you. I want to see your work and I can read through the code but I am not familiar with django so it is hard for me to invision without installing. 2010-07-30 21:37:19 < mammadori_> lamby: great! 2010-07-30 21:37:23 < mikap> mammadori_: sure -> http://penta.debconf.org/dc10_schedule/events/547.en.html 2010-07-30 21:38:20 < mammadori_> mikap: do you already have some papers or slide available? 2010-07-30 21:38:34 < CIA-6> lamby * rea41401 live-studio/config/live-studio-nginx: Use alias instead of root as it's less weird. 2010-07-30 21:38:37 < CIA-6> lamby * r4ac25f5 live-studio/ (config/index.html debian/live-studio-runner.install): 2010-07-30 21:38:37 < CIA-6> Revert "Install a blank index.html to /var/lib/live-studio so dir is created and we don't accidentally leak images" 2010-07-30 21:38:37 < CIA-6> This reverts commit 26c23a49bbf3e7ebde4139d846707938c169fbed. 2010-07-30 21:38:37 < CIA-6> lamby * r6c306af live-studio/config/live-studio-nginx: Expose builds via nginx. 2010-07-30 21:38:38 < CIA-6> lamby * r52eb20a live-studio/live_studio/build/management/commands/queue_runner.py: Actually try and build an image.. 2010-07-30 21:40:35 < mikap> mammadori_: no paper, just slides but they are not finished and won't be usefull at all without talking (trust me :)) 2010-07-30 21:41:15 < mikap> mammadori_: but stream should be available then ;) ok, up for dinner... 2010-07-30 21:42:09 < mammadori_> gnite there :-) 2010-07-30 21:59:29 -!- jstein_ [~jstein@xdsl-81-173-170-187.netcologne.de] has quit [Quit: leaving] 2010-07-30 23:10:17 < CIA-6> lamby * r5a5b4ba live-studio/debian/rules: Specify 'full' path on the live site due to some funny import issue. 2010-07-30 23:12:51 -!- mictlan [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-30 23:14:21 < CIA-6> lamby * r9406e2c live-studio/debian/rules: Roles are under settings, not live_studio 2010-07-30 23:38:09 -!- mictlan_ (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-30 23:44:18 < CIA-6> lamby * rfac82d3 live-studio/live_studio/build/management/commands/queue_runner.py: Write a real pidfile to the location specified so that stop initscript action works 2010-07-30 23:44:46 < CIA-6> lamby * r95a5f8e live-studio/live_studio/build/management/commands/queue_runner.py: No need for with_statement now 2010-07-30 23:50:40 -!- [fFf] [~fixed@host69-49-dynamic.181-80-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 2010-07-30 23:55:52 < CIA-6> lamby * rd6bd845 live-studio/live_studio/ (3 files in 3 dirs): 2010-07-30 23:55:52 < CIA-6> Ensure timezones are stored correctly 2010-07-30 23:55:52 < CIA-6> The postgres datetime fields are timezone aware so we need to 2010-07-30 23:55:52 < CIA-6> pass them local times (eg. datetime.datetime.now) or they will be 2010-07-30 23:55:52 < CIA-6> offset again when you pull them back out again. This doesn't 2010-07-30 23:55:52 < CIA-6> happen with the Django MySQL backend as the fields have no magic. 2010-07-30 23:55:54 < CIA-6> Signed-off-by: Chris Lamb 2010-07-30 23:55:54 < CIA-6> lamby * r25873fc live-studio/live_studio/config/models.py: --debian-installer accepts {true,false} not {yes,no} --- Day changed Sat Jul 31 2010 2010-07-31 00:00:48 < CIA-6> lamby * r2e27599 live-studio/live_studio/config/models.py: Need to increase the size of the field too. 2010-07-31 00:02:08 < CIA-6> lamby * r5a07b55 live-studio/templates/config/view.html: Don't bother showing just one bit of the configuration 2010-07-31 00:14:33 < CIA-6> lamby * rfae68ee live-studio/ (2 files in 2 dirs): python-daemon is really weird and I can't get it to stop failing horribly 2010-07-31 00:18:53 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-31 00:19:16 -!- mictlan_ (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-31 00:51:05 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@128.59.13.12] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-31 00:58:33 < CIA-6> lamby * r330e539 live-studio/live_studio/build/ (management/commands/queue_runner.py models.py): Give the images a nicer suffix. 2010-07-31 00:58:34 < CIA-6> lamby * r455653b live-studio/live_studio/build/management/commands/queue_runner.py: Print the exception first in case update(..) fails 2010-07-31 00:58:35 < CIA-6> lamby * r05714d8 live-studio/live_studio/build/management/commands/queue_runner.py: Also set attributes on the local object. 2010-07-31 00:58:35 < CIA-6> lamby * r7c824ca live-studio/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Send emails when build completes 2010-07-31 00:59:23 < CIA-6> lamby * r0260d30 live-studio/live_studio/settings/defaults/misc.py: Use a slighly saner From: header 2010-07-31 01:03:42 < dba> mikap: re plymouth: will upload in a couple of minutes. 2010-07-31 01:04:28 -!- tiagovaz (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-31 01:04:38 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-31 01:10:10 -!- mictlan_ (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-31 01:15:16 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 2010-07-31 01:20:46 -!- mictlan_ (kb) [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-31 01:21:16 < CIA-6> tiago debian * r7ca21cd live-build/templates/syslinux/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Fixing all LH_MEDIA related stuff in syslinux templates. 2010-07-31 01:33:05 -!- otavio (Otavio Salvador ) [~otavio@dyn-car-139-97.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-31 02:00:51 -!- krishna (AZ4306 | HsOlbiY6 | Azureus IRC Plugin 2.10) [~HsOlbiY6@71-90-231-061.dhcp.gnvl.sc.charter.com] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-31 02:26:47 < CIA-6> lamby * r9112c3f live-studio/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Log output of the runner so we can find bugs. 2010-07-31 02:50:16 < CIA-6> lamby * ra10e22b live-studio/live_studio/build/management/commands/queue_runner.py: Make the queue runner more resilient and also a bit tidier 2010-07-31 02:50:17 < CIA-6> lamby * ra816e00 live-studio/live_studio/build/management/commands/queue_runner.py: Update the database last. 2010-07-31 02:52:50 < unixabg> lamby, I know you are working on putting up a site for live-studio, do you have an eta? 2010-07-31 02:55:34 < lamby> unixabg: Not really. Waiting on DNS to work now, otherwise you can't register without manual poking etc. 2010-07-31 02:56:27 -!- tiagovaz_ (Tiago Bortoletto Vaz) [~tiago@dyn-car-139-97.dyn.columbia.edu] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-31 02:57:22 < unixabg> lamby, ok. What will be the dns name to try? 2010-07-31 02:57:38 < unixabg> lamby, also how is debconf? 2010-07-31 02:57:59 < dba> {live-,studio}.d.n 2010-07-31 02:58:11 < unixabg> dba, :) 2010-07-31 02:58:12 < dba> aeh 2010-07-31 02:58:14 -!- tiagovaz [~tiago@dyn-209-2-228-146.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-31 02:58:55 < dba> {live-,}studio.d.n i ment. 2010-07-31 02:59:50 < unixabg> dba, does that mean live-studio.d.n 2010-07-31 03:05:40 -!- mictlan_ [~mictlan@189.188.154.23] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-31 03:07:17 -!- otavio [~otavio@dyn-car-139-97.dyn.columbia.edu] has quit [Quit: mv ~/ /dev/fun] 2010-07-31 04:13:11 -!- flypiper [~mb_@75-149-68-164-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 480 seconds] 2010-07-31 04:13:22 -!- flypiper (M Berry) [~mb_@75-149-68-164-Illinois.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-31 04:40:10 -!- pbn_ (Pierre Bauduin) [pbn@k-lined.info] has joined #debian-live 2010-07-31 04:42:02 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